The Ontario Sunshine List.
#18
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
You are correct. The fact that it probably needs updating I have no problem with.
I can say for certainty that my salary has not increased 50% since 1996.
I have no problems with people making decent salaries and of course we know its very hard to find a private sector sunshine list be it from 1996 or today.
I would hazard a guess and say when you were working you would have made a sunshine list to which you would probably reply but Im highly educated and sought after in my field of work and that I deserved that salary plus the defined pension benefit plan you are now drawing from.
Of course any public sector worker faces scrutiny as we all know they are overpaid and have golden pensions plus can accumulate generous sick time that they use at the end of their careers so in essence retire earlier and still being paid a salary.
I can say for certainty that my salary has not increased 50% since 1996.
I have no problems with people making decent salaries and of course we know its very hard to find a private sector sunshine list be it from 1996 or today.
I would hazard a guess and say when you were working you would have made a sunshine list to which you would probably reply but Im highly educated and sought after in my field of work and that I deserved that salary plus the defined pension benefit plan you are now drawing from.
Of course any public sector worker faces scrutiny as we all know they are overpaid and have golden pensions plus can accumulate generous sick time that they use at the end of their careers so in essence retire earlier and still being paid a salary.
#19
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
Just to emphasise my point about the increasing irrelevance of $100K, this table Ontario Sunshine List - search & analyze shows that the number of earners above this arbitrary threshold has gone from less than 5000 in 1996 to over 115,000 in 2015.
It's just stupid and apart from being being a divisive invasion of privacy, is a fossil remnant of Harris's attack on public sector workers and their unions 20 years ago.
ETA: Playing around with the metrics on that site shows that to get the number on the list back down to around the 5,000 on the 1996 list, you have to increase the 2015 threshold to $200,000.
QED.
It's just stupid and apart from being being a divisive invasion of privacy, is a fossil remnant of Harris's attack on public sector workers and their unions 20 years ago.
ETA: Playing around with the metrics on that site shows that to get the number on the list back down to around the 5,000 on the 1996 list, you have to increase the 2015 threshold to $200,000.
QED.
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Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
True but if you are or were a public servant then your salary would be disclosed publicly so then it becomes everyones business as they can search the various data bases.
When lists like this are published its just more ammunition to complain about public servants and especially nowadays where many are saying these wages and benefits are not sustainable and especially budgets given to police forces.
Severance packages have now almost been eliminated from the Federal Public Service so the new hires won't see those.
Enjoy your retirement.
When lists like this are published its just more ammunition to complain about public servants and especially nowadays where many are saying these wages and benefits are not sustainable and especially budgets given to police forces.
Severance packages have now almost been eliminated from the Federal Public Service so the new hires won't see those.
Enjoy your retirement.
#21
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
True but if you are or were a public servant then your salary would be disclosed publicly so then it becomes everyones business as they can search the various data bases.
When lists like this are published its just more ammunition to complain about public servants and especially nowadays where many are saying these wages and benefits are not sustainable and especially budgets given to police forces.
Severance packages have now almost been eliminated from the Federal Public Service so the new hires won't see those.
Enjoy your retirement.
When lists like this are published its just more ammunition to complain about public servants and especially nowadays where many are saying these wages and benefits are not sustainable and especially budgets given to police forces.
Severance packages have now almost been eliminated from the Federal Public Service so the new hires won't see those.
Enjoy your retirement.
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Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
Actually a few Provincial Govts do and we are now starting to see cities post them
Government of Alberta Salary Disclosure
British Columbia 2014 - Salary Disclosure Stats - SunshineListStats.com
http://www.winnipeg.ca/corp/document...disclosure.pdf
Nova Scotia Department of Finance - Public Sector Compensation Disclosure
Government of Alberta Salary Disclosure
British Columbia 2014 - Salary Disclosure Stats - SunshineListStats.com
http://www.winnipeg.ca/corp/document...disclosure.pdf
Nova Scotia Department of Finance - Public Sector Compensation Disclosure
#23
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
Actually a few Provincial Govts do and we are now starting to see cities post them
Government of Alberta Salary Disclosure
British Columbia 2014 - Salary Disclosure Stats - SunshineListStats.com
http://www.winnipeg.ca/corp/document...disclosure.pdf
Nova Scotia Department of Finance - Public Sector Compensation Disclosure
Government of Alberta Salary Disclosure
British Columbia 2014 - Salary Disclosure Stats - SunshineListStats.com
http://www.winnipeg.ca/corp/document...disclosure.pdf
Nova Scotia Department of Finance - Public Sector Compensation Disclosure
How about the feds?
