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Question for the dog people
So, my son got this goldendoodle puppy on August 1st. I think I mentioned that he got Parvo on August 5th, but he has been over that for three weeks now. He just will not stay quiet in his crate.
Unfortunately, nobody guessed he was going to be this difficult. My son has a duplex and he doesn't want to annoy the neighbours, so he is stuck bringing the dog here when he goes out!! He is not best pleased about it -- neither am I. I like the dog, but I don't want another dog and I'm not sure how long this is going to go on. I think the dog is just wants to get his own way. Someone said its more "I don't want to go in the crate" than "Please don't leave me." He was sleeping at the top of my stairs and I went out in the garden and out of sight, and he never made a sound and he never came to look out the deck doors! But when I repeated the process and put him in his crate, I had only been out of the deck door about 10 seconds before he started the yipping. So, I don't think it separation anxiety when he doesn't care if you leave him so long as he is not in his crate. My son said he tried for two days - he put the dog in his crate and went out and sat on the front steps for 45 minutes and the dog cried the whole time!! My son has to go to work. He can't leave the dog there in case he howls the whole time he is at work and while his neighbours are nice, I doubt they would be nice if they had to put up with 4 hours of dog howling!! I am going to have the dog here this afternoon. I am going to try shutting him in the downstairs bathroom with a dog gate. I don't have decent cabinets down there so it doesn't really matter. Then I am going to set the alarm. Drive away and go around the back and creep in the back gate to see if he is howling! I am suspicious that sometimes dogs listen for the car - so I am going to replicate going away for several hourse and see what happens. Of course, I don't know anything about dog psychology - whether he might be quiet at my house and not at my son's???? As my son said "If I had a house rather than a duplex, I would just go out and leave him howling." At both houses he has kongs and nylabones and chew toys. What we want is obviously for my son to be able to get the dog happy and quiet in his crate so my son can go out for several hours, without the dog driving the neighbours batty. There are lots of dog experts on here. I wonder if any have advice. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Purley
(Post 7917836)
So, my son got this goldendoodle puppy on August 1st. I think I mentioned that he got Parvo on August 5th, but he has been over that for three weeks now. He just will not stay quiet in his crate.
Unfortunately, nobody guessed he was going to be this difficult. My son has a duplex and he doesn't want to annoy the neighbours, so he is stuck bringing the dog here when he goes out!! He is not best pleased about it -- neither am I. I like the dog, but I don't want another dog and I'm not sure how long this is going to go on. I think the dog is just wants to get his own way. Someone said its more "I don't want to go in the crate" than "Please don't leave me." He was sleeping at the top of my stairs and I went out in the garden and out of sight, and he never made a sound and he never came to look out the deck doors! But when I repeated the process and put him in his crate, I had only been out of the deck door about 10 seconds before he started the yipping. So, I don't think it separation anxiety when he doesn't care if you leave him so long as he is not in his crate. My son said he tried for two days - he put the dog in his crate and went out and sat on the front steps for 45 minutes and the dog cried the whole time!! My son has to go to work. He can't leave the dog there in case he howls the whole time he is at work and while his neighbours are nice, I doubt they would be nice if they had to put up with 4 hours of dog howling!! I am going to have the dog here this afternoon. I am going to try shutting him in the downstairs bathroom with a dog gate. I don't have decent cabinets down there so it doesn't really matter. Then I am going to set the alarm. Drive away and go around the back and creep in the back gate to see if he is howling! I am suspicious that sometimes dogs listen for the car - so I am going to replicate going away for several hourse and see what happens. Of course, I don't know anything about dog psychology - whether he might be quiet at my house and not at my son's???? As my son said "If I had a house rather than a duplex, I would just go out and leave him howling." At both houses he has kongs and nylabones and chew toys. What we want is obviously for my son to be able to get the dog happy and quiet in his crate so my son can go out for several hours, without the dog driving the neighbours batty. There are lots of dog experts on here. I wonder if any have advice. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Why does the dog have to go into the crate when your son goes out?
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 7917863)
Why does the dog have to go into the crate when your son goes out?
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Because he is just a puppy and my son just installed maple hardwood floors that he doesn't want chewed up and he has electrical cords going to the television and the computer etc. etc. He doesn't want his house wrecked or the dog electrocuted!
