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Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 12766090)
Victoria Roberts/Giuffre was about 12 years old when she worked at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. She was about 14 or 15 when she first met Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, and was 15 when she became sexually involved with him... this much was told to the FBI in 2013.
https://www.insider.com/epstein-accu...festyle-2019-8 It appears beyond doubt that Prince Andrew was a regular visitor to Epstein who was well-known for hosting sex parties with girls like Giuffre on the menu. Prince Andrew was photographed with Giuffre at Maxwell's house. It is a matter of fact that Epstein admitted to, and was convicted of, procuring underage girls for prostitution. How many people do you know who are notorious procurers of underage girls for prostitution? I'm sure it's none, but if you did know one, would you go to his house and cuddle young girls? Would you go to his house for 4 days after he came out of jail for procuring underage girls for prostitution? You are, of course, perfectly entitled to believe Prince Andrew did no wrong. But we are entitled to question your judgement of what is proper, or right, or legal, based on your stated opinions. For what it's worth, I think you are being deliberately obstructive just for reasons of BE sport. I don't actually think that you, as a parent to young women, believe that Prince Andrew's behaviour is anything other than abhorrent and obscenely entitled. |
Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 12766090)
Victoria Roberts/Giuffre was about 12 years old when she worked at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. She was about 14 or 15 when she first met Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, and was 15 when she became sexually involved with him... this much was told to the FBI in 2013.
https://www.insider.com/epstein-accu...festyle-2019-8 It appears beyond doubt that Prince Andrew was a regular visitor to Epstein who was well-known for hosting sex parties with girls like Giuffre on the menu. Prince Andrew was photographed with Giuffre at Maxwell's house. It is a matter of fact that Epstein admitted to, and was convicted of, procuring underage girls for prostitution. How many people do you know who are notorious procurers of underage girls for prostitution? I'm sure it's none, but if you did know one, would you go to his house and cuddle young girls? Would you go to his house for 4 days after he came out of jail for procuring underage girls for prostitution? You are, of course, perfectly entitled to believe Prince Andrew did no wrong. But we are entitled to question your judgement of what is proper, or right, or legal, based on your stated opinions. For what it's worth, I think you are being deliberately obstructive just for reasons of BE sport. I don't actually think that you, as a parent to young women, believe that Prince Andrew's behaviour is anything other than abhorrent and obscenely entitled. |
Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 12766092)
I suggest we leave it there.
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Re: Prince Andrew
Royal/Celeb that's a bit bent; not the first and probably not the last. Human failings don't discriminate along class lines.
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Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by MillieF
(Post 12765843)
I am sick of work colleagues having a giggle at our cock-ups, . |
Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by caretaker
(Post 12766110)
Human failings don't discriminate along class lines.
Joe public accused of visiting a pimp to meet young lady and the rozzers interrogate pimp and Joe ends up in clink. Royal accused of visiting pimp to meet young lady and rozzers mysteriously let pimp hang himself. |
Re: Prince Andrew
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Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by dave_j
(Post 12766343)
I'm afraid they do.
Joe public accused of visiting a pimp to meet young lady and the rozzers interrogate pimp and Joe ends up in clink. Royal accused of visiting pimp to meet young lady and rozzers mysteriously let pimp hang himself. |
Re: Prince Andrew
I wonder if HRH Prince Andrew will be escorting Trump when he visits the UK in 2 weeks time? He might find himself unexpectedly visiting the Falklands to check on the pheasant population. I dont suppose he would suffer any adrenaline problems.
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Re: Prince Andrew
I think it's about a dozen or so organisations now who have cut ties with him.
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Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 12766507)
I think it's about a dozen or so organisations now who have cut ties with him.
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Re: Prince Andrew
This is one of those stories that makes me hate the world, so I have tried not to pay too much attention. I only found out yesterday that Ghislaine Maxwell is Robert Maxwell’s daughter. Prince Andrew is not the only one warped by his family circumstances perhaps. (on a side note I would very much like to apply to be a ‘socialite’, does anyone know where vacancies are advertised? I promise not to be corrupted.) |
Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5
(Post 12766588)
This is one of those stories that makes me hate the world, so I have tried not to pay too much attention. I only found out yesterday that Ghislaine Maxwell is Robert Maxwell’s daughter. Prince Andrew is not the only one warped by his family circumstances perhaps. (on a side note I would very much like to apply to be a ‘socialite’, does anyone know where vacancies are advertised? I promise not to be corrupted.) |
Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by caretaker
(Post 12766472)
Joe public and the Royal share the same human failing. Not the same thing as inequality under the legal system.
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Re: Prince Andrew
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 12766552)
I don't recall reading accusations of bondage too. :lol:
The oh so honourable prince couldn't even tell the truth about when he met Epstein. If he lied about something like this in the interview, I don't think it's unreasonable to suspect he may have lied about other things. He was very specific about meeting Epstein in 1999 through his girlfriend. A letter written to the Times newspaper by Buckingham Palace has cast doubt on when the Duke of York first met convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The 2011 letter says they met in the early 1990s, not in 1999 as Prince Andrew said in his BBC interview. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50487104 |
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