Howefamily

They have arrested someone

magnumpi

Was it a gun?

iaink

I think youll find they actually raised it... it was just worded weirdly.

Howefamily

apparently they arrested someone and then found the gun on a bus
Halifax police arrest man, recover firearm from bus | Toronto Star

iaink

We dont know how much they knew though, and as a society we need to be carefull about at what point we start to arrest people based on suspicion rather than proof.

But both the shooter and the driver were prevented from leaving Canada recently, so clearly they were on the radar.

Im curious how someone with a gun was able to enter the parliament buildings without some sort of confrontation... Some failings in the system to be looked at for sure.

magnumpi

Ok good that they found him, only 87 more to come out of the wood work

Alan2005

Yeah. Maybe now there will be some more high profile reporting on the Canadians that have joined isis as there are quite a few of them out there.

magnumpi

He walked thru the front doors holding the gun, he was shot, but he was wearing a bullet vest, then was shot dead via the head by the sgt at arms

Howefamily

Shard

+1 on each point

JamesM

I agree- but the person in charge of security has been hailed as a hero for shooting the man dead so this glaring oversight appears to have been quietly brushed under the carpet.

scrubbedexpat091

CTV last night was doing a run down on security at Parliament, and based on what CTV was saying, there are several agencies who provide the security there depending where on the grounds one is.

Senate side was shown as having a separate security then the other side, the outside up to the street was shown as RCMP and then the streets Ottawa Police.

If this is true, maybe it's too many agencies trying to protect 1 place and it would be better if just 1 agency say the RCMP provides security for the entire grounds so everyone can work together better.

But not even the best security can prevent everything, I mean people are still jumping over the White House fence, luckily this time the dogs got him before he got close to the building.

Oakvillian

I think it's a bit more complicated than that.

Inside the Parliament buildings, there's the House of Commons Police, the Senate Police, and the Sergeant-at-Arms' security force. The rest of the Parliament Hill area, outside the buildings themselves, is the responsibility of the RCMP. Beyond the immediate area of Parliament Hill, the Ottawa City Police have jurisdiction. On the river the OPP and SQ share responsibility, and on the other side it's the Gatineau police and SQ.

Who let the shooter in? He's not the Sergeant-at-Arms' responsibility until he's actually inside the building. He's not the RCMP's responsibility until he's actually on the lawn or the driveway in front of the building. The Ottawa police ceased being responsible as soon as he crossed the invisible line that marks the RCMP's Parliament Hill territory.

Every time there's some sort of incursion into Parliament (like a few years ago when the environmental protesters hung banners from the roof) there's a load of bluster about providing a unified command structure. But every time push comes to shove, the Commons and Senate don't want to get rid of their own police services and give carte blanche to the RCMP.

on edit: should have read jsmth's reply first. I heard this on CBC; it seems CTV were on the same story

scrubbedexpat091

Seems the shooter was distance from his family, his mother met with him last week for the first time in 5 years.

He appears to have been homeless as well as CBC is reporting he was staying in a downtown shelter.

SchnookoLoly

Here's the statement released by the parents - Michael Zehaf-Bibeau parents' statement: 'We are so sorry' - Politics - CBC News