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not2old Aug 18th 2022 9:29 am

passport: going into the UK
 
we are going on hols for 10 days end September.

can we still enter using a British passport & leave using a Canadian passport?

anyone done this recently within the last 12 mths - suggestions/advice?


bats Aug 18th 2022 10:02 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 13135525)
we are going on hols for 10 days end September.

can we still enter using a British passport & leave using a Canadian passport?

anyone done this recently within the last 12 mths - suggestions/advice?

Yes I have. No problem at all. Give the airline your Canadian passport details and show that passport to the airline just save the UK one for going into the UK. Have a great time

sharkus Aug 19th 2022 1:15 am

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Just echoing bats comment. Use Canadian passport when you check in, use British passport when you go through passport control in the UK, and use Canadian passport on the way back into Canada. I had no problems when I was back in the UK a couple of weeks ago. The only annoyance was the massive line and wait time to get to a border officer in T3 at pearson airport.

not2old Aug 19th 2022 1:19 am

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thank you both for your replies, it's what we shall do.

dbd33 Aug 19th 2022 8:08 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 13135525)
we are going on hols for 10 days end September.

can we still enter using a British passport & leave using a Canadian passport?

anyone done this recently within the last 12 mths - suggestions/advice?

I did this today. Arrived, from Switzerland, on a British passport, left on a Canadian one.

not2old Aug 21st 2022 6:06 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 
double posting this here as well as on the UK forum in Rovers Return, any help would be appreciated.

I shall be travelling to the UK for a short visit end of September.

as a dual citizen UK/Cdn, I presumably don't need a visa if I enter using Canadian Passport or proof of COVID vaccine?.

however from what I've been reading British Passport holders enter Canada (those that are not Canadian citizens/PR) are required to have a Eta visa.

Govt of Canada *travel advice/advisory* website seem to be *pushing* travellers to get additional recommended COVID vaccine doses.

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-kingdom

my question: if I dont have the booster shots will this be an issue entering the UK on a Canadian or British passport?

sharkus Aug 21st 2022 8:46 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 13136034)
double posting this here as well as on the UK forum in Rovers Return, any help would be appreciated.

I shall be travelling to the UK for a short visit end of September.

as a dual citizen UK/Cdn, I presumably don't need a visa if I enter using Canadian Passport or proof of COVID vaccine?.

however from what I've been reading British Passport holders enter Canada (those that are not Canadian citizens/PR) are required to have a Eta visa.

Govt of Canada *travel advice/advisory* website seem to be *pushing* travellers to get additional recommended COVID vaccine doses.

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-kingdom

my question: if I dont have the booster shots will this be an issue entering the UK on a Canadian or British passport?


Do you have both UK and Canadian passports, in other words, are you a dual citizen? If so I'd suggest that when in Canada you check in for the flight (online or at the check in desk) using your Canadian passport. When you land in the UK, use your UK passport to enter. When you're flying back you *must* use your Canadian passport, so you'd need to check in using it when in the UK.

I am pretty certain you do not need a vis to enter the UK on a Canadian passport, you could check here: https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa
In regards to proof of vaccination for entering the UK, I would suggest having a copy of your vaccination certificate, be it digital or printed out, you'd need it added to ArriveCAN for entry back into Canada.

At present I believe for entering the UK and Canada you are considered "Fully Vaccinated" if you have had "Primary series – Two intramuscular doses of 30 mcg given three weeks (21 days) apart." of an approved vaccine, that was certainly the case three to four weeks ago when I travelled to the UK and back to Canada, and from I can tell that has not changed in the past four weeks since I travelled from Canada to the UK and back.

not2old Aug 21st 2022 10:20 am

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@sharkus post#7 thank you.

dbd33 Aug 21st 2022 10:22 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 13136034)
double posting this here as well as on the UK forum in Rovers Return, any help would be appreciated.

I shall be travelling to the UK for a short visit end of September.

as a dual citizen UK/Cdn, I presumably don't need a visa if I enter using Canadian Passport or proof of COVID vaccine?.

however from what I've been reading British Passport holders enter Canada (those that are not Canadian citizens/PR) are required to have a Eta visa.

Govt of Canada *travel advice/advisory* website seem to be *pushing* travellers to get additional recommended COVID vaccine doses.

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-kingdom

my question: if I dont have the booster shots will this be an issue entering the UK on a Canadian or British passport?

I just went to the UK, entered on a British passport, no questions about vaccination, no questions at all. I then entered Canada on a Canadian passport, proof of three shots required, has to be entered into the awful ArriveCan application. I suppose that, if you don't have a phone, you can't come. Airport procedures in Canada still manual, still involves chaos because no one knows that they're supposed to be holding their entry form in their mouth. I'll die before the Canadian customs people realize that they don't need to create all this confusion and aggression.

CanadaJimmy Aug 21st 2022 5:22 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13136059)
I just went to the UK, entered on a British passport, no questions about vaccination, no questions at all. I then entered Canada on a Canadian passport, proof of three shots required, has to be entered into the awful ArriveCan application. I suppose that, if you don't have a phone, you can't come. Airport procedures in Canada still manual, still involves chaos because no one knows that they're supposed to be holding their entry form in their mouth. I'll die before the Canadian customs people realize that they don't need to create all this confusion and aggression.

