Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8769935)

Why amazed? Isn't it just conversation? MOH is always asked why he won't eat lamb, he doesn't like it, why doesn't he like it? He just doesn't. Tomatoes, he can't eat raw tomatoes, why? the make him ill. How do the make him ill?..........and so on. Not really a lifestyle choice more a mealstyle choice.

I suppose being veggie is more a lifestyle choice if you do the whole no animal products in anything thing.

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 8769932)

You have to watch what you eat as either veggie or non. I personally have suffered from lack of various Vitimin Bs and also lack of Creatine which I only found out about 6 months ago. I always wondered why I found it harder to exercise than other people and it turns out meat contains that stuff, which is basically muscle fuel. Now I have creatine supplements before I go to the gym.

Not big issues and I certainly don't think they're worth killing an animal for to avoid.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 8769976)

So is chicken and fish not meat then?



What about the comparison between those that eat a balanced veggie diet and those that eat a balanced non veggie diet. Extremes, as I am sure you are aware, count for nothing.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 8769976)

So is chicken and fish not meat then?

of course. i've just never heard of people saying that they have been advised by their doctors to eat less fish or chicken

What about the comparison between those that eat a balanced veggie diet and those that eat a balanced non veggie diet. Extremes, as I am sure you are aware, count for nothing.

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 8769921)

Is it just a lifestyle choice though? I couldn't be vegetarian because I get really intense cravings for meat and I love it. Whereas Oh has been vege since he was around 20 and has never ever craved meat and is indifferent to it. I can't imagine that. My body seems to need it. It seems to me that vegetarianism is just easier for some people.

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 8769970)

Creatine is made in the lab from chemicals. It's a relatively simple compound.

Originally Posted by spankysparkle (Post 8769979)

i have no problem with people asking if they are simply curious, but often people are amazed that we don't eat meat (I mean we are South African and they LOVE their red meat!) or being pitied because surely we must miss the taste of meat. urgh. Anyway, thankfully we don't get that anymore (at least not in the UK). being a Vege/Vegan is a lot more acceptable now than it was 10 years ago :)

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8770017)

So one can't get all the nutrients one needs without eating meat or fish or resorting to a chemistry set?

Mind you most meat eating people don't eat well so probably are no healthier than the vegetarians next door but if one was purely aiming for the most nutritious diet then omnivore-ing is the way to go.

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 8770033)

had the same thought.

It's my one concern with OH being a vegetarian for so long. We have some ex-vege friends who ended up giving it up due to health issues.

Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 8768261)

The Canadian authorities specify minimum nutritional values for key nutrients for any 'simulated poultry substitutes' to be sold in Canada. As they currently stand, most of our products would not meet all of these criteria, and to achieve this, in some cases, it would be necessary to fortify Quorn products with some of these nutrients. Fortification does not at present meet with our brand values.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8770053)

It was one of my reasons for giving up. Osteoporosis and wanting an easier way to get calcium in than dairy and legumes. B vitamins can be a problem too and I have a veggie friend who has to have B12 shot regularly.

Since we have been in Canada we have eaten more red meat, cheaper than chicken etc, and cholesterol levels went up, in spite of cheese consumption going down. So now we eat more ground turkey burgers and eat veggie meals three times a week. Hopefully this will work.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8770025)

I didn't think it was unaccepted 10 years ago, 20 even when I did the veggie thing. Vegan though, now that was definitely considered crank world.

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 8770033)

had the same thought.

It's my one concern with OH being a vegetarian for so long. We have some ex-vege friends who ended up giving it up due to health issues.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8770017)

So one can't get all the nutrients one needs without eating meat or fish or resorting to a chemistry set?

Originally Posted by spankysparkle (Post 8770087)

we just gor back from living in Germany for 3 years, and there being a vegetarian is very strange, and often on our travels we have come across people who think vegetarians eat fish and/or chicken :D


mr fluff has been veggie for 23 years now, and zero issues, me for 10. I think you can be healthy as a vegetarian if you eat a high raw balanced diet, but it is not easy. including things like green juices (home made, with spinage or other dark green leaves, fruit, veggies and even sprouts) help - i can give you a recipe if you like, and enough seeds and fresh sprouts, which are super easy to grow and very, very good for you. a green juice a day keeps the doctor away ;). it looks vile but tastes YUMMY

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 8770107)

I had the same feeling when I found this out, actually made me question it a lot, problem is I've been veggie for over 15 years so I'm stuck in my ways :P I still feel good about not eating meat.