Quorn in Canada update
 

hi all

just got this e mail response re Quorn avaialability in Canada . . . maybe if all the veggies harass then they might push harder . . .

Thank you for your recent contact regarding Quorn products.

For your information all Quorn products are only made here in the UK and are branded and sold only by ourselves.

We have investigated selling Quorn products in Canada in reply to enquiries from other consumers.

The Canadian authorities specify minimum nutritional values for key nutrients for any 'simulated poultry substitutes' to be sold in Canada. As they currently stand, most of our products would not meet all of these criteria, and to achieve this, in some cases, it would be necessary to fortify Quorn products with some of these nutrients. Fortification does not at present meet with our brand values.
We are therefore unable to advise when or if we will be able to sell Quorn products in Canada.

As Quorn products are sold frozen, it is not feasible to despatch small quantities for direct sale.

Unfortunately, we do not sell our products direct in the USA this is only through distributors. UNFI distribute our products in Vermont, and may be able to work with you. We have heard from Canadians in the past that have done "Quorn runs" to the US taking coolers and purchasing products there and bringing back home to Canada for personal use.

Hope this information has been helpful. Feel free to contact us again with any additional questions or comments.

Yours sincerely

Tracey Cope
Consumer Care Advisor

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I thought you were talking about the hunt!
http://www.quornhunt.co.uk/

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hmmm - nope! :blink:

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I enjoyed this part :D

I do like a bit of Quorn (and I'm a meat-lover!), tasty and relatively cheap compared to meat (i.e. good for a student). Perhaps I'll have to look into doing some Quorn runs when I move...

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oh dear. i was hoping they would have soy and veggie based products (like sausages, mince, burger patties and so on) in Canada. Are any other products available?

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Isn't the problem with Quorn simply that the Canadian authorities don't consider it to be food fit for human consumption? Even in Canada there's no legislation governing consumption of non-food items, it's not an offence to eat the box rather than the Big Mac, so why not import it as something else; animal feed, roofing sealant, insulation, whatever, and then eat it. So long as you only put it in the mouths of consenting adults it seems to me that that shouldn't trouble the authorities.

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So does Quorn contain any nutritional value at all, or just not enough for the Canadian food authorities. One would think that, if Tim Hortons products pass the test, their standards cannot be too high.

It sounds like you hit the nail squarely on its head.

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Otherwise the kids will just go hungry and will waste away.

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strol...155840_std.jpg

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There are plenty of other meat alternative products in Canada. I've seen sausages, burgers, meatballs, bacon in the main stores and BulkBarn has soya and TVP pretend ground meat.

I've said it before and will say it again though - cos I'm like that - I don't understand the need for vegetarians to eat meat substitutes, either vegetable are good enough to replace meat or they aren't. Factory made products are usually full of chemicals and additives and it's pretty easy to make veggie burgers and sausages from beans and chick peas.

Quorn is not gluten free and contains egg, the eggs used not to be free range either so many vegetarians would not want to eat it. It was also introduced as something made from mushrooms when it isn't, it's a mould grown in a bin which doesn't seem very appetising to me.

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I can see two reasons for that:

- the food format adopted for meat is a convenient one, burgers and hot dogs, for example, and has merit regardless of the content of the bun. It such cases it's not about wanting something formatted like meat so much as just liking the presentation. Similarly, a non-vegetarian might choose one of beef, lamb or chicken as the product offered in a burger due to an aversion to eating one of the other animal products. The same applies to turkey bacon sold in "BLTs" in Muslim countries, lousy though it is.

- again with burgers and hot dogs, it's convenient to have vegetarian versions for children so as to minimise the degree to which they are stigmatised as being the progeny of eco-nutter wack jobs.

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I agree, we never touched meat substitutes until very recently, and only because it is sometimes nice to chuck something other than just veggies on the bbq when you are too lazy to make it from scratch (although bean and veg burgers are so much yummier). We get most of our protein from raw veg and sprouts :thumbsup: but it is nice to know that the fake stuff is available for the odd occasion. And in the UK at least there are other meat substitute products that do not contain egg, are higher in protein content and taste better than Quorn.

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Hmm ,yes, I can see that now, child free zone here so I don't think on those lines.

Still not convinced on the other stuff though. My veggie years were not filled with quorn and burger substitutes, unless provided by a non veggie going out of their way to be kind.

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It's been a while but, at one time, I had a vegetarian child. Recalling that, in the eighties her mother started a co-op in order to obtain organic food in Ontario (it's still going though organic produce is widely available now). The co-op imported all manner of products technically not allowed for sale in Canada, some due to labelling issues, some due to content, as well as selling local produce of dubious legality, raw milk, free range eggs and so on. I would imagine that other food co-ops similarly flout the law and wonder if they might not be a source of this horrible sounding mould.