Well on the plus side at least now Canada’s love of bureaucracy is becoming internationally famous.

sharkus Aug 22nd 2022 12:57 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13136059)
...proof of three shots required, has to be entered into the awful ArriveCan application.

Not wishing to be overly rude, but I don't believe the proof of three shots to be entered into ArriveCAN to be true. I just checked and I only see it asking you which vaccine type you received for your first shot, then a question asking if you have received a second shot, and answering Yes will allow you to enter the details of the second shot. There is nothing displayed mentioning any further shots.
While I can certainly agree with the slight inconvenience of using ArriveCAN (apparently you can use the website to add the information as opposed to the app) and the horror that awaits when you get to T3, what I don't agree with is misinformation about what proof of vaccination is needed when coming back into Canada.

not2old Aug 22nd 2022 1:24 am

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@sharkus & dbd33 appreciate the feedback & discussion.

here is my recent ArriveCan experience doing a day road trip to the USA.

for the first time I filled in the on-line on my computer the ArriveCan forms, a PITA.

on the way back I asked the CBSA person if they needed to see our vaccine certificates, response was no because they're in the system.

just on COVID was asked if we were double vaccinated, if we'd been sick or had symptoms.

I then asked do we need to fill in the 10 or so pages each time, again the response was "no since proof of 2 vaccines was already in the system, next time it should take a couple minutes with some yes/no questions"

for our trip to the UK in September, 24 hrs before leaving the UK to come back to Canada we'll do the on-line computer form filling exercise .... we don't have smart phones.

and for sure that we have printed out proof of COVID vaccinations.

dbd33 Aug 23rd 2022 12:04 am

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Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 13136151)
Not wishing to be overly rude, but I don't believe the proof of three shots to be entered into ArriveCAN to be true. I just checked and I only see it asking you which vaccine type you received for your first shot, then a question asking if you have received a second shot, and answering Yes will allow you to enter the details of the second shot. There is nothing displayed mentioning any further shots.
While I can certainly agree with the slight inconvenience of using ArriveCAN (apparently you can use the website to add the information as opposed to the app) and the horror that awaits when you get to T3, what I don't agree with is misinformation about what proof of vaccination is needed when coming back into Canada.

Well, to be precise it was in February that I asked the authorities how many shots were needed to get into Canada. The answer then was three so I entered the three into ArriveCan and travelled in March. This time around the vaccination information was already in the ArriveCan application so I didn't have to update it. It may be that the rules have changed and only one shot is needed now or it may be that the app is a bit crap and there's only an edit for one shot even though three are required.

It hardly matters though, people who are inclined to be vaccinated will likely have has three shots, people who oppose vaccination won't have had any. People who have had one only must be as rare as people who use improbable pronouns on work email.

Piff Poff Sep 1st 2022 9:51 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 13135525)
we are going on hols for 10 days end September.

can we still enter using a British passport & leave using a Canadian passport?

anyone done this recently within the last 12 mths - suggestions/advice?

I did in June.

Atlantic Xpat Sep 6th 2022 12:58 am

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I'm puzzlled - whats the benefit of entering UK on a British Passport? Canadian passports can (or could last time I travelled) use the same e-gates as UK passports. So no difference there.

dbd33 Sep 6th 2022 4:32 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 13139464)
I'm puzzlled - whats the benefit of entering UK on a British Passport? Canadian passports can (or could last time I travelled) use the same e-gates as UK passports. So no difference there.

I'm a British person entering Britain. Why would I pose as a foreigner?

Atlantic Xpat Sep 7th 2022 11:24 pm

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13139494)
I'm a British person entering Britain. Why would I pose as a foreigner?

Well that's all very gammon of you, blue passports, rah rah rah, but for all practical purposes, entering UK on a Canadian passport is exactly the same in terms of process, time taken etc than a UK passport if you use the e-gates.
Prior to Canadian passports being acceptable for e-gates, I did exactly the same - entered UK on my UK passport and returned to Canada on my Canadian passport. I still carry both just in case but could travel just as conveniently on just my Canadian one.

JamesM Sep 8th 2022 12:45 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 13136151)
Not wishing to be overly rude, but I don't believe the proof of three shots to be entered into ArriveCAN to be true. I just checked and I only see it asking you which vaccine type you received for your first shot, then a question asking if you have received a second shot, and answering Yes will allow you to enter the details of the second shot. There is nothing displayed mentioning any further shots.
While I can certainly agree with the slight inconvenience of using ArriveCAN (apparently you can use the website to add the information as opposed to the app) and the horror that awaits when you get to T3, what I don't agree with is misinformation about what proof of vaccination is needed when coming back into Canada.

Proof of vaccination is needed isn't it? Not 3 shots but the original 2.

