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Former Lancastrian Sep 10th 2014 12:32 pm

Re: Scottish Independence and PR
 
For any BE member in Canada who is allowed to vote and wants to vote YES then **** Off back to Scotland and why are you in Canada if the country is that great you wish to vote yes (those on a 2 month visit excluded) :lol:

magnumpi Sep 10th 2014 12:42 pm

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Wonder if England will pay contractors to repair the wall after the vote goes Yes

Former Lancastrian Sep 10th 2014 12:44 pm

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11400473)
Wonder if England will pay contractors to repair the wall after the vote goes Yes

Make it higher and stronger to keep those skirt wearing heathens out of England :lol:

mdizzle Sep 11th 2014 12:09 am

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Originally Posted by gary123 (Post 11400441)
Being a true English man , i think is a pity the English can't vote as well, as it would be a "yes " land slide ( only joking i love Kenny Daglish)..

Scottish independence: 60% of English and Welsh want Scots to stay in UK | Politics | The Observer

mdizzle Sep 11th 2014 12:16 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11400470)
For any BE member in Canada who is allowed to vote and wants to vote YES then **** Off back to Scotland and why are you in Canada if the country is that great you wish to vote yes (those on a 2 month visit excluded) :lol:

I'm hoping for a Yes vote just in order to read the tear-stained, mewling response from posters such as yourself.

The seethe is almost tangible.

Former Lancastrian Sep 11th 2014 5:33 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 11401004)
I'm hoping for a Yes vote just in order to read the tear-stained, mewling response from posters such as yourself.

The seethe is almost tangible.

What is this seethe?
I have said all along I have no problem with the vote. If they vote Yes then good for them and if they vote No then Im ok with that. Im in Canada and the vote does not affect me. What does piss me off is all these voters who could vote Yes or want to vote Yes but are not actually living in Scotland?
So will these people all over the world suddenly move back if its a Yes vote?
Why did they move away from Scotland in the 1st place?
I have no problem with an independent Scotland and if the country is going to be that great then I guess all the expats will move back.
I expect to see thousands posting into a new thread entitled Moving back to Scotland as we voted Yes.
Is this tear stained mewling response good enough?

mdizzle Sep 12th 2014 4:18 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11401457)
What is this seethe?
I have said all along I have no problem with the vote. If they vote Yes then good for them and if they vote No then Im ok with that. Im in Canada and the vote does not affect me. What does piss me off is all these voters who could vote Yes or want to vote Yes but are not actually living in Scotland?
So will these people all over the world suddenly move back if its a Yes vote?
Why did they move away from Scotland in the 1st place?
I have no problem with an independent Scotland and if the country is going to be that great then I guess all the expats will move back.
I expect to see thousands posting into a new thread entitled Moving back to Scotland as we voted Yes.
Is this tear stained mewling response good enough?

Why would it piss you off that people not living in Scotland would want to vote yes? Please read up on who is actually allowed to vote in the referendum - it might reduce your stress levels a bit.

Personally I have a vote because I live in Scotland and occasionally have to work in Alberta. I have a Canadian gf and may move to Canada permanently one day. Personal circumstances dictate where an individual resides and for the most part it has nothing to do with love for their country. I just want what I think is best for the future if Scotland and future generations (the majority of my friends and family included). I actually think it will be good for the rest of the UK as well and hopefully encourage some reform.

Former Lancastrian Sep 12th 2014 6:16 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 11402625)
Why would it piss you off that people not living in Scotland would want to vote yes? Please read up on who is actually allowed to vote in the referendum - it might reduce your stress levels a bit.

Personally I have a vote because I live in Scotland and occasionally have to work in Alberta. I have a Canadian gf and may move to Canada permanently one day. Personal circumstances dictate where an individual resides and for the most part it has nothing to do with love for their country. I just want what I think is best for the future if Scotland and future generations (the majority of my friends and family included). I actually think it will be good for the rest of the UK as well and hopefully encourage some reform.

I have read up who can and cannot vote as previously posted in another thread.
I find it very amusing or somewhat strange that the following CAN vote

•Citizens of the Republic of Ireland and other EU countries resident in Scotland.

