Shard

A big shooting. So so sad.

magnumpi

Just turned news on 50 dead 50 wounded OMG

Shard

So indiscriminate. One Saturday night you're here, the next minute, you're not. Somehow if it's a natural disaster (like the helicopter crashing the pub in Glasgow) it's more understandable than if it's a pre-meditated attack.

magnumpi

Orlando nightclub shooting: How the attack unfolded - BBC News

Shooter shot dead on scene.

Shard

Well done on that.

dave_j

A sad day and one that'll have significant impact across the US.
Expect a rant from Trump who may well just have just become president on the back of this.

magnumpi

Wasn't there a singer shot dead yesterday too ?

mikelincs

Yes, signing autographs after the concert.. was a competitor in the US 'The Voice'

Shard

Yes, two days ago I think. Just 22. Talent show winner.

macadian

Yup, mana from heaven for Mr Trump and his philosophy of playing to people's fears....

MillieF

How horrific, I saw this reported this morning, but there was no idea of the numbers involved, or the background of the killer.

I can quite see how Trump might try to work on people's fears with this one. When I first saw reports on this, I assumed that it had been carried out by a Christian fundamentalist.

magnumpi

Still 50 reported dead and now 53 wounded. And the killer was called Omar Mateen

Tangram

All guns were bought legally and he had a concealed weapon permit. Thank god for the constitution.

dbd33

I don't see it as being that clear cut. From a conservative perspective, having Americans deciding they're terrorists and going on shooting sprees isn't good but, if they're only shooting liberals, then, well, it's like them drug dealers in Vancouver, if you're not one, you're not involved and need not be bothered about it.

Trump will, I imagine, try to bluster over the inconvenient truths of the shooter being an American with legally purchased weapons. He can't sympathise with the victims for fear of losing his more ardent supporters. What he really needs is another attack, by an immigrant, on a church or, ideally, a Christian school.

macadian

I suspect Trump will simply 'cherry pick" those aspects of this tradgedy that suit his purpose and ignore those that do not. Nothing new there, a tried and trusted formula that continues to appeal to his base. One can only hope that General Election electorate will require substance rather than simple and hollow rhetoric. I keep telling myself that he has no chance of getting to the White House, but......