And the most the dog would be alone would be three hours because my granddaughter can go home at lunch time to let him out and then she is done school at 3. Or I could go over there if she is busy at lunch time. But even so, he could destroy the house in three hours. Of course, when he is older and doesn't chew things, he will have free run of the house. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Purley
(Post 7917871)
Because he is just a puppy and my son just installed maple hardwood floors that he doesn't want chewed up and he has electrical cords going to the television and the computer etc. etc. He doesn't want his house wrecked or the dog electrocuted!
And the most the dog would be alone would be three hours because my granddaughter can go home at lunch time to let him out and then she is done school at 3. Or I could go over there if she is busy at lunch time. But even so, he could destroy the house in three hours. Of course, when he is older and doesn't chew things, he will have free run of the house. |
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Is there a small room your son could leave him in where he can't do much damage? Laundry rooms are usually ideal or even a downstairs toilet/powder room.
I once read not to make a big thing about leaving can help. I never say goodbye to my dogs...I just give them a biscuit then leave while they are eating it. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
(Post 7917876)
Yet you left him alone in the house and he slept at the top of the stairs?:confused:
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 7917916)
Is there a small room your son could leave him in where he can't do much damage? Laundry rooms are usually ideal or even a downstairs toilet/powder room.
If it works here, my son will try that next. Has to buy a dog gate first! |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Purley
(Post 7917929)
I went out in the garden!! I was gone maybe 5-7 minutes. He's only three months old - I doubt he could eat a table in 5 minutes. I wouldn't leave him alone in my house and go away. Even my little dog chewed my table legs and the wood at the top of the stairs when he was a puppy.
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Purley
(Post 7917936)
I am going to try that next. I've taken everything dangerous, toilet bowl cleaner etc. etc out of the cabinet in the downstairs bathroom and I am going to try using the dog gate to shut him in there -- see my first post!
If it works here, my son will try that next. Has to buy a dog gate first! |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
(Post 7917948)
At three months old I doubt he could (seriously) damage anything ;). The point really is that the dog (apparently) dislikes going in the crate. Two options 'train' him that going in the crate is not a bad thing ( I imagine the only time he is put in the crate is when your 'family' leaves him alone) OR just leave him to 'roam free'. Believe me IF he is going to howl he will howl for as long as it takes for someone to come home. BTW the dog is probably not as dumb as you think and will 'be aware' that you are sneaking through the back gate.
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 7917959)
I had a doberman pup that could just about damage anything it put it's mind to.
I've had a Mini schnauzer that ate\scratched THROUGH a door at 6 months and a JR that ate a WHOLE barstool leg at 5 months, but Nothing that did (serious) damage at 12 weeks. |
Re: Question for the dog people
He needs to want to go in the crate - make it a place of choice for him, so he feels happy and secure in it. Leave treats, chew toys etc in there so he uses it on his own accord, rather than as a place he's locked into at your convenience.
We crate trained our border collie pup, and he happily wanders in and out of it, often choosing it as a place for a snooze rather than the rest of the house. Don't give in to some whining, whimpering or barking - once you've given in to him he'll realize that he can easy get your attention by that method. |
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We always feed in the crate, I think that helps with making it an attractive place.
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We had the same problem with our 2 huskies and one of our neighbours was a real pain, kept ringing me at work to come home and see to them even though we had a dog walker and my mum come round to the house, neighbours eh!!!
We ended up taking them to Doggy Day Care :rofl:, some kennels over here in the UK have started taking dogs during the day for working couples, an idea from the states and Canada I believe so it may be worth him looking into that. Our 2 love it and we know they have care and attention all day so we dont have to worry about them although we will be trying to get them out of it when we move to Canada as although we have found them somewhere its not cheap everyday!! |
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Dogs experiencing separation anxiety will chew wood to help with their boredom and fear. The dog needs to be crated as others have said and while he will make noise for a while he will get accustomed to it. He/she should be crated on occasion while you are in the house so he/she understands it is not punishment and they are going to get out again. Stanley Coren, who has written many books on dogs, maintains that they can be trained out of the separation problem.
