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Souvy Oct 6th 2011 2:50 am

Question about A-levels
 
This is really aimed at people still in the UK with kids of the appropriate age.

I have a son back in the UK. He's in his GCSE year and starting to think about A-levels. He seems to have a notion that is normal to do four. In my day it was three, unless you were very bright. Have things changed?

Tangram Oct 6th 2011 2:58 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 9661236)
This is really aimed at people still in the UK with kids of the appropriate age.

I have a son back in the UK. He's in his GCSE year and starting to think about A-levels. He seems to have a notion that is normal to do four. In my day it was three, unless you were very bright. Have things changed?

My day ( 80's ) we did three plus General Studies A Level.

christmasoompa Oct 6th 2011 3:04 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 
From my understanding (limited and only from speaking to teenage relatives and neighbours), the norm these days is to start out studying 4 subjects, but to then drop your weakest one after AS level, so in essence you end up with 3.5 A levels (3 full A levels and 1 AS).

HTH.

Souvy Oct 6th 2011 4:29 am

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All grist to the mill. Thanks to both of you.

Atlantic Xpat Oct 6th 2011 5:00 am

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 9661251)
My day ( 80's ) we did three plus General Studies A Level.

But that was back when A levels were difficult;) I too did 3 A levels and I suspect Souvy is of a similar vintage.

Souvy Oct 6th 2011 5:57 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 9661488)
But that was back when A levels were difficult;) I too did 3 A levels and I suspect Souvy is of a similar vintage.

1963 was a good year.

When I did my maths O-level, you couldn't use a calculator. For the A-level (maths/statistics) you could but you still had to show the working. It was the same for the first two years of my degree.

dbd33 Oct 6th 2011 6:03 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 9661584)
1963 was a good year.

Did they even have O levels in 1963?

JonboyE Oct 6th 2011 6:31 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 
I seem to remember that we were allowed to use slide rules (though I'm damned if I could use one now). I also seem to remember that most of the marks were for the workings. You would fail if you just wrote down all the correct answers.

I took 3 A levels and 1 AS.

Souvy Oct 6th 2011 6:49 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9661592)
Did they even have O levels in 1963?

Not sure. I didn't sit them straight out of the womb. In fact, I didn't sit them until 1978, 1979, 1980 and 1982.

Souvy Oct 6th 2011 7:03 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 9661648)
I seem to remember that we were allowed to use slide rules (though I'm damned if I could use one now). I also seem to remember that most of the marks were for the workings. You would fail if you just wrote down all the correct answers.

I took 3 A levels and 1 AS.

Slide rules? There's posh. I think we had log tables. I would not know what to do with one these days.

What you say reminds me of one infamous maths exam during my degree. It was a three-hour exam, based on one set of data that went through a series of analyses of increasing complexity involving lots of Greek letters. The end result was a single number, to two decimal places. There were only two possible marks on that test; 100% or 0%. You got no marks for the workings. Not many people got 100%.

Almost Canadian Oct 6th 2011 8:55 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 9661692)
Slide rules? There's posh. I think we had log tables. I would not know what to do with one these days.

What you say reminds me of one infamous maths exam during my degree. It was a three-hour exam, based on one set of data that went through a series of analyses of increasing complexity involving lots of Greek letters. The end result was a single number, to two decimal places. There were only two possible marks on that test; 100% or 0%. You got no marks for the workings. Not many people got 100%.

Were you one of them?

ireland2canada Oct 6th 2011 9:00 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 9661692)

What you say reminds me of one infamous maths exam during my degree. It was a three-hour exam, based on one set of data that went through a series of analyses of increasing complexity involving lots of Greek letters. The end result was a single number, to two decimal places. There were only two possible marks on that test; 100% or 0%. You got no marks for the workings. Not many people got 100%.

Without putting too fine a point on it, WTF is the use in being able to do that?

Novocastrian Oct 6th 2011 9:03 am

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Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9661894)
Without putting too fine a point on it, WTF is the use in being able to do that?

I know, only 2 decimal places. I mean really!

Jingsamichty Oct 6th 2011 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9661898)
I know, only 2 decimal places. I mean really!

I'll bet that answer was 3.14. That's a pretty famous maths number to 2 decimal places, I can't think of any others?

Alan2005 Oct 6th 2011 9:15 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9661908)
I'll bet that answer was 3.14. That's a pretty famous maths number to 2 decimal places, I can't think of any others?

2.72, or 1.62?

jimf Oct 6th 2011 9:23 am

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Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9661894)
Without putting too fine a point on it, WTF is the use in being able to do that?

Next time you travel in a plane just consider whether or not the person who did the finite element analysis on the blades usually gets the correct answer!

Jingsamichty Oct 6th 2011 9:36 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9661913)
2.72, or 1.62?

Are they famous enough to be the answers to a maths quiz?

Lorna at Vicenza Oct 6th 2011 9:41 am

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3 "big" A levels at my grammar. General studies as a fourth but only if the teachers thought you could cope with it. And I'm a late 1980's A level girl.

Novocastrian Oct 6th 2011 9:42 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9661908)
I'll bet that answer was 3.14. That's a pretty famous maths number to 2 decimal places, I can't think of any others?

All greek to me.

Alan2005 Oct 6th 2011 10:03 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9661948)
Are they famous enough to be the answers to a maths quiz?

They should be to maths people. I only got a richard and I know them.

