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BristolUK Oct 8th 2024 4:19 am

Scones - jam and cream
 
This Devon cream always worked well enough

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...94c7c0e073.png
But not available everywhere and pretty costly. Getting on for $13 for 170g.
Clotted cream is advertised on Amazon but all attempts to get some have failed to arrive. Sniffer dogs I expect. :lol:

Has anyone tried Puck?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...949dd790b0.jpg

Found it by accident in the cream cheese section.
Although there is a cheese version, this isn't it. It's just labelled as creamy dairy spread and no cheese listed in ingredients.
Similar price but 500g so it works out a third of the Devon one.

It's obviously not as good - especially tasting it on its own, so don't do that - but I tried it with jam on a croissant and it wasn't bad. But if it's ages since you had a 'cream tea' you might fancy it.

Funnily enough I found it while looking for cream cheese to go with smoked salmon for croissants and I think it went better with that than the usual cream cheese. So even if you're not keen, all is not lost.
Unless you don't like smoked salmon and cream cheese in a croissant. :lol:

I just got my SD to make some scones so I can try it with that. :thumbup:

And it works quite well.

christmasoompa Oct 8th 2024 4:33 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 
Just make your own! Dead easy.

Heavy cream, in an oven proof dish (with as much surface area as possible), put it in oven overnight on low temperature (80-85c ideally). Leave for 8-12 hours then leave to cool completely. Then skim the clotted cream off the top. *chefs kiss*


BristolUK Oct 8th 2024 9:18 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 13279418)
Just make your own! Dead easy.

Heavy cream, in an oven proof dish (with as much surface area as possible), put it in oven overnight on low temperature (80-85c ideally). Leave for 8-12 hours then leave to cool completely. Then skim the clotted cream off the top. *chefs kiss*

I've seen a few recipes over the years. It always seemed a bit fiddly to me and a bit wasteful. I have a feeling our previous oven didn't go low enough but our current one does.

But I just saw a video of someone doing it and he said he was going to make scones with the runnier stuff left behind.

christmasoompa Oct 8th 2024 9:44 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13279489)
I've seen a few recipes over the years. It always seemed a bit fiddly to me and a bit wasteful. I have a feeling our previous oven didn't go low enough but our current one does.

But I just saw a video of someone doing it and he said he was going to make scones with the runnier stuff left behind.

Yes, absolutely, you can use the remainder in place of buttermilk for the scones (or anything else really). Nothing wasted! It's honestly so easy.

BristolUK Oct 8th 2024 12:28 pm

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 13279490)
Yes, absolutely, you can use the remainder in place of buttermilk for the scones (or anything else really). Nothing wasted! It's honestly so easy.

Further reading says avoid UHT. Whipping cream here all says it's UHT.

Maybe it works not as well, but good enough?

BristolUK Oct 9th 2024 5:15 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 
Whipping cream is in the oven.
:fingerscrossed:

Chocolate eclair Oct 9th 2024 5:38 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13279645)
Whipping cream is in the oven.
:fingerscrossed:

Bon chance!

BristolUK Oct 9th 2024 6:10 am

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Originally Posted by Chocolate eclair (Post 13279651)
Bon chance!

I thought you were going to tell me uht wouldn't work...after I'd already bunged it in. :lol:

christmasoompa Oct 9th 2024 6:52 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13279645)
Whipping cream is in the oven.
:fingerscrossed:

Ooh exciting! Fingers crossed.

BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 10th 2024 12:11 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13279645)
Whipping cream is in the oven.
:fingerscrossed:

So, what's the verdict?

I'm on the edge of my seat here, I've always whipped heavy cream (to within a cm of its life, obvs) for scones and suchlike.

Is the oven faff worth the effort?

Chocolate eclair Oct 10th 2024 12:38 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 13279759)
So, what's the verdict?

I'm on the edge of my seat here, I've always whipped heavy cream (to within a cm of its life, obvs) for scones and suchlike.

Is the oven faff worth the effort?

+1

I'm in the happy position of being able to buy clotted cream whenever I want. Unfortunately I've been making something of a habit of it in the past 6 months and the hips and thighs are bearing the brunt of it!
Of the 19Kg I lost very rapidly last year, I've now put on nearly 8Kg. That's good because I looked so gaunt but it now has to stop :nod:.

BristolUK Oct 10th 2024 3:47 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 13279759)
So, what's the verdict?