As far as chewing table legs and other wooden items get Bitter Apple from the pet store. Spray it on anything chewable at the dog's mouth level and they will not chew. As the name implies it is bitter and dogs do not enjoy it. It doesn't leave any marks on anything it's sprayed on to, including cloth. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 7918015)
We always feed in the crate, I think that helps with making it an attractive place.
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Auld Yin
(Post 7918044)
Dogs experiencing separation anxiety will chew wood to help with their boredom and fear. The dog needs to be crated as others have said and while he will make noise for a while he will get accustomed to it. He/she should be crated on occasion while you are in the house so he/she understands it is not punishment and they are going to get out again. Stanley Coren, who has written many books on dogs, maintains that they can be trained out of the separation problem.
As far as chewing table legs and other wooden items get Bitter Apple from the pet store. Spray it on anything chewable at the dog's mouth level and they will not chew. As the name implies it is bitter and dogs do not enjoy it. It doesn't leave any marks on anything it's sprayed on to, including cloth. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Auld Yin
(Post 7918044)
Dogs experiencing separation anxiety will chew wood to help with their boredom and fear. The dog needs to be crated as others have said and while he will make noise for a while he will get accustomed to it. He/she should be crated on occasion while you are in the house so he/she understands it is not punishment and they are going to get out again. Stanley Coren, who has written many books on dogs, maintains that they can be trained out of the separation problem.
As far as chewing table legs and other wooden items get Bitter Apple from the pet store. Spray it on anything chewable at the dog's mouth level and they will not chew. As the name implies it is bitter and dogs do not enjoy it. It doesn't leave any marks on anything it's sprayed on to, including cloth. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
(Post 7918069)
I've had three dogs that would sit and lick it off whatever surface I sprayed it on. (Result? Their chew toys were soaked in it and they would spend hours sucking the toys instead)
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Auld Yin
(Post 7918044)
As far as chewing table legs and other wooden items get Bitter Apple from the pet store. Spray it on anything chewable at the dog's mouth level and they will not chew. As the name implies it is bitter and dogs do not enjoy it. It doesn't leave any marks on anything it's sprayed on to, including cloth.
Regarding the crates ours use them all the time now although we haven't crated them and gone out but they are quite good now they are nearly 2 years old. It does help if you feed them in the crate sometimes and give them treats in there, they have to feel its a place where good things happen otherwise they won't take to it. |
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My daschund is 4 now, and we tried every trick in the book when he was younger to get him to take to the crate.
He has no issues being alone, and doesn't damage so he just roams the house when nobody is home. I video taped him a few times, and when he is alone he sleeps, and seems fine, bring out the crate and he runs to the bed and hides. I think at some point he was abused or something involving a crate due to the way he acts when he even sees one. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
(Post 7918082)
pmsl!! hooked on anti nail bite stuff!! only you Butch!!
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Originally Posted by mags1972
(Post 7918084)
Yep we were told this. tried it and it just encouraged em even more, we then bought a plug in DMP device which was supposed to have calming pheromones, they proceeded to eat that as well :rofl:
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(I know this is a VERY long post but I had the same experience and felt utter dispair so hope some of this will be helpful.)
