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Old Aug 11th 2007 | 3:08 pm
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Going back to name-thing in Quebec I just wanted to check if I understood this right.....On marriage neither hubby nor wife change their last names, but the kids get double barrelled names?

So, in a few generations won't everyone in Quebec have extreeeeeeeemely long last names?

e.g.
Mr Jones marries Miss Smith, their kid is called Jane Smith-Jones

and

Mr Thomas marries Miss Peters, thier kid is called Paul Thomas-Peters.

Then

Jane Smith-Jones meets and marries Paul Thomas-Peters, they have a child called Sarah Smith-Jones-Thomas-Peters.

OMG!
 
Old Aug 11th 2007 | 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by JimandNic
Going back to name-thing in Quebec I just wanted to check if I understood this right.....On marriage neither hubby nor wife change their last names, but the kids get double barrelled names?

So, in a few generations won't everyone in Quebec have extreeeeeeeemely long last names?

e.g.
Mr Jones marries Miss Smith, their kid is called Jane Smith-Jones

and

Mr Thomas marries Miss Peters, thier kid is called Paul Thomas-Peters.

Then

Jane Smith-Jones meets and marries Paul Thomas-Peters, they have a child called Sarah Smith-Jones-Thomas-Peters.

OMG!
Exactly .

That had been my impression also when they changed the law in the early eighties. However in practice I am told it works out that the kids will usually carry double-barreled names but it always stays at two. No geometric progression. Exactly how the mechanics work I do not know. The change in the law was stupid and unnecessary to begin with .. sadly enough the now under thirty crowd accept it as they have never known different.
 
Old Aug 11th 2007 | 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveTheCat
Hm. Interesting. Last year, in Quebec, a young Sikh won a legal battle and he was finally allowed to carry a concealed weapon - a dagger - at school. Religious thingie, ya know. Initially, the school staff had said a dagger (religious symbol or not) has no place in a school; later, the Supreme Court decided he could merrily carry it around - it was a matter of religious freedom it seems.

So it goes, as one of my favourite authors used to say.
There were quite a few parents who were initially scandalised that a kid could carry a kirpan to school. It probably doesn't qualify as a weapn but I guess could cause some damage if furiously unleashed in case some little sikh went berserk. Thank God it was amicably resolved as the eventual solution was that the kirpan had to concealed and stitched into the kid's clothing. So if some sikh youngster went bananas it wouldn't automatically mean instant wounding, blood, guts spilled all over the place or death. The whole thing was overblown to begin with.

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Old Aug 11th 2007 | 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveTheCat
This sad joke is still circulating in Quebec City, AD 2007. Governmental city, you know...
I have no doubt that that is reality. Ottawa is no different.
 
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Yes.
I must have read every one of his books. Absolutely brilliant author. That was ages ago. I probably could re-read each and every one.
 
Old Aug 11th 2007 | 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Alvic
When we got married I was proud to take my husbands surname. Not just because of tradition but also my Christian views. When a man and woman marry they leave the family home and make a new family of their own and join as one union forsaking all others. With the man as the head of the family unit(from a Christian view) it is only right that the wife should take his name and not the other way roud. IMHO.
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Old Aug 11th 2007 | 4:29 pm
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I must have read every one of his books. Absolutely brilliant author. That was ages ago. I probably could re-read each and every one.
Off subject I know but I just got in from seeing Soul City at the Caledonia Theater near Atwater Market. Took the kids and they just loved it .. you will dance and dance. Anyway, just wanted you to know that. I am still all hyper from it. Go if you get a chance and any other Montrealers or visitors to this City.
 
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Off subject I know but I just got in from seeing Soul City at the Caledonia Theater near Atwater Market. Took the kids and they just loved it .. you will dance and dance. Anyway, just wanted you to know that. I am still all hyper from it. Go if you get a chance and any other Montrealers or visitors to this City.
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So - things are still not perfect - but they are definitely better with regard to women in the workforce than they were 40 years ago.
 
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Originally Posted by zalaben

Good idea, but....

.... my name is unusual with 10 letters and has 3 syllables and OH has an unusual name and it would be quite a mouthful.....

I solve things with a cheery "call me <christian name>" as people struggle with my name as it is!!
Hi all I usually hang out in other parts of the forums.