I'm on the edge of my seat here, I've always whipped heavy cream (to within a cm of its life, obvs) for scones and suchlike.

It looks good. One litre of 35% whipping cream ($6.88/£3.83) has produced enough to fill more than two of those Devon Double Cream mini bottles (170g size that costs close to $13).
On price basis it's an absolute bargain.

Is the oven faff worth the effort?
Christmasoompa is absolutely right. Probably the biggest part is not having access to the oven but if you have a dual oven you're likely okay.

So I just poured one litre into a round 9" pyrex bowl and put it in the oven on 180f at 2.00pm yesterday.
SD took it out around 11.30pm and then in the fridge at 1.00am.
About 11.30am, she lifted 'the top' and poured off the stuff underneath like the guy in the video. I tasted it, like the guy in the video did and it seemed like the real deal. It's probably been over 30 years since I last had some.

She decided to do an extra bit - strain the liquid through some cheesecloth, salvaging additional cream. The pour off wasn't as runny as in the video and this may be where the UHT issue is involved - possibly it doesn't produce as much clotted cream as non UHT cream would, without the extra step. But the extra amount was negligible anyway.
The reject cream - which she will use to make more scones looks like something between 10% and 18%

The scones are waiting but they can wait a bit longer. I went shopping this morning and for the first time in years I was able to get run of the mill raspberry jam doughnuts. I bought up the whole display. :lol:


BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 10th 2024 6:09 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13279785)
It looks good. One litre of 35% whipping cream ($6.88/£3.83) has produced enough to fill more than two of those Devon Double Cream mini bottles (170g size that costs close to $13).
On price basis it's an absolute bargain.

Christmasoompa is absolutely right. Probably the biggest part is not having access to the oven but if you have a dual oven you're likely okay.

So I just poured one litre into a round 9" pyrex bowl and put it in the oven on 180f at 2.00pm yesterday.
SD took it out around 11.30pm and then in the fridge at 1.00am.
About 11.30am, she lifted 'the top' and poured off the stuff underneath like the guy in the video. I tasted it, like the guy in the video did and it seemed like the real deal. It's probably been over 30 years since I last had some.

She decided to do an extra bit - strain the liquid through some cheesecloth, salvaging additional cream. The pour off wasn't as runny as in the video and this may be where the UHT issue is involved - possibly it doesn't produce as much clotted cream as non UHT cream would, without the extra step. But the extra amount was negligible anyway.
The reject cream - which she will use to make more scones looks like something between 10% and 18%

The scones are waiting but they can wait a bit longer. I went shopping this morning and for the first time in years I was able to get run of the mill raspberry jam doughnuts. I bought up the whole display. :lol:

Sounds like it went quite well :thumbs_up:

I can manage without the oven for 12 hours, so I'll give a try with a smaller amount, pretty sure that I can get hold of some fresh heavy cream.

Also taking christmasoompa's point of "with as much surface area as possible" when it comes to the dish.

BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 13th 2024 3:50 am

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Phase 1 is complete, 500ml of fresh heavy cream just spent 12 hours in the oven and is now cooling to room temperature before chilling in't 'fridge for another 12 hours, ahead of The Scrape.

It smells gorgeous.

If this works, I'm tempted to add some cinnamon next time.

BristolUK Oct 13th 2024 12:30 pm

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 13280146)
Phase 1 is complete, 500ml of fresh heavy cream just spent 12 hours in the oven and is now cooling to room temperature before chilling in't 'fridge for another 12 hours, ahead of The Scrape.

It smells gorgeous.

If this works, I'm tempted to add some cinnamon next time.

I looked at the leftover part today. We still have some scones left so there's no need for new ones yet.
This might sound daft but it looked like cream and it tasted lovely. I just imagined it to be something substandard but useful. I would happily have poured it over fruit or apple pie or something.

I reckon it was thicker than coffee cream - 18%.
So I used it to make cheese sauce for cauliflower cheese.

BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 13th 2024 10:47 pm

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 
Success, and very happy with the end result. I just took out a small corner and poured the runny stuff off into a cup, then wacked it into an airtight container and back in the 'fridge with it.

A 500ml jar yielded 280 gm clotted cream.

Now to try and find out how to make some scones ;)

BristolUK Oct 13th 2024 11:45 pm

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 13280260)
Success, and very happy with the end result. I just took out a small corner and poured the runny stuff off into a cup, then wacked it into an airtight container and back in the 'fridge with it.