Edit: One is e and the other is the golden ratio.

Novocastrian Oct 6th 2011 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9661998)
They should be to maths people. I only got a richard and I know them.

I haven't heard that term for a long time. Might one ask where from?

Alan2005 Oct 6th 2011 10:15 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9662000)
I haven't heard that term for a long time. Might one ask where from?

Sure. I did maths at Southampton uni.

Novocastrian Oct 6th 2011 10:47 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9662017)
Sure. I did maths at Southampton uni.

Just curious, I'm quite sure I would've done a richard in pure maths anywhere. I honestly believe its the most challenging undergraduate degree of them all.

I knew lots of kids who were whizzes at A level but couldn't deal with the conceptual/abstract/multidimensional thinking at uni.

I've mentioned that I'm a simple chemist.

Atlantic Xpat Oct 6th 2011 11:35 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9662093)
I've mentioned that I'm a simple chemist.

Can you fill prescriptions?

Novocastrian Oct 6th 2011 12:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 9662207)
Can you fill prescriptions?

I believe you'll find that even on the Rock that is the prerogative of pharmacists.

lmartin999 Oct 7th 2011 11:51 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 
I recall I did five. My grades suggested I preferred quantity over quality. In one subject I received an O, which I always felt was a particularly patronising grade. I believe it indicated something akin to 15%.

Oakvillian Oct 7th 2011 2:18 pm

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9663740)
I recall I did five. My grades suggested I preferred quantity over quality. In one subject I received an O, which I always felt was a particularly patronising grade. I believe it indicated something akin to 15%.

I did four, but in typical geek style they were maths, "additional maths," physics and chemistry. I was going to do English, French, German and Latin but reckoned that was just too much reading and essay-writing for one lazy sod to accomplish over two years. I took the S papers in maths and physics - not quite sure why, but it seemed sensible advice at the time from the teachers. All seemed a bit of a waste of time, since I'd already received an effectively unconditional offer after sitting university entrance exams, but if nothing else they did prepare somewhat for the level of maths required beyond the first term of undergraduate studies.

singingringingtree Oct 7th 2011 7:58 pm

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 9661236)
This is really aimed at people still in the UK with kids of the appropriate age.

I have a son back in the UK. He's in his GCSE year and starting to think about A-levels. He seems to have a notion that is normal to do four. In my day it was three, unless you were very bright. Have things changed?

My daughter doing A2 at a Sixth Form College and wanted to do four AS levels, but they told her she had to do five and was allowed to drop one for A2. We spoke to a friend who works at the college and he said it was so that the college could get full funding.

Novocastrian Oct 8th 2011 1:34 pm

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 9663874)
I did four, but in typical geek style they were maths, "additional maths," physics and chemistry.

Geek style? That's pretty much what I did, except plus "S" levels in Physics & Chem on top.

Geek style? Well, really!!

Oakvillian Oct 10th 2011 4:17 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9665249)
Geek style? That's pretty much what I did, except plus "S" levels in Physics & Chem on top.

Geek style? Well, really!!

Well you, Sir, and I, Sir, are probably what would in these modern times be considered geeks. Despite all evidence to the contrary with your worldly ways and polyglot cosmopolitan lifestyle, your chosen profession is pretty much the definition of geekery in some people's eyes... ;)

My S-level papers were in maths and physics - didn't to chemistry S as it was my weaker subject and the powers that be suggested two Ss would suffice.

Little D Oct 10th 2011 8:09 am

Re: Question about A-levels
 
My daughter did four plus general studies and some kind of extended project that was the equivalent of an AS I think.

Novocastrian Oct 10th 2011 1:45 pm

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 9667574)
Well you, Sir, and I, Sir, are probably what would in these modern times be considered geeks. Despite all evidence to the contrary with your worldly ways and polyglot cosmopolitan lifestyle, your chosen profession is pretty much the definition of geekery in some people's eyes... ;)

A geek, Sir, is someone who has never experienced, and is likely incapable of experiencing, the beautiful nuances of humanity and its varied cultures. One who's heart has never roared with desire and throbbed with sympathy for the downtrodden. A creature of pimples, slide rules, masturbation and numbing loneliness.

His A-levels are hardly relevant.

<you still on for Friday?>

mandymoochops Oct 11th 2011 11:10 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9668280)
A geek, Sir, is someone who has never experienced, and is likely incapable of experiencing, the beautiful nuances of humanity and its varied cultures. One who's heart has never roared with desire and throbbed with sympathy for the downtrodden. A creature of pimples, slide rules, masturbation and numbing loneliness.

His A-levels are hardly relevant.

<you still on for Friday?>

they have greasy hair - normally - too. I don't know where they get that from, other than eating bacon butties, masturbating and running their hands through their barnet.

Oakvillian Oct 11th 2011 2:00 pm

Re: Question about A-levels
 

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 9670070)
they have greasy hair - normally - too. I don't know where they get that from, other than eating bacon butties, masturbating and running their hands through their barnet.

Bleeuugh... all at the same time? That would require a level of dexterity - or absent-mindedness - that I am grateful not to have achieved...

mandymoochops Oct 11th 2011 2:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 9670269)
Bleeuugh... all at the same time? That would require a level of dexterity - or absent-mindedness - that I am grateful not to have achieved...

Thats why they are geeks, they can do stuff like that <nods head>.


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