Having lost my gorgeous doggie to cancer this year, the OPs post brought back many memories of him as a pup... and I recognise the behaviour. My boy was a nightmare when I first had him. He was a rescue dog so hadnt had the best start in life. Two dog trainers, a police dog trainer and several prescriptions of valium later (for the dog not me although I was close to needing it) he still remained a complete lunatic. Even the snip did nothing to calm him. He ate my kitchen, the back door, got a taste for bitter apples and even chewed the doggie 'Stay Off' spray can. I gave up buying miracle cures... they didnt work and were a waste of money. My conclusion and how I coped and ended up with a wonderful obedient and amazing best friend: He's a dog. He has to be given time to learn. Like babies they dont know everything first off and it takes a lot of patience. Expect some damage unless you monitor the rooms he's allowed in. If its an open plan house... just make sure you have pet damage included in your insurance. Get into the habit of closing doors behind you. You have to change your behaviour too... dont leave food out that he can reach (my dog was seen running down our garden with a string of sausages when my husband turned his back to light the oven). Remove breakables from wagging tales. In the same way you would make a house child safe, you really have to make your home doggie safe. Lots of exercise... he is probably very intelligent and needs lots of stimulation and will enjoy walkies and training exercises. The latter can be a big help to you too - and its a bonding exercise and enables your son to assume head of pack. For instance if you have stairs and dont want him upstairs, spend 15 minutes a day training him to stay at the bottom whilst you go upstairs. It will take a bit of running up and down (good for the thighs) to start with but as long as you have some little treats (and you may need a few so make sure they are small or you'll end up with a weight problem too!!) he should learn pretty quickly. Socialise him... when someone comes to the door allow him to greet them, trying at the same time to get him to sit and not jump up. Dont push down on the spine though to make him sit - it can cause real damage. Your best to put your hand on his thigh/rump and gentle pull him toward you with the command. Train him to sit with a hand signal too.. very handy if they go deaf in later life or you need to command him silently. My dog hated the crate... REALLY hated it. It was better to put him in the garden to cool down after 5 minutes of craziness when he'd been running around the living room like the wall of death. Can your son build an outdoor run perhaps? He may never like the crate and you may be better to establish 'his' area in your sons and your own home. Can you lock him in the kitchen or a decent size room where he can have his bed, water, toys and perhaps a hard chew to keep him occupied. He will most probably sleep when you're out. He needs to know his boundaries. If you must use a crate leave the door open when you are all in the room... nonchalantly put treats in there so he goes in himself. Leave the door open if he does go in and lie down so he feels safe. It might be you cant use the crate though... especially if it is causing him distress. If he has structure and routine he'll gradually know when daddy is going out and that its nap time, and when daddy gets home its walkies etc etc. I'm no expert but I dont agree with crates... dogs are pack animals and want to be with the pack. They want to go where you go etc. That's just my opinion of course. If people want a pet out of sight out of mind...get a cat! It never worked for my dog... just made him very stressed and anxious... and then he was uncontrollable for a while so I stopped using it and he settled much more quickly in the room. His behaviour could also be him trying to establish himself in the pack. Its important he knows who the pack leader is within the family. In our family it was most definitely my husband. There are lots of tips like feeding them after you've eaten, not looking at them when you first get home etc... I've tried them all and they broke my heart and they didnt work anyway... but just like children they will grow out of it. Unfortunately any age of dog can cause havoc..... that is the joy of having a dog.. and hardwood floors are susceptible at any age due to the claws. Patience, determination, a bit of discipline, following the rules, structure and routine are whats needed....and thats just you! The dog will respond. He wants to respond. He wants to please you. It can be very confusing (again like a child) if different houses have different rules. You will never give him as much love and friendship as he will give you. Just keep at it and I promise all the acts of devastation, peeing up your CD player and digital tv stack, eating the new carpet, mud stains when you've just cleaned and every other prank and mishap will all cause a giggle later on xx |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by ukmouse
(Post 7918136)
(I know this is a VERY long post but I had the same experience and felt utter dispair so hope some of this will be helpful.)
