Quadruple punctuation
#16
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Punctuation is part of grammar, so here's another question for the Grammar Police.
Earlier in this thread I typed "an habitual..." - what are the rules for using either "a" or "an" in front of a word beginning with either a vowel or the letter "h"?
For example:
An hotel
A hospital
An holistic approach
A horrible evening
An unusual choice
A university
etc.
Or does it just boil down to 'whatever sounds correct, is correct'?
Earlier in this thread I typed "an habitual..." - what are the rules for using either "a" or "an" in front of a word beginning with either a vowel or the letter "h"?
For example:
An hotel
A hospital
An holistic approach
A horrible evening
An unusual choice
A university
etc.
Or does it just boil down to 'whatever sounds correct, is correct'?
#17
My Nan taught me that it was based on the spelling of the first letter. If it was a vowel then use "an", otherwise use 'a'. 'H', being spelled 'aitch' meant I had to use 'an' in front of words beginning with 'h'.
It's probably more complicated than that, more than my attention span stretches to...
It's probably more complicated than that, more than my attention span stretches to...
Punctuation is part of grammar, so here's another question for the Grammar Police.
Earlier in this thread I typed "an habitual..." - what are the rules for using either "a" or "an" in front of a word beginning with either a vowel or the letter "h"?
For example:
An hotel
A hospital
An holistic approach
A horrible evening
An unusual choice
A university
etc.
Or does it just boil down to 'whatever sounds correct, is correct'?
Earlier in this thread I typed "an habitual..." - what are the rules for using either "a" or "an" in front of a word beginning with either a vowel or the letter "h"?
For example:
An hotel
A hospital
An holistic approach
A horrible evening
An unusual choice
A university
etc.
Or does it just boil down to 'whatever sounds correct, is correct'?
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Punctuation is part of grammar, so here's another question for the Grammar Police.
Earlier in this thread I typed "an habitual..." - what are the rules for using either "a" or "an" in front of a word beginning with either a vowel or the letter "h"?
For example:
An hotel
A hospital
An holistic approach
A horrible evening
An unusual choice
A university
etc.
Or does it just boil down to 'whatever sounds correct, is correct'?
Earlier in this thread I typed "an habitual..." - what are the rules for using either "a" or "an" in front of a word beginning with either a vowel or the letter "h"?
For example:
An hotel
A hospital
An holistic approach
A horrible evening
An unusual choice
A university
etc.
Or does it just boil down to 'whatever sounds correct, is correct'?
A hockey game or an 'ockey game?
#19
Punctuation is part of grammar, so here's another question for the Grammar Police.
Earlier in this thread I typed "an habitual..." - what are the rules for using either "a" or "an" in front of a word beginning with either a vowel or the letter "h"?
For example:
An hotel
A hospital
An holistic approach
A horrible evening
An unusual choice
A university
etc.
Or does it just boil down to 'whatever sounds correct, is correct'?
Earlier in this thread I typed "an habitual..." - what are the rules for using either "a" or "an" in front of a word beginning with either a vowel or the letter "h"?
For example:
An hotel
A hospital
An holistic approach
A horrible evening
An unusual choice
A university
etc.
Or does it just boil down to 'whatever sounds correct, is correct'?
Now that leaves something to be desired as a guide to someone learning English as a second language or to children with accents!!!
#20
Also, isn't the use of etc another way of saying "i really have nothing more to add but maybe this looks like i do"?
Cos that's why i use it
Cos that's why i use it
Last edited by el_richo; Jun 14th 2011 at 12:49 pm.
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Not really - I use it if I cant be arsed writing out valves , fittings , adapters, plugs and flanges when I can just write - Valves etc
#22
yay!!! 
ironic [aɪˈrɒnɪk], ironical
adj
of, characterized by, or using irony
ironicalness n
ironic - Something is ironic if the result is the opposite of what was intended; an ironic event is an incongruous event, one at odds with what might have been expected.
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003...

ironic [aɪˈrɒnɪk], ironical
adj
of, characterized by, or using irony
ironicalness n
ironic - Something is ironic if the result is the opposite of what was intended; an ironic event is an incongruous event, one at odds with what might have been expected.
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003...
#25
I am with all on this one. Anymore than 3 "..." is greedy.
Slightly on topic - You're v Your when shortening from "you are" drives me up the proverbial wall.
#26
My Nan taught me that it was based on the spelling of the first letter. If it was a vowel then use "an", otherwise use 'a'. 'H', being spelled 'aitch' meant I had to use 'an' in front of words beginning with 'h'.
It's probably more complicated than that, more than my attention span stretches to...
It's probably more complicated than that, more than my attention span stretches to...
E.g. instead of asking, "Let's find a/an hotel", I would gracefully dodge the dilemma by saying, "Let's find a fkn hotel." That way, people won't look down on you for poor grammar.
#27
One can avoid making such faux-pas by inserting an adjective beginning with a consonant, thus rendering the conundrum void:
E.g. instead of asking, "Let's find a/an hotel", I would gracefully dodge the dilemma by saying, "Let's find a fkn hotel." That way, people won't look down on you for poor grammar.
E.g. instead of asking, "Let's find a/an hotel", I would gracefully dodge the dilemma by saying, "Let's find a fkn hotel." That way, people won't look down on you for poor grammar.
#28
Google Chrome users can install afterthedeadline, an add-on, that checks and corrects grammar and spelling (it works on expats, I just tried it, and it also works on blog sites, twitter, Facebook etc).
It told me that "An hotel" should be "a hotel". It told me that "should be" is in passive voice and should be in active voice. It also told me that the correct cliche is cliché and it even offered to fix that for me.
I think I like it.
It told me that "An hotel" should be "a hotel". It told me that "should be" is in passive voice and should be in active voice. It also told me that the correct cliche is cliché and it even offered to fix that for me.
I think I like it.
#29
Google Chrome users can install afterthedeadline, an add-on, that checks and corrects grammar and spelling (it works on expats, I just tried it, and it also works on blog sites, twitter, Facebook etc).
It told me that "An hotel" should be "a hotel". It told me that "should be" is in passive voice and should be in active voice. It also told me that the correct cliche is cliché and it even offered to fix that for me.
I think I like it.
It told me that "An hotel" should be "a hotel". It told me that "should be" is in passive voice and should be in active voice. It also told me that the correct cliche is cliché and it even offered to fix that for me.
I think I like it.
#30
You'll be happy to know that it reported no errors (grammatical or spelling) in your reply (well, apart from the "should be" passive issue).
Now, if only it had a button that expands txt speak into English and a "Dumb Down" feature that could convert stuff like that in your reply, and everything DBD33 says, into something I can actually and easily understand.
Now, if only it had a button that expands txt speak into English and a "Dumb Down" feature that could convert stuff like that in your reply, and everything DBD33 says, into something I can actually and easily understand.
If it told you "should be" is in passive voice, it's talking out of an inappropriate orifice. "Should" is a modal verb, expressing obligation or expectation, and is absolutely in the active voice (though, strictly, also in the subjunctive mood since it's an indirect quotation). Strip out both the obligation and the reported speech, and the sentence becomes "An hotel is a hotel." Seems pretty active to me.