So going by that you could have a bunch of Irish, German, Spanish, Polish etc etc voting in a referendum. So if it ends up being a very close NO vote will the Scottish Nationalists be bitching about all these non Scottish voters who were allowed to vote and voted NO. Will they ask that their votes be discounted as they are not Scottish.
With a week to go politicians are now ramping up the Stay in the UK and they are being looked at with some distrust by people in England wondering if they the Scottish voters will be given special considerations that are not available to those in England in an effort to keep them in the UK.
So if all these expats (not in your case) think its good for Scotland and would vote Yes if they could then why wouldnt they move back?
Surely they would find it easy to secure employment, buy a house etc etc.

magnumpi Sep 12th 2014 6:22 am

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I would vote to get rid of Scotland and so would my wife.

AlliF Sep 12th 2014 6:50 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11402769)
I would vote to get rid of Scotland and so would my wife.

Hmm, remind me why anyone in Scotland would give a flying monkeys what you (or your wife whoever she is) would vote? :huh:
Nah, on second thoughts actually don't bother I really, really couldn't care less.

magnumpi Sep 12th 2014 7:09 am

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Originally Posted by scotdownunder (Post 11402801)
Hmm, remind me why anyone in Scotland would give a flying monkeys what you (or your wife whoever she is) would vote? :huh:
Nah, on second thoughts actually don't bother I really, really couldn't care less.

Lol, calm down pal ;)

I can't vote, so chill !!

mdizzle Sep 12th 2014 9:55 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11402763)
I have read up who can and cannot vote as previously posted in another thread.
I find it very amusing or somewhat strange that the following CAN vote

•Citizens of the Republic of Ireland and other EU countries resident in Scotland.

So going by that you could have a bunch of Irish, German, Spanish, Polish etc etc voting in a referendum. So if it ends up being a very close NO vote will the Scottish Nationalists be bitching about all these non Scottish voters who were allowed to vote and voted NO. Will they ask that their votes be discounted as they are not Scottish.
With a week to go politicians are now ramping up the Stay in the UK and they are being looked at with some distrust by people in England wondering if they the Scottish voters will be given special considerations that are not available to those in England in an effort to keep them in the UK.
So if all these expats (not in your case) think its good for Scotland and would vote Yes if they could then why wouldnt they move back?
Surely they would find it easy to secure employment, buy a house etc etc.

I think it's fair that people who are resident in a country should have a vote in its future. Those that have chosen to leave should not.

I can't answer a question on the mindset of expat Scots. They are probably happy with their lives abroad. They don't get a say in the future of Scotland.

mdizzle Sep 12th 2014 10:02 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11402769)
I would vote to get rid of Scotland and so would my wife.

Polls suggest you're in a minority of English people then as shown by the link above.

I would vote to get rid of England, Wales and NI. NI perhaps the most. It's unfortunate for you that I actually get a say in the matter and you don't.

magnumpi Sep 12th 2014 10:10 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 11402998)
Polls suggest you're in a minority of English people then as shown by the link above.

I would vote to get rid of England, Wales and NI. NI perhaps the most. It's unfortunate for you that I actually get a say in the matter and you don't.

Vote yes for me then please :@)

Former Lancastrian Sep 12th 2014 11:12 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 11402994)
I think it's fair that people who are resident in a country should have a vote in its future. Those that have chosen to leave should not.

I can't answer a question on the mindset of expat Scots. They are probably happy with their lives abroad. They don't get a say in the future of Scotland.

With the UK & EU being unique as opposed to other countries its interesting to see if the non Scottish EU or Irish citizens living in Scotland will choose to vote or say its not really our fight and won't vote. To vote in a Federal and most Provincial/Territorial elections in Canada you must be a citizen of that country even if living in Canada as a PR for umpteen years.

Although a Daily Mail article some interesting figures if true
Scottish-born voters are evenly split, 48% to 48%, on the referendum
But 477k voters born in England are strongly pro-union, shows YouGov poll
But 750,000 Scots living south of the border have been denied a vote
Two thirds of English, Welsh and Northern Irish in Scotland set to vote 'No'
More than half of foreigners living in Scotland plan to against separation

So is the future going to be decided by foreigners living in Scotland as opposed to those being born there?


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