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not2old Jan 16th 2017 2:58 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12152732)
You have an odd fixation with this Wynne person.

Tomorrow I shall ask people around me in the office "did you vote for Wynne?". I'm close to certain that no one will recognize the name


Curious as to the response you received?

dave2003 Jan 16th 2017 3:04 am

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Looking at the current debt financing cost for Canada, and it becomes evident that those costs are behind the call from finance ministers for austerity.


"Canadian governments (including local governments) collectively spent an estimated $60.8 billion on interest payments in 2014/15. That works out to 8.1% of their total revenue that year. To further put the amount spent on interest payments in perspective, it is more than what is spent on pension benefits through the Canada and Quebec Pension Plans ($50.9 billion), and approximately equal to Canada’s total public spending on primary and secondary education ($62.2 billion, as of 2012/13, the last year for which we have finalized data)."


For the UK, the current financing costs for its national debt is £43 billion.


This intergenerational debt transfer is behind the justified "can't pay" cry of younger generations-why hospitals, schools and infrastructure are neglected, pensions squeezed, and investment compromised. Someone does have to pay however.


Anybody remember Paul Martin, often described as the best Prime Minister Canada never had? In the late '90s, the Chretien government made a determined effort to curtail spending, and real reductions were made not only in the growth of public spending, but total debt. It was the only time that I can remember when national debt appeared to be taken seriously.


In the UK, George Osborne took a similar course, but he got tossed, and now T. May seems set to open the spigot again with the usual "money is cheap."













dbd33 Jan 16th 2017 3:14 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 12153180)
Curious as to the response you received?

There are only five people besides me here this morning. One knew that it was a woman and the position she holds but didn't vote. I don't know if the others are eligible to vote, they don't seem to have done so and they didn't know the name.

Paul_Shepherd Jan 16th 2017 4:16 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12152552)
It's also hard hard to find anyone in Ontario who proudly says they voted for Wynne

A lobotomised person maybe?

Edo Jan 16th 2017 4:17 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 12153123)
Edo, are you an immigrant to Canada?

Yep.

So I know my place :lol:

not2old Jan 16th 2017 4:19 am

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Originally Posted by Edo (Post 12153276)
Yep.

So I know my place :lol:

:lol:

sorted, then 'truth be known' you would also be a Canadian citizen? ;)

Paul_Shepherd Jan 16th 2017 4:20 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 12152142)
I'd prefer neither, but if those were the only two choices, I'd take Trump. I think it's pretty clear that America will be much better off after eight years of Trump than Canada will be after eight years of Trudeau.

On the plus side, Trudeau may make the Liberals as unelectable here as the Democrats now are in America. If he's going to be the Canadian Obama, I guess we have to wait a few years to find out who's going to be the Canadian Trump.

:goodpost:

Neither are a choice id make, but id take Trump over Trudeau if i had to make a choice. Trudeau is too busy singing kumbaya, taking selfies and p*ssing away tax payer money to get anything constructive done.

macadian Jan 16th 2017 4:26 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12153282)
:goodpost:

Neither are a choice id make, but id take Trump over Trudeau if i had to make a choice. Trudeau is too busy singing kumbaya, taking selfies and p*ssing away tax payer money to get anything constructive done.

Blessed are the tax payers for they will inherit the debt.....

Paul_Shepherd Jan 16th 2017 4:31 am

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Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12153292)
Blessed are the tax payers for they will inherit the debt.....

Yes a sad fact of life. :(

dbd33 Jan 16th 2017 4:50 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12153282)
:goodpost:

Neither are a choice id make, but id take Trump over Trudeau if i had to make a choice. Trudeau is too busy singing kumbaya, taking selfies and p*ssing away tax payer money to get anything constructive done.

The implication being that Trump is going to do something constructive; what might that be?

Vulcanoid Jan 16th 2017 5:00 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12153321)
The implication being that Trump is going to do something constructive; what might that be?

Quite - I think the lower the constructive action, the more important the mood music. Whilst the Liberals haven't accomplished a huge amount in a year (not that governments normally can/do), the general attitude coming out of Ottawa is very positive, relaxed, optimistic. Gods only know what Trump's going to do or try to, but the noises from DC are bombastic, aggressive and unpleasant. He'd need some serious genuine accomplishments to make that worthwhile, and he's very unlikely to get them considering that the few concrete promises he's made are completely at odds with what's likely to be possible in Congress.

magnumpi Jan 16th 2017 5:04 am

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Looks like the Ethics police have a few questions of their own for the PM

Ethics watchdog to investigate PM's use of Aga Khan's private helicopter | CTV News

BristolUK Jan 16th 2017 5:05 am

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Would you rather live in a country where the head of government was Trudeau or Trump?

Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 12152142)
...I'd take Trump. I think it's pretty clear that America will be much better off after eight years of Trump than Canada will be after eight years of Trudeau...


Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12153282)
...id take Trump over Trudeau if i had to make a choice. Trudeau is too busy singing kumbaya, taking selfies and p*ssing away tax payer money to get anything constructive done.

:(
Is there no hope for mankind? I'm off to join womankind, if they'll have me.


Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12153321)
The implication being that Trump is going to do something constructive; what might that be?

He's going to construct that wall.

BristolUK Jan 16th 2017 5:11 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12153333)
...Ethics watchdog to investigate PM's use of Aga Khan's private helicopter....

So on the one hand we have a racist, sexist dodgy businessman who speaks of putting people in prison without trial and on the other hand someone who should have reported a helicopter ride and appears in too many photographs.

Hmmmmm...which one is worse? :confused:

Paul_Shepherd Jan 16th 2017 5:20 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12153334)
:(
Is there no hope for mankind? I'm off to join womankind, if they'll have me.


He's going to construct that wall.

Im not a Trump fan....hes a loose cannon from what ive seen of him so far, we can only hope hes a better president than campaigner.

Much of Trump's campaign was about bringing jobs back into the states, which can only be good, charity begins at home.

Cant really say the same for Trudeau...he hasnt done anything except push up Canadian debt with nothing to benefit Canadian citizens, and increase tax so he has more to fritter away. :(

dbd33 Jan 16th 2017 6:00 am

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12153334)



He's going to construct that wall.

Perhaps, and that would have Keynesian merit. Also war is good for the economy due to employing a lot of people and reducing the population, he might well achieve that.

MrHyperPants Jan 18th 2017 12:49 pm

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Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 12152142)
I'd prefer neither, but if those were the only two choices, I'd take Trump. I think it's pretty clear that America will be much better off after eight years of Trump than Canada will be after eight years of Trudeau.

On the plus side, Trudeau may make the Liberals as unelectable here as the Democrats now are in America. If he's going to be the Canadian Obama, I guess we have to wait a few years to find out who's going to be the Canadian Trump.

No need to wait, announced today

:rofl:

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 18th 2017 12:58 pm

Re: Questions for PM
 
Seems the PM upset some English speakers in Quebec by answering a question in French when the question was asked in English.

Flogger Jan 18th 2017 1:07 pm

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12155521)
Seems the PM upset some English speakers in Quebec by answering a question in French when the question was asked in English.

He would of upset a whole lot more if he answered in English

dbd33 Jan 18th 2017 1:12 pm

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12155521)
Seems the PM upset some English speakers in Quebec by answering a question in French when the question was asked in English.

Did he or did he just upset some people in Calgary? I would think people attending a meeting announced as being in French would not be shocked to hear French.

Souvy Jan 18th 2017 11:07 pm

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12155528)
Did he or did he just upset some people in Calgary? I would think people attending a meeting announced as being in French would not be shocked to hear French.

I think he cocked up. An article in the Montreal Gazette pointed out that not even Rene Levesque would have done what Trudeau did.

The key point, I believe, is whether Trudeau was there in a political or federal capacity. If it was the latter, people certainly have the right to complain.

Charter of Rights and Freedoms and all that.

BristolUK Jan 18th 2017 11:16 pm

Re: Questions for PM
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12155521)
Seems the PM upset some English speakers in Quebec by answering a question in French when the question was asked in English.

It appears he was just being consistent. In one of the earlier sessions in Ontario a question was asked in French and he answered in English. Something about applying the principle of using the majority language for where he was and thus having more people understand his response.

The counter argument would be responding in the language of the question and then the other. But that would double the time for answers and reduce the time on questions. Looks like a no-win situation.

Edo Jan 19th 2017 5:18 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12155521)
Seems the PM upset some English speakers in Quebec by answering a question in French when the question was asked in English.

So if he speaks in English he is in trouble and if he speaks in French he is in trouble. Such is the life of a poor Prime Minister.


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