Shard

A smash and grab robber is crushed to death, what's your reaction?

Armed robber died after being sat on by passersby - Telegraph

pdarwin

If he was armed then we can assume he was out to seriously hurt or kill anyone who got in his way. Live by the sword....

dbd33

I'd like to click both buttons please.

Tirytory

I read it as vigilante justice going the way you might predict it too. Obviously I'm not going to argue that if he hadn't done what he did he wouldn't have been in that position, but I can also imagine a situation where actually these men had a great amount of satisfaction in providing the unnecessary amount of restraint that they did.

I don't think much of the nurse either, I would have thought she could have been a greater advocate for him, he said he couldn't breathe but she judged otherwise and she was wrong and he died. She had a duty of care to him and she failed.

Edited to add...I don't think either of those are right, there should be a third option!

macadian

You pays your money and you takes your chances. Architect of his own demise.

Aviator

One goes armed one should be prepared for the consequences. Carrying weapons presumably they had intent to use if they got a chance, why else carry them? The other side got the better of them, it does not seem like those who participated intended to do harm, unlike the perpetrators.

Shard

There are two options on purpose: to force respondents to take a view.

MillieF

I don't want to push only the one button either. Mob mentality is not any more acceptable than an armed robber

BristolUK

I see no reference to arms other than "armed robber" so were the 'arms' the sledgehammer and smoke bombs that seem to have had only a practical purpose of obtaining jewels rather than a threatening purpose or was there something else?

The link to the original report also says armed robber with no reference to arms in the 'traditional' sense.

Usually this is because investigations are ending but it appears beyond that stage in this case.

Tirytory

To have no sympathy reeks of inhumanity....and it wasn't a tragic accident. It was vigilante behaviour taken too far. So I disagree, I think the options are bad

Almost Canadian

Was there a suggestion that they intended to kill him by sitting on him or was that, unfortunately a tragic outcome of them wanting to restrain him until the police arrived?

Shard

You could also say it was social-antipathy (on the robber's part) taken too far. I agree with the "live by the sword..." comment and, given the lack of intention by the mob, find the situation akin to natural justice.

Shard

The suggestion in the article was that they simply wanted to immobilise him. Presumably their true intention is the matter the court is trying to stablished. If their was intention, I would have a small dose of sympathy for the robber.

Almost Canadian

I thought it was a coroner's inquest.

From the report it would appear that the store owner, and possibly another, were under the deceased while others were sat upon him. If they intended to kill him, wouldn't the implication be that they intended to kill the others too?

Tirytory

And how much force would it actually take to restrain someone standing up, two guys, three guys? How heavily must they have been sitting on him to kill him? He wouldn't have suddenly stopped breathing you know. At some point that man must have been gasping for breath, turning blue and in an incredible amount of pain, perhaps he bled out internally as they fractured a rib. You can't tell me that was not unnecessary force that killed him...