Salt Alternatives
Jan 21st 2014 | 4:07 am
#17
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Re: Salt Alternatives
@Siouxie
Great minds and all that....
Great minds and all that....
sorry, your picture wasn't showing when I posted!
Jan 21st 2014 | 5:15 am
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Re: Salt Alternatives
Jan 21st 2014 | 5:35 am
#21
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Re: Salt Alternatives
Probably just not the best quality concrete. My limited understanding is that neither salt or urea chemically attacks the concrete, its the fact that it creates liquid water that can then freeze/thaw/repeat and that is what can cause concrete to break down due to the mechanical pressures exerted by the freeze thaw action.
Decent "air entrained" concrete is better able to withstand the cycle, straight concrete doesnt do very well. Urea is better for the concrete because it needs colder temperatures before it freezes, so you dont get as many cycles. And as its a fertiliser it wont kill off any colateral vegitation the same way salt can.
Decent "air entrained" concrete is better able to withstand the cycle, straight concrete doesnt do very well. Urea is better for the concrete because it needs colder temperatures before it freezes, so you dont get as many cycles. And as its a fertiliser it wont kill off any colateral vegitation the same way salt can.
Jan 21st 2014 | 5:39 am
#22
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Re: Salt Alternatives
Of course you just move to somewhere that isn't a frozen hell hole.
Jan 21st 2014 | 6:38 am
#23
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From: 1313 Mockingbird Lane, Mockingbird Heights
Re: Salt Alternatives
Probably just not the best quality concrete. My limited understanding is that neither salt or urea chemically attacks the concrete, its the fact that it creates liquid water that can then freeze/thaw/repeat and that is what can cause concrete to break down due to the mechanical pressures exerted by the freeze thaw action.
Decent "air entrained" concrete is better able to withstand the cycle, straight concrete doesnt do very well. Urea is better for the concrete because it needs colder temperatures before it freezes, so you dont get as many cycles. And as its a fertiliser it wont kill off any colateral vegitation the same way salt can.
Decent "air entrained" concrete is better able to withstand the cycle, straight concrete doesnt do very well. Urea is better for the concrete because it needs colder temperatures before it freezes, so you dont get as many cycles. And as its a fertiliser it wont kill off any colateral vegitation the same way salt can.
Jan 21st 2014 | 6:43 am
#24
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From: SW Ontario
Re: Salt Alternatives
Probably just not the best quality concrete. My limited understanding is that neither salt or urea chemically attacks the concrete, its the fact that it creates liquid water that can then freeze/thaw/repeat and that is what can cause concrete to break down due to the mechanical pressures exerted by the freeze thaw action.
Decent "air entrained" concrete is better able to withstand the cycle, straight concrete doesnt do very well. Urea is better for the concrete because it needs colder temperatures before it freezes, so you dont get as many cycles. And as its a fertiliser it wont kill off any colateral vegitation the same way salt can.
Decent "air entrained" concrete is better able to withstand the cycle, straight concrete doesnt do very well. Urea is better for the concrete because it needs colder temperatures before it freezes, so you dont get as many cycles. And as its a fertiliser it wont kill off any colateral vegitation the same way salt can.
Thank you both!
Jan 21st 2014 | 11:36 am
#25
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From: UK
Re: Salt Alternatives
Pepper, especially freshly ground 
Jan 22nd 2014 | 5:58 am
#27
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From: Fredericton, New Brunswick CA
Re: Salt Alternatives
Dog piss seems to work as well as xenomorph acid blood.
Jan 22nd 2014 | 6:29 am
#28
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From: Ontario, Canada
Re: Salt Alternatives
pre mixed antifreeze or the -40c washer fluid
& what about Kitty litter
& what about Kitty litter
Last edited by not2old; Jan 22nd 2014 at 6:31 am.
Jan 22nd 2014 | 6:33 am
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