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Maybe, Quorn smuggling. In years to come there will be museums detailing the efforts made by deprived vegetarians so sneak it across borders.

I think I might go and make some falafel now.

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Go to Chilliwack, its full of the stuff right now, sweet an' tasty, there is even a maze.

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Interesting. My OH (vege) says the same thing re: meat substitutes. But, I think for mixed vege/meat families like mine and Bells', it's nice to have a 'meat' that everyone wants to eat.

Personally I love tempeh. mmmmm.

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I've not tried tempeh. What kind of taste does it have?

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Kind of whatever you give it, like tofu. But I prefer the texture of tempeh to tofu - it's more meaty.

Had a yummy spicey tempeh stew the other day. mmm.

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Not everyone is vegetarian for political reasons anyway.

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I cook with tofu occasionally but the texture is odd. Will give tempeh a try if it has more bite to it

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I'm not vegetarian, but I like tofu. Fried with some veggies it can be very tasty.

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tofu (as long as it is the firm kind) is great sliced on a sarmie with lots of sprouts, leaves, some chutney, and whatever salad type veggies you prefer. YUM

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I get the firm stuff then dry fry it to make it crunchyish then add stuff. It's cheap and good for you etc.

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< has visions of people wrapping it in condoms and swallowing it> :rofl:

< wonders if it would actually make a difference taste wise>

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Lost,sorry Alan...:unsure:

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I'm with you. I'm not a huge fan of tofu.

I prefer lentils.

But most of all I prefer a BIG JUICY STEAK. bwa ahahahahaha

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have you ever tried smoked tofu? They make it on Salt Spring Island. It's actually pretty good i.e. actually has flavour

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yes indeed, love it! can chomp it all on its own. :wub:

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YEs, even I really like it. When I can get to it and the OH hasn't taken it all for himself.

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Can someone explain to me whats so great about Quorn? Veggie Patch and Yves are far superior.

This is the only veggie food item I miss:
http://www.highlandveggies.org/Cater...NDAMAC-PIE.jpg

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i tried these pies a couple of months ago, and thought they were awful. give me a proper veggie pie with a creamy sauce any day.

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Slightly OT but true:

The OH had taken over the cooking for a few weeks and, of course, due to him being a vege, every meal was vegetarian. I'm ok with that because I do like vegetarian food, but:

One night I had a dream. Well, actually, it was more like an ad break paid for by my subconscious. My last dream ended, and then I dreamt I was looking at a chicken sitting on a kitchen table. It was plucked, raw and ready to go in the oven. It was perfect. Not a blemish on it. Just meaty, oh how meaty it looked. IT was spot-lit from above, as if by God's heavenly light. Nothing else happened. It was just me and the chicken in quiet harmony.

YUM, I thought.

I woke up the next morning and turned to OH and said Oi, you. You need to cook me some meat. I've started dreaming about dead chickens.

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I used to know someone that didn't eat meat for health reasons and someone that just didn't like it. Neither had any moral problem with meat eating. Admittedly if you don't like the taste, you probably aren't going to like meat flavour substitutes, but if your doc has told you not to eat bacon, then some bacon flavour substitute might not seem like too bad an idea.

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Oh, see what you're saying.

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i'm always amazed at why veggies have to explain why they're vegetarian: health/animal rights etc etc
and why we're always asked: 'but don't you miss meat?' FFS no, it's a lifestyle choice, let it be.

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The reason I'm vegetarian, which I'm willing to accept probably seems like the dumbest one of all, is because our current level of society allows me to be. If I was stuck on an island somewhere and I had to eat meat I would.

Each to their own! It's actually very hard to get just regular veggie pies here. I saw one brand in pricesmart but it was $5 per pie! None of the own-brand pies are vegetarian.

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I had someone ask me the other day how we chose to raise our child i.e. vegetarian or meat eater, cos we're in a mixed marriage. I think people are just curious because it's not that common.

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Is it a proven fact that being a veggie is healthier than not?

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Is it just a lifestyle choice though? I couldn't be vegetarian because I get really intense cravings for meat and I love it. Whereas Oh has been vege since he was around 20 and has never ever craved meat and is indifferent to it. I can't imagine that. My body seems to need it. It seems to me that vegetarianism is just easier for some people.

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You have to watch what you eat as either veggie or non. I personally have suffered from lack of various Vitimin Bs and also lack of Creatine which I only found out about 6 months ago. I always wondered why I found it harder to exercise than other people and it turns out meat contains that stuff, which is basically muscle fuel. Now I have creatine supplements before I go to the gym.

Not big issues and I certainly don't think they're worth killing an animal for to avoid.