Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10978027)
Is the issue that he smoked crack, or his "denials" that he had done so?
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Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 10978047)
When that is a question you find yourself applying to the figurehead of your city, you've really got to ask if there's anyone else who might be a better representative for you...
What's wrong with smoking crack anyway? |
Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10978052)
Possibly. I thought the general complaint about politicians is that they are unrepresentative of the electorate.
What's wrong with smoking crack anyway? |
Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10978027)
Is the issue that he smoked crack, or his "denials" that he had done so?
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Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 10978056)
I think the issue is we live in a society where a majority of people can elect Rob Ford as mayor of their city. Novo has the right idea, get out while the going is good!
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Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10978059)
Do you think he will be re-elected?
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Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10978062)
I do.
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Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10978075)
It that simply because of profile, or, media issues aside, he is a good mayor?
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Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10978075)
It that simply because of profile, or, media issues aside, he is a good mayor?
I suspect his goose is probably cooked now and that another conservative candidate will emerge. As mayors go hes terrible, hes divisive, hes hardly delivered anything he promised, he has if anything lowered the level of council ethics, hes constantly bluring lines between personal and mayoral business and his priorities have at times been somewhat questionable like leaving council sessions to go coach high school football. Its hard to put a lot of faith and trust in the judgment of a guy who smoked crack while allegedly pissed to the gills, lied about it and then berated journalists for not asking the right questions. He'll probably be in the Federal Cabinet or better yet the Senate by the time hes finished. |
Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10978075)
It that simply because of profile, or, media issues aside, he is a good mayor?
That said, I don't think Toronto's had a good Mayor since Mel Lastman*, it's not as if there's a huge range of quality candidates to choose from. * yes, I know he was corrupt and also an oaf but he sold Toronto well (at least to white people). |
Re: Rob Ford Again
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Pretty sure Rob Ford is one of these guys.
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Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 10978093)
Single issue... Lower taxes.
I suspect his goose is probably cooked now and that another conservative candidate will emerge. As mayors go hes terrible, hes divisive, hes hardly delivered anything he promised, he has if anything lowered the level of council ethics, hes constantly bluring lines between personal and mayoral business and his priorities have at times been somewhat questionable like leaving council sessions to go coach high school football. Its hard to put a lot of faith and trust in the judgment of a guy who smoked crack while allegedly pissed to the gills, lied about it and then berated journalists for not asking the right questions. He'll probably be in the Federal Cabinet or better yet the Senate by the time hes finished. |
Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 10978093)
Single issue... Lower taxes.
I suspect his goose is probably cooked now and that another conservative candidate will emerge. As mayors go hes terrible, hes divisive, hes hardly delivered anything he promised, he has if anything lowered the level of council ethics, hes constantly bluring lines between personal and mayoral business and his priorities have at times been somewhat questionable like leaving council sessions to go coach high school football. Its hard to put a lot of faith and trust in the judgment of a guy who smoked crack while allegedly pissed to the gills, lied about it and then berated journalists for not asking the right questions. He'll probably be in the Federal Cabinet or better yet the Senate by the time hes finished. I have to admit I don't see the issue with smoking crack. A very clever University professor was on CNN the other day and stated that, in essence, it was no more harmful that pot.
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10978098)
IMO he's not a good mayor but I think most voters like what he stands for; shifting the tax burden downtown. I don't think most people care that he's an oaf.
That said, I don't think Toronto's had a good Mayor since Mel Lastman*, it's not as if there's a huge range of quality candidates to choose from. * yes, I know he was corrupt and also an oaf but he sold Toronto well (at least to white people).
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 10978138)
Not exactly a role model. Get rid of him Toronto.
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Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10978157)
Puts lawyer's hat on: There is no such thing as a stupid answer; only a stupid question.
I have to admit I don't see the issue with smoking crack. A very clever University professor was on CNN the other day and stated that, in essence, it was no more harmful that pot. I wouldnt trust him to baby sit a 10 year old, never mind run a city. As you may have figured out I dont have much regard for most politicians, but I will judge them based on their ability to deliver on the promises that got them elected, and whether they behave in an upfront, ethical way. If they can do those two things then you cant really argue with democracy in action even if you disagree with the actions themselves. But any way you look at it Rob Ford gets a failing grade. |
Re: Rob Ford Again
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 10978056)
I think the issue is we live in a society where a majority of people can elect (and may yet reelect) Rob Ford as mayor of their city. Novo has the right idea, get out while the going is good!
Toronto is lucky, it gets all the laughs. For instance when Ford said "God Bless Toronto". |
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