Having lost my gorgeous doggie to cancer this year, the OPs post brought back many memories of him as a pup... and I recognise the behaviour. My boy was a nightmare when I first had him. He was a rescue dog so hadnt had the best start in life. Two dog trainers, a police dog trainer and several prescriptions of valium later (for the dog not me although I was close to needing it) he still remained a complete lunatic. Even the snip did nothing to calm him. He ate my kitchen, the back door, got a taste for bitter apples and even chewed the doggie 'Stay Off' spray can. I gave up buying miracle cures... they didnt work and were a waste of money. My conclusion and how I coped and ended up with a wonderful obedient and amazing best friend: He's a dog. He has to be given time to learn. Like babies they dont know everything first off and it takes a lot of patience. Expect some damage unless you monitor the rooms he's allowed in. If its an open plan house... just make sure you have pet damage included in your insurance. Get into the habit of closing doors behind you. You have to change your behaviour too... dont leave food out that he can reach (my dog was seen running down our garden with a string of sausages when my husband turned his back to light the oven). Remove breakables from wagging tales. In the same way you would make a house child safe, you really have to make your home doggie safe. Lots of exercise... he is probably very intelligent and needs lots of stimulation and will enjoy walkies and training exercises. The latter can be a big help to you too - and its a bonding exercise and enables your son to assume head of pack. For instance if you have stairs and dont want him upstairs, spend 15 minutes a day training him to stay at the bottom whilst you go upstairs. It will take a bit of running up and down (good for the thighs) to start with but as long as you have some little treats (and you may need a few so make sure they are small or you'll end up with a weight problem too!!) he should learn pretty quickly. Socialise him... when someone comes to the door allow him to greet them, trying at the same time to get him to sit and not jump up. Dont push down on the spine though to make him sit - it can cause real damage. Your best to put your hand on his thigh/rump and gentle pull him toward you with the command. Train him to sit with a hand signal too.. very handy if they go deaf in later life or you need to command him silently. My dog hated the crate... REALLY hated it. It was better to put him in the garden to cool down after 5 minutes of craziness when he'd been running around the living room like the wall of death. Can your son build an outdoor run perhaps? He may never like the crate and you may be better to establish 'his' area in your sons and your own home. Can you lock him in the kitchen or a decent size room where he can have his bed, water, toys and perhaps a hard chew to keep him occupied. He will most probably sleep when you're out. He needs to know his boundaries. If you must use a crate leave the door open when you are all in the room... nonchalantly put treats in there so he goes in himself. Leave the door open if he does go in and lie down so he feels safe. It might be you cant use the crate though... especially if it is causing him distress. If he has structure and routine he'll gradually know when daddy is going out and that its nap time, and when daddy gets home its walkies etc etc. I'm no expert but I dont agree with crates... dogs are pack animals and want to be with the pack. They want to go where you go etc. That's just my opinion of course. If people want a pet out of sight out of mind...get a cat! It never worked for my dog... just made him very stressed and anxious... and then he was uncontrollable for a while so I stopped using it and he settled much more quickly in the room. His behaviour could also be him trying to establish himself in the pack. Its important he knows who the pack leader is within the family. In our family it was most definitely my husband. There are lots of tips like feeding them after you've eaten, not looking at them when you first get home etc... I've tried them all and they broke my heart and they didnt work anyway... but just like children they will grow out of it. Unfortunately any age of dog can cause havoc..... that is the joy of having a dog.. and hardwood floors are susceptible at any age due to the claws. Patience, determination, a bit of discipline, following the rules, structure and routine are whats needed....and thats just you! The dog will respond. He wants to respond. He wants to please you. It can be very confusing (again like a child) if different houses have different rules. You will never give him as much love and friendship as he will give you. Just keep at it and I promise all the acts of devastation, peeing up your CD player and digital tv stack, eating the new carpet, mud stains when you've just cleaned and every other prank and mishap will all cause a giggle later on xx |
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I've had a few dogs and they've all loved their crates -( Scotty dog, collie cross and border terrier). They would/will go into them wagging their tails when commanded, "Go to your house!"
However, they can never be a place of punishment, only sancturary, safety and reward. I trained them by not locking the door at first, and by feeding them in the crate as DBD has suggested. Crates seem to replicate the dens that wild dogs will dig, and though they seem confining to us, they offer offer security and peace of mind to dogs. And even though pack animals, they will den down by themselves. Good luck. It takes time to build trust with an intelligent dog.:fingerscrossed: |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by ukmouse
(Post 7918136)
(I know this is a VERY long post but I had the same experience and felt utter dispair so hope some of this will be helpful.)