Just wanted to throw a wee spanner in the works.... "Christian Name" has not been used on forms in Australia for nearly 20 years. Im not a Christian, so how can I have a Christian name? Whenever Im asked this question - if I'm in the mood for some mischief I just reply with "oh no, Im not a Christian".

I would also like to say that I could not forsee me ever taking anyone else's name, and I think that it's disgraceful that Quebecoises (is that the right word?) dont have the right to do so.
 
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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray
Oh heck, now we have religion in it!

I respect your beliefs of course but where does it say that man is in charge?

IMO, I never ever would want to belong to a religion/group/party/etc that says I am inferior just because I am female/a northener/english/common/etc
Batty is it my perrogative to bring Christianinity into the discussion. I dont agree with any of the other comments but I did not say "Oh heck now we have such an such....."

It clearly states in the Bible that the man is the head of the family and the wife - and the wife is to be in submission to her husband and the children in submission and obedience to their parents and this system does make for a happy home - but only if the father/husband is also a God fearing Christian and treats his wife with love and respect. It does not give a man the go ahead to be a bully in the home or to abuse his position as head. Hence the words to "love honour and obey" in marriage vows.

It is not saying that women are inferior, this is how God created the order of life, even in the animal kingdom, take a pack of wolves or dogs or lions, tigers etc etc the male is the dominant creature.

I also can respect women who dont agree with me as this is also their rightful choice in their own eyes.
 
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Originally Posted by zalaben
what century were you born in?
A lot of young people are born agian Christians zalaben. It is not just for golden oldies
 
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Originally Posted by Alvic
It clearly states in the Bible that the man is the head of the family and the wife - and the wife is to be in submission to her husband and the children in submission and obedience to their parents and this system does make for a happy home - but only if the father/husband is also a God fearing Christian and treats his wife with love and respect. It does not give a man the go ahead to be a bully in the home or to abuse his position as head. Hence the words to "love honour and obey" in marriage vows.



I think my head is going to explode... and I'll pass on the religious discussion but....


Originally Posted by Alvic
It is not saying that women are inferior, this is how God created the order of life, even in the animal kingdom, take a pack of wolves or dogs or lions, tigers etc etc the male is the dominant creature.
.... your comments about the dominance of maleness in the animal world is not correct at all.

For instance, you mention lions... our cultural notion of the male lion as 'king of the jungle' is just that; a cultural notion.... in reality, lions don't even live jungles, but savannas and it is the females who choose which male lions gets to be in the pride, it's the females who do most of the hunting, it's the females who decide which males she will mate with, it's the females who often expell any males from the pride when they're of no longer any use... the males donate sperm and provide territory security. And that is the same for a lot of species that organise themselves like that (one male, many females).

There are species where males dominate but it is not as widespread as many people assume it is.

I could say a lot more but I have boxes to pack.
 
Old Aug 11th 2007 | 11:08 pm
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I think my head is going to explode... and I'll pass on the religious discussion but....




.... your comments about the dominance of maleness in the animal world is not correct at all.

For instance, you mention lions... our cultural notion of the male lion as 'king of the jungle' is just that; a cultural notion.... in reality, lions don't even live jungles, but savannas and it is the females who choose which male lions gets to be in the pride, it's the females who do most of the hunting, it's the females who decide which males she will mate with, it's the females who often expell any males from the pride when they're of no longer any use... the males donate sperm and provide territory security. And that is the same for a lot of species that organise themselves like that (one male, many females).

There are species where males dominate but it is not as widespread as many people assume it is.

I could say a lot more but I have boxes to pack.
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas


I think my head is going to explode... and I'll pass on the religious discussion but....




.... your comments about the dominance of maleness in the animal world is not correct at all.

For instance, you mention lions... our cultural notion of the male lion as 'king of the jungle' is just that; a cultural notion.... in reality, lions don't even live jungles, but savannas and it is the females who choose which male lions gets to be in the pride, it's the females who do most of the hunting, it's the females who decide which males she will mate with, it's the females who often expell any males from the pride when they're of no longer any use... the males donate sperm and provide territory security. And that is the same for a lot of species that organise themselves like that (one male, many females).

There are species where males dominate but it is not as widespread as many people assume it is.

I could say a lot more but I have boxes to pack.
HWP...I can respect your point of view. Most women in the human race do everything as well. It still doesnt change the fact that this is how God ordered the world and it is not mere mans place to question God, but to accept what He has created.
 


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