#24
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
Cost Of Living 1996
How Much things cost in 1996
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 2.93% Year End Close Dow Jones Industrial Average 6448 Interest Rates Year End Federal Reserve 8.25% Average Cost of new house $118,200.00 Average Income per year $36,300.00 Average Monthly Rent $554.00 Cost of a gallon of Gas $1.22 US Postage Stamp 32 cents Average cost of new car $16,300.00 Loaf of Bread $1.15 Minimum Hourly Wage Raised To $5.15
Below are some Prices for UK guides in Pounds Sterling
Average House Price 69,453 Gallon of Petrol 2.70 Yearly Inflation Rate UK 2.4% Interest Rates Year End Bank of England 5.94% FTSE 100 Average 3800
How Much things cost in 1996
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 2.93% Year End Close Dow Jones Industrial Average 6448 Interest Rates Year End Federal Reserve 8.25% Average Cost of new house $118,200.00 Average Income per year $36,300.00 Average Monthly Rent $554.00 Cost of a gallon of Gas $1.22 US Postage Stamp 32 cents Average cost of new car $16,300.00 Loaf of Bread $1.15 Minimum Hourly Wage Raised To $5.15
Below are some Prices for UK guides in Pounds Sterling
Average House Price 69,453 Gallon of Petrol 2.70 Yearly Inflation Rate UK 2.4% Interest Rates Year End Bank of England 5.94% FTSE 100 Average 3800
#25
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
Cost Of Living 1996
How Much things cost in 1996
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 2.93% Year End Close Dow Jones Industrial Average 6448 Interest Rates Year End Federal Reserve 8.25% Average Cost of new house $118,200.00 Average Income per year $36,300.00 Average Monthly Rent $554.00 Cost of a gallon of Gas $1.22 US Postage Stamp 32 cents Average cost of new car $16,300.00 Loaf of Bread $1.15 Minimum Hourly Wage Raised To $5.15
Below are some Prices for UK guides in Pounds Sterling
Average House Price 69,453 Gallon of Petrol 2.70 Yearly Inflation Rate UK 2.4% Interest Rates Year End Bank of England 5.94% FTSE 100 Average 3800
How Much things cost in 1996
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 2.93% Year End Close Dow Jones Industrial Average 6448 Interest Rates Year End Federal Reserve 8.25% Average Cost of new house $118,200.00 Average Income per year $36,300.00 Average Monthly Rent $554.00 Cost of a gallon of Gas $1.22 US Postage Stamp 32 cents Average cost of new car $16,300.00 Loaf of Bread $1.15 Minimum Hourly Wage Raised To $5.15
Below are some Prices for UK guides in Pounds Sterling
Average House Price 69,453 Gallon of Petrol 2.70 Yearly Inflation Rate UK 2.4% Interest Rates Year End Bank of England 5.94% FTSE 100 Average 3800
#26
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
Game boys were just coming popular and walk mans
I wonder if the sunshine list people of 1996 would still be happy with the same wage today? 200,000 is a more realistic number to base the list on, if we really need a list?
#27
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
I know weird ehh, is just rough comparison only
Game boys were just coming popular and walk mans
I wonder if the sunshine list people of 1996 would still be happy with the same wage today? 200,000 is a more realistic number to base the list on, if we really need a list?
Game boys were just coming popular and walk mans
I wonder if the sunshine list people of 1996 would still be happy with the same wage today? 200,000 is a more realistic number to base the list on, if we really need a list?
But I retired on July 1st 2015.
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Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/cana...220207728.html
On Wednesday, Parliament passed second reading of Bill C-461 — The CBC and
Public Service Disclosure and Transparency Act.
If the Bill is adopted, as is, the salaries and expenses of all federal public service workers who make over $188,000 would be subject to access to information requests.
Actually the salaries of most Feds are disclosed but do not name the individual. The Treasury Board show the salaries for workers in this document
https://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/h...s-taux-eng.asp
So if you know the employer and classification its easy to find and for anybody who is interested this is my annual salary
$70120 and the last contract expired in June 2014 and we have been offered a 0.5% raise. Of course the politicians gave themselves a 2.3% raise which is 5 times more than what the workers are being offered.
Its not very hard to find out the salaries of most public sector workers but Im betting IBM, Google and a few others have no intention of releasing their workers salaries.
#30
Re: The Ontario Sunshine List.
Of course your salary of some $70k has medical benefits, more paid vacation days & a nice civil service pension which most common every day non-government sector workers don't have
Lucky is you