Having lost my gorgeous doggie to cancer this year, the OPs post brought back many memories of him as a pup... and I recognise the behaviour. My boy was a nightmare when I first had him. He was a rescue dog so hadnt had the best start in life. Two dog trainers, a police dog trainer and several prescriptions of valium later (for the dog not me although I was close to needing it) he still remained a complete lunatic. Even the snip did nothing to calm him. He ate my kitchen, the back door, got a taste for bitter apples and even chewed the doggie 'Stay Off' spray can. I gave up buying miracle cures... they didnt work and were a waste of money. My conclusion and how I coped and ended up with a wonderful obedient and amazing best friend: He's a dog. He has to be given time to learn. Like babies they dont know everything first off and it takes a lot of patience. Expect some damage unless you monitor the rooms he's allowed in. If its an open plan house... just make sure you have pet damage included in your insurance. Get into the habit of closing doors behind you. You have to change your behaviour too... dont leave food out that he can reach (my dog was seen running down our garden with a string of sausages when my husband turned his back to light the oven). Remove breakables from wagging tales. In the same way you would make a house child safe, you really have to make your home doggie safe. Lots of exercise... he is probably very intelligent and needs lots of stimulation and will enjoy walkies and training exercises. The latter can be a big help to you too - and its a bonding exercise and enables your son to assume head of pack. For instance if you have stairs and dont want him upstairs, spend 15 minutes a day training him to stay at the bottom whilst you go upstairs. It will take a bit of running up and down (good for the thighs) to start with but as long as you have some little treats (and you may need a few so make sure they are small or you'll end up with a weight problem too!!) he should learn pretty quickly. Socialise him... when someone comes to the door allow him to greet them, trying at the same time to get him to sit and not jump up. Dont push down on the spine though to make him sit - it can cause real damage. Your best to put your hand on his thigh/rump and gentle pull him toward you with the command. Train him to sit with a hand signal too.. very handy if they go deaf in later life or you need to command him silently. My dog hated the crate... REALLY hated it. It was better to put him in the garden to cool down after 5 minutes of craziness when he'd been running around the living room like the wall of death. Can your son build an outdoor run perhaps? He may never like the crate and you may be better to establish 'his' area in your sons and your own home. Can you lock him in the kitchen or a decent size room where he can have his bed, water, toys and perhaps a hard chew to keep him occupied. He will most probably sleep when you're out. He needs to know his boundaries. If you must use a crate leave the door open when you are all in the room... nonchalantly put treats in there so he goes in himself. Leave the door open if he does go in and lie down so he feels safe. It might be you cant use the crate though... especially if it is causing him distress. If he has structure and routine he'll gradually know when daddy is going out and that its nap time, and when daddy gets home its walkies etc etc. I'm no expert but I dont agree with crates... dogs are pack animals and want to be with the pack. They want to go where you go etc. That's just my opinion of course. If people want a pet out of sight out of mind...get a cat! It never worked for my dog... just made him very stressed and anxious... and then he was uncontrollable for a while so I stopped using it and he settled much more quickly in the room. His behaviour could also be him trying to establish himself in the pack. Its important he knows who the pack leader is within the family. In our family it was most definitely my husband. There are lots of tips like feeding them after you've eaten, not looking at them when you first get home etc... I've tried them all and they broke my heart and they didnt work anyway... but just like children they will grow out of it. Unfortunately any age of dog can cause havoc..... that is the joy of having a dog.. and hardwood floors are susceptible at any age due to the claws. Patience, determination, a bit of discipline, following the rules, structure and routine are whats needed....and thats just you! The dog will respond. He wants to respond. He wants to please you. It can be very confusing (again like a child) if different houses have different rules. You will never give him as much love and friendship as he will give you. Just keep at it and I promise all the acts of devastation, peeing up your CD player and digital tv stack, eating the new carpet, mud stains when you've just cleaned and every other prank and mishap will all cause a giggle later on xx Put an old article of your clothing in the crate as part of the dog's bedding. It will have your scent on it and is therefore supposed to be comforting to the dog. You could also try the chew toys which contain treats. I've never used them but it's supposed to be a good way of keeping your dog occupied when you're gone. As others have said...make the crate a fun/safe place where your dog feels secure. Never send or put him/her into his crate for being naughty. IMO it's much safer for the dog to be crated...one of my dobermans died because she chewed and swallowed part of a mat by the door. |
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We crated our German Shepherd as a pup and she soon settled in it. We left it open when we was in and she would go in and out of it at her own pace and many times went in there to sleep and to the best of our knowledge was fine when we went out. this picture was taken just after we arrived here in Canada and the box was one we used for our smallest dog and she claimed this as hers within hours of arriving
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Get him a girlfriend.
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7918052)
It must do. Does Charlie eat at the same time?
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personally I think it is cruel to keep a dog locked up in a crate all day, our dog has had the run of the house since bringing him home at 10 weeks.
