The Ontario Sunshine List.
 

So the latest Ontario sunshine list has been released and has been reported on numerous media websites. What is this sunshine list some might ask?
Well its the list of public sector workers employed by the Ontario Govt who make or made in excess of $100,000 in salaries. In total, the list for 2016 includes 115,259 names — up from 111,440 in 2014. The Toronto police top the list for the city, employing 4,638 officers who each earn more than $100,000 per year.

This is the bit that caught my eye
Twenty-one station collectors, the individuals who collect fares and sell tokens and Metropasses at subway stations, earned more than $100,000 in 2015. Derrick Dezilva, the highest-paid station collector, earned $117,022.67 in 2015.


Sunshine list 2016: TTC, police lead the way for Toronto with thousands earning more than $100K | National Post

I now expect a rush of Ontarian's to be filling out application for the TTC to apply to be a ticket collector :rofl:

This has got to be one of the best comments that seriously made me laugh out loud

Cops and firemen I have no problem paying. But handing out TTC tickets can get you on the list? I was visiting Hong Kong in 1985 and much of the ticketing was already automated. This was fking 30 years ago!!! Paying monkeys to hand out bananas is insane. And let's not forget the scam they pull whenever a rate hike is made. The monkeys load up on tokens at the old price, the next day they sell to the zoo goers for the new price and pocket the difference.

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How much overtime did it take to reach that figure?

I did a bit of googling and found a report from (I think) when one of these collectors broke the $100k and it was overtime of a minimum 20 hours a week that effectively doubled his pay.

It's rather typical of the way things go today. A bunch of people earn in excess of $100k, some of them many times that amount and it's the ones at the bottom (likely putting in more hours) that get ridiculed. :(

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Why do they have employees selling tickets?

Machines can do it no issue.

Vancouver the stations are fully automated.

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Maybe some like dealing with people and face to face...like how some prefer to be able to have a bank to call at ;)

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Why is it so wrong for ordinary working stiffs to earn $100,000? We have a number of school caretakers at my employer who earn well above that, but they work all the weekend rentals and two to four hours at night, just so that the students (who are some of the most unhousetrained individuals I have ever come across) can have a nice, clean and safe environment in which to learn nothing!

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All it tells me is that my husband is not being paid enough. I feel very poor now as every Joe Bloggs seems to be making over 100000.

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The lost shouldn't include overtime payments.

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Why not? Is it not still paid out tax payers money ?

Hydro one or Ontario power (I forget which one) not on the list ehh, only 15% of it is private sector now but Wynne won't let us know about the other 85% that Torontonians have to pay for.

Pan am games bonuses are eye watering BTW

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FFS. This goddam Sunshine list was started by the much loved Mike Harris in, I think, 1996.

$100,000 in 1996 dollars is worth less than half that today.

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Sometimes we feel downright impovershed....lol... We barely got to 30k last year which is both good and bad....




I do think if this list was made in the 90s it needs to be upped to maybe 150k to account for inflation and other rises in life. 100K is not the same value wise as the late 90s.

My dad is govt employee in US, makes something in the 70k range now. But took 38 or 39 years to reach and is no longer possible in his department to earn thst much. He is on the old payscale. Pay now is between 11hr and 20hr for the department and mostly part time on call.

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Because it doesn't compare like for like.

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You are correct. The fact that it probably needs updating I have no problem with.
I can say for certainty that my salary has not increased 50% since 1996.
I have no problems with people making decent salaries and of course we know its very hard to find a private sector sunshine list be it from 1996 or today.
I would hazard a guess and say when you were working you would have made a sunshine list to which you would probably reply but Im highly educated and sought after in my field of work and that I deserved that salary plus the defined pension benefit plan you are now drawing from.
Of course any public sector worker faces scrutiny as we all know they are overpaid and have golden pensions plus can accumulate generous sick time that they use at the end of their careers so in essence retire earlier and still being paid a salary.

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Some of them are offered far more in buy out offers to go on pension early.

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They include bonuses, that's extra to a 40 hour week.

I like your thinking tho, if only revenue Canada would tax me on regular Time only and OT be tax free, now ya talking !!! :@)

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Wouldn't that be nice!

I suppose when this was introduced the fat cats would be salaried with no overtime etc. Now with inflation and current wages it is a nonsense to compare those on hourly rates and overtime to those on a salary with no overtime.