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So imagine you are a copper on patrol and you see a vehicle fail to stop at an intersection. Now you think I will pull this vehicle over speak to the driver and dependent on the circumstances issue them a verbal warning or give the driver a ticket.
Pretty routine stuff eh
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...tine-stop.html

Gotta love the US eh.

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whoa!

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More guns is the answer. Arm everyone to the f***ing teeth. God Bless America.

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Though an alternative interpretation could be that, had this happened in the UK, there would be two dead police officers and a maniac on the loose.

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Well perhaps the filth should be out catching real criminals like peadophiles and muggers rather than harassing innocent motorists over minor traffic violations.

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Probably not. Most maniacs in the UK don't have AK47s to hand.

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Probably not, but I'd imagine that some do. They certainly have firearms related crime in the UK, and unarmed officers have been killed.

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You're right. Let everyone buy all the guns they want then. That'll stop the gun crime.

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I don't recall advocating that everyone be armed!

I see the point you are trying to make but many UK criminal already do have access to firearms and are quite content to use them against officers who are not in a position to defend themselves.

As I said earlier, the incident in question would have resulted in two police officers being killed and an armed man being loose in the community.

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There is no correlation between legal gun ownership and use of guns by criminals. If you look around the world you can find countries with lots of legal guns and low crime, lots of legal guns and high crime, few legal guns and low crime, and few legal guns and high crime. A hundred years ago anyone in Britain could walk into a store and buy any gun they wanted, use of guns by criminals was no worse than today, and passers by even lent their gun to the police if they were chasing a violent criminal.

Criminals don't care about gun laws because... they're criminals. Disarming their victims might make them more reluctant to use guns since they don't need them, but is hardly an argument any politician is likely to use on TV.

As for AK47s, a friend in London did have a guy run around in the street just across from his house shooting at people with an AK47 (fortunately I don't think he hit anyone). So it does happen.

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There IS a correlation between rates of gun ownership and the chance of being killed by a gun. I'm sure the victims of gun crime don't really care whether it was a crazed criminal who kills them with a stolen AK-47, or whether it's their 5 year old brother who kills them with "My First Rifle."

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The main problem is the collapse of the rule of law across the West, especially in degrading societies like the US and Britain. By degrading, I mean economies that have had their day and are contracting. This is the issue, rather than gun ownership per se, although I don't see the need for automatic weapons, and they certainly were not available to the Edwardians to whom you rightly refer.

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The world's largest economy, with a GDP of $15+ trillion last year and growing at 2+% this year is hardly contracting. :rofl:

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When you get back up off the floor from your chortling, you might like to consider the following three facts:

1. US national debt is $16,802,326,290, 501.20. Bigger than the US GDP of $14.9 trillion.

2. US annual deficit of $1.4 trillion, which is of course making the above disparity between income and expenditure grow, or the economy contract, whichever you prefer.

3. US share of world GDP is rapidly contracting. It has fallen 32% since 2001 alone. It was 31% in 2001, now it is 21%. In 1945 it was 50%. Note the way the figures decrease in size: 50%, 31%, 21%. Imagine what they will be in 2050.

None of these things bring me pleasure, but now you've stopped laughing and got up off the floor you can see that the situation is in negative trend and it's going to wipe the smiles off a lot more faces over the next 20 years as well.

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That's already out of date. ;)