I went to Vegas recently and had to upload the actual certificate with the airlines prior for approval.


dbd33 Sep 8th 2022 2:37 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 13139847)
Well that's all very gammon of you, blue passports, rah rah rah, but for all practical purposes, entering UK on a Canadian passport is exactly the same in terms of process, time taken etc than a UK passport if you use the e-gates.
Prior to Canadian passports being acceptable for e-gates, I did exactly the same - entered UK on my UK passport and returned to Canada on my Canadian passport. I still carry both just in case but could travel just as conveniently on just my Canadian one.

My British passport is pink and, I suppose, using it is just habit from when it mattered. I was in a dilemma in CH this time though, it's kind of embarrassing to be associated with the Brexiters so I very nearly used a Canadian passport.

TheAwesomeMatt Sep 10th 2022 6:32 am

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Wtf, how'd you get a pink passport?

dbd33 Sep 10th 2022 10:20 am

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Originally Posted by TheAwesomeMatt (Post 13140322)
Wtf, how'd you get a pink passport?

I looked hard at the issuing officer, I smiled wryly and winked. That I was in a leopard print dress likely helped.

That, or they're all pink until they expire and you have to take a blue one.

Jerseygirl Sep 10th 2022 10:28 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 
If I remember correctly the last Covid shot has to be within 12 months of travel to Canada.

TheAwesomeMatt Sep 10th 2022 6:32 pm

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13140362)
I looked hard at the issuing officer, I smiled wryly and winked. That I was in a leopard print dress likely helped.

That, or they're all pink until they expire and you have to take a blue one.

Ah, alright, you mean the burgundy ones, thought you were referring to some obscure emergency passport but they white afaik

sharkus Sep 14th 2022 3:19 am

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Just to confirm again, no problems for me entering my Canadian passport details for online check-in, and actually using my British passport at the e-gates at LGW, and then using Canadian passport on the trip back to enter canada. This was outbound monday 5th / tuesday 6th (late flight monday) and inbound monday 12th.

Atlantic Xpat Sep 14th 2022 3:55 am

Re: passport: going into the UK
 

Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 13141084)
Just to confirm again, no problems for me entering my Canadian passport details for online check-in, and actually using my British passport at the e-gates at LGW, and then using Canadian passport on the trip back to enter canada. This was outbound monday 5th / tuesday 6th (late flight monday) and inbound monday 12th.

You can (or at least you could last September when I last did it) use your Canadian passport at the e-gate at LGW/LHR as well. So you don't actually need your UK passport to have the same convenience.

sharkus Sep 14th 2022 6:44 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 13141100)
You can (or at least you could last September when I last did it) use your Canadian passport at the e-gate at LGW/LHR as well. So you don't actually need your UK passport to have the same convenience.

Very true. My girlfriend had no problem using her brand new, never used before, Canadian passport when we got to LGW. She was quite shocked about how efficient the e-gate was, and asked "is that it?" in regards to getting through border control :D

I could have done the same thing, but, well, for some reason I wanted to use my UK one. I'm slightly odd :D

Gozit Sep 14th 2022 12:32 pm

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Does anyone have a source on the "last shot within 12 months of entering Canada"? Last time I travelled it was 2 doses, no time limit. I don't ever remember reading anything in the news or on the government website indicating that's changed.

Jerseygirl Sep 14th 2022 12:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Gozit (Post 13141190)
Does anyone have a source on the "last shot within 12 months of entering Canada"? Last time I travelled it was 2 doses, no time limit. I don't ever remember reading anything in the news or on the government website indicating that's changed.

My post #22. I entered 2 weeks ago. No Covid testing. Last Covid shot must be within 12 mths of entering. ArriveCan must be completed before you check in.

Gozit Sep 15th 2022 11:52 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 13141191)
My post #22. I entered 2 weeks ago. No Covid testing. Last Covid shot must be within 12 mths of entering. ArriveCan must be completed before you check in.

Who told you that? The CBSA officer? If so, they were misinformed.

As per gov of Canada:


To qualify as a fully vaccinated traveller to Canada, you must:

  • have received at least 2 doses of a COVID-19 vaccine accepted for travel, a mix of 2 accepted vaccines
    • or at least 1 dose of the Janssen Jcovden (Johnson & Johnson, Ad26.COV2.S (JNJ-78436735)) vaccine
  • have received your second dose at least 14 calendar days before you enter Canada
    • Example: if your second dose was anytime on Thursday, July 1, then Thursday, July 15 would be the first day that you meet the 14 day condition
    • this timing is only required for your second dose, not for third or fourth doses
  • have no signs or symptoms of COVID-19
  • have ArriveCAN receipt with letter A, I, or V beside your name by uploading proof of vaccination in ArriveCAN


You must have received at least 2 doses of an accepted vaccine, or a mix of 2 accepted vaccines, or at least 1 dose of the Janssen Jcovden (Johnson & Johnson, Ad26.COV2.S (JNJ-78436735)) vaccine to qualify as a fully vaccinated traveller and be allowed to enter Canada.



No mention of 3rd or 4th doses being required, or of timeline of doses.

Someone who was vaccinated with 2 doses in early 2021 should still be good to go for travel.



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