A 500ml jar yielded 280 gm clotted cream.

Now to try and find out how to make some scones ;)

(see the food thread)

I plan on adding some to some ice cream. As a child I remember an ice cream shop in Croyde where we had ice cream with a clotted cream coating. Or mixed in.

Chocolate eclair Oct 14th 2024 2:23 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 13280260)
Success, and very happy with the end result. I just took out a small corner and poured the runny stuff off into a cup, then wacked it into an airtight container and back in the 'fridge with it.

A 500ml jar yielded 280 gm clotted cream.

Now to try and find out how to make some scones ;)

Paul Hollywood's scone recipe is very good. Scones are very easy to make, just don't overwork the dough. A light touch, don't twist the cutter when cutting out and just apply egg wash to the top.

BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 14th 2024 3:07 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by Chocolate eclair (Post 13280300)
Paul Hollywood's scone recipe is very good. Scones are very easy to make, just don't overwork the dough. A light touch, don't twist the cutter when cutting out and just apply egg wash to the top.

I'll pull this over to the Food thread later on and continue there, I have some questions.

British Columbian Oct 14th 2024 10:45 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 
For those of you in British Columbia "Save on Foods" has English Clotted Cream imported from the Devon Cream Company. $12 for a 170gram bottle. they also have English thick double cream for the same price.

Piff Poff Oct 14th 2024 3:22 pm

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 13280260)
Success, and very happy with the end result. I just took out a small corner and poured the runny stuff off into a cup, then wacked it into an airtight container and back in the 'fridge with it.

A 500ml jar yielded 280 gm clotted cream.

Now to try and find out how to make some scones ;)

I can help there, I make batch after batch at work.

450g all purpose flour
tsp salt
135g butter
1 rounded tbsp baking powder

Use a pastry blender to bread crumb add dried fruit etc if you wish.

add 250ml milk and one egg, bring together to combine

tip out onto worktop and roll out, fold edges in and roll, fold top and bottom and roll (a bit like doing rough puff pastry) make a 8inch round.
Egg wash

cut into 8 triangles and bake at 400 for 20 mins.

BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 14th 2024 10:58 pm

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 13280388)
I can help there, I make batch after batch at work.

450g all purpose flour
tsp salt
135g butter
1 rounded tbsp baking powder

Use a pastry blender to bread crumb add dried fruit etc if you wish.

add 250ml milk and one egg, bring together to combine

tip out onto worktop and roll out, fold edges in and roll, fold top and bottom and roll (a bit like doing rough puff pastry) make a 8inch round.
Egg wash

cut into 8 triangles and bake at 400 for 20 mins.

Thanks for that.

Seeing as this makes a round rather than individual scones got me thinking that I had read something similar somewhere, and late last evening worked out that it's from my "Cooking bible" - a very old and tattered copy of "The Fannie Farmer Cookbook".

That particular recipe calls for an additional 1tbsp of sugar, but I'll leave that out and report back in a few days.

Piff Poff Oct 15th 2024 3:19 am

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https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...4f09b0486e.jpg
this is a cheddar pepper onion.

BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 15th 2024 3:21 am

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 13280489)

You are reading my mind ;)

Piff Poff Oct 15th 2024 1:48 pm

Re: Scones - jam and cream
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13279414)
This Devon cream always worked well enough

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...94c7c0e073.png
But not available everywhere and pretty costly. Getting on for $13 for 170g.
Clotted cream is advertised on Amazon but all attempts to get some have failed to arrive. Sniffer dogs I expect. :lol:

Has anyone tried Puck?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...949dd790b0.jpg

Found it by accident in the cream cheese section.
Although there is a cheese version, this isn't it. It's just labelled as creamy dairy spread and no cheese listed in ingredients.
Similar price but 500g so it works out a third of the Devon one.

It's obviously not as good - especially tasting it on its own, so don't do that - but I tried it with jam on a croissant and it wasn't bad. But if it's ages since you had a 'cream tea' you might fancy it.

Funnily enough I found it while looking for cream cheese to go with smoked salmon for croissants and I think it went better with that than the usual cream cheese. So even if you're not keen, all is not lost.
Unless you don't like smoked salmon and cream cheese in a croissant. :lol:

I just got my SD to make some scones so I can try it with that. :thumbup:

And it works quite well.

I've tried the puck in a can. It's acceptable. There is a brand that's better. Dark grey label.


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