He's had plenty of accidents but never been destructive. This video may help your Son http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B603qpXYBv4 |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 7918457)
personally I think it is cruel to keep a dog locked up in a crate all day, our dog has had the run of the house since bringing him home at 10 weeks.
He's had plenty of accidents but never been destructive. This video may help your Son http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B603qpXYBv4 Sounds like the OP's son bought the dog without thinking it through. :( |
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 7918471)
Sounds like the OP's son bought the dog without thinking it through. :( |
Re: Question for the dog people
Hi Purley,
We had a problem with Henry and his crate too, we put him in the crate and he cried and cried - after a while we let him have the run of the laundry room downstairs - until he was too big and heavy to take downstairs, it was a full two weeks before I owned up to hubby that I was leaving Henry upstairs and letting him roam free:rofl: We put Henry in his crate going in the car, he cried, let him get comfy in the back, not a peep. Fact is he did not like his crate, he did not being shut in the laundry room and now refuses point blank to go down the stairs. He was I suppose 4-6 months old when we let him have his freedom, we had a few andrex moments and a couple of flip flops had a few bite marks and some socks/pants found their way into the living room from the laundry basket but that is as dreadful as it got. Could be that your sons pupster has the same mindset as Henry. Hope you find a solution. Just a thought, is the crate one of those that can have the roof taken off? Can the puppy get out without the roof one? may be worth a try. |
Re: Question for the dog people
He can't go for walks yet until he gets his last set of shots on September 20th. My son has tried the treats in the crate. He always gives him his food and water in his crate. He has toys in his crate.
My son did think about it for a long time. He had to wait to get a new fence. But although I have had lots of different dogs I never had a problem with crating them. My Golden was this age when I got her and she went in the crate, without objecting and never cried. I had told him that I thought his dog, being part Golden, would accept the crate easily!! Of course, it would be cruel to leave a dog in a crate all day!!!! I guess people don't read the posts correctly. I said my son wants to leave the dog so he can go shopping!!! Its mainly ME that doesn't want the dog to have the run of MY house - and he has to come here because he howls and cries when my son leaves the house whether the dog is crated or not. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by mandymoochops
(Post 7917856)
Sorry Purley - no advice but a wonderful mental picutre of you creeping up on the dog :rofl:
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Purley
(Post 7918560)
He can't go for walks yet until he gets his last set of shots on September 20th. My son has tried the treats in the crate. He always gives him his food and water in his crate. He has toys in his crate.
My son did think about it for a long time. He had to wait to get a new fence. But although I have had lots of different dogs I never had a problem with crating them. My Golden was this age when I got her and she went in the crate, without objecting and never cried. I had told him that I thought his dog, being part Golden, would accept the crate easily!! Of course, it would be cruel to leave a dog in a crate all day!!!! I guess people don't read the posts correctly. I said my son wants to leave the dog so he can go shopping!!! Its mainly ME that doesn't want the dog to have the run of MY house - and he has to come here because he howls and cries when my son leaves the house whether the dog is crated or not. Hopefully the dog will grow out of this behaviour :fingerscrossed:...but sometimes they don't. |
Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 7918594)
What I meant about my comment re him not thinking it through...was choosing the breed. From what you've said I think a smaller more placid breed would have been better...less noise, damage, they don't need as much room or exercise.
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Re: Question for the dog people
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 7918613)
I don't think I agree with this. We have a poodle/golden retriever cross and while he's a large dog he's calm and not in need of a vast amount of exercise. He was managable even as a puppy (apart from the relentless humping which I suppose I rather admire). We also have a smallish dog, a Red and White Setter, that dog needs hours of running and swimming before seeming even slightly worn and is a whirlwind of devastation around the house. I'm more inclined to think that, if you can't cope with a poodle/retriever, you can't cope with any dog.
We bought a Boston Terrier because we thought a smaller dog would be calmer, require less exercise and generally be easier to handle than our previous field bred English Springer Spaniel. Not so, this little bugger is a boisterous sod, even with his nuts chopped off. Our Springer had his nuts intact and never ever humped, our Boston humps with them off. He isn't destructive, he just likes jumping up and annoying people. My friend has a 10 month old Cane Corso, huge scary looking dog, and he is as calm as they come? |
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