The4BellsLondon

Just back from a day trip to France - which used to excite me no end.....

On bard the boat I had a mooch in the "duty Free" shop - 3 x 3l boxes of Kumala or similar wine for £24,that's bout $38, the same price as a box of naked grape in BC !!!

I didnt want to look at the other prices after that !

fledermaus

A box of naked grape??? What size??

How much in the offy though rather than compare duty free?

The4BellsLondon

A 3l box of naked grape in BC liquor is usually 39.99 - was on special to 29.99 tother week.

Not sure of prices in Offy here but did here some one moaning that the prices on ship werent much different to Tesco! Before I let you could get 3 bottles of cava for a tenner!

CanadaJimmy

Meh, the drinking culture is caused by social dysfunction in my opinion. Prices don't really affect consumption, look at Spain, you can get a nice bottle of Wine for less than 1 euro! Canada's approach is just to have liquor stores which keeps alcohol segregated, but I think UK/Canada/US culture really needs to adopt the Mediterranean approach, bringing up children in an environment where alcohol is a social drink that isn't anything special, just part of life.

Oink

This argument is completely without support or evidence and is the same old hackneyed stuff trotted out by the finger waving self-satisfied. Actually Spain has one of Europe’s worst underage drinking problems. Because of cheap alcohol most a lot kids start drinking at 12 or 13, drink openly on the street to the point of severe intoxication which creates the corresponding social pathologies.


Spain trying to deal with its underage drinking culture

Alan2005

It's cafe culture init. We should be sat on patios drinking expensive euro-lager and behaving sophisticatedly.

Oink

Or you are sitting around the 400 year old family diner table where 6 year olds eat beluga caviar while knowledgably sipping vintage Bordeaux from their family’s vineyard. Don’t you feel sorry for British kids washing their Findus crispy pancakes down with White Lightening?

The4BellsLondon

Dam =- found out!

Anway - the point of the thread was really just to moan about the Canadian prices!

Souvy

I don't think Canadian prices are set by the retailers. In Quebec, at least, the minimum price is fixed by the provincial government. A 24 will cost the same in Costco as in a supermarket or a corner store. They all sell booze as cheaply as they are allowed.

JamesM

Don't get me started- I am currently in dispute with the Beer Store over a $100 keg of keith's that will not fit in my beer fridge.

It's a desert with out rain -(

CanadaJimmy

You make it sound like I haven't witnessed it first hand, which I have. Children are not segregated and go into bars with their parents. All this makes it seem incredibly normal and nothing special. I have seen young people at an outdoor concert dancing like crazy whilst drinking bottled water, not alcohol.

This is the first time I've heard logical thought referred to as finger waving.

I find that difficult to believe. It may have a large amount of underage consumption, for example, watered down wine for the kids, but I wouldn't define that as a problem. I was unable to find any statistics on what countries have the worst underage drinking problems, on Nationmaster nor on Google.

Never witnessed alcohol being consumed on the street once in my time in Spain. Other than people sat outside at a cafe with a bottle of red. And this is after spending months there with my parents who lived there for a short time.

Why have you linked to this with the header "Spain trying to deal with its underage drinking culture" when the article is titled "Spain moves on youth binge drinking". The former sounds more like there's an established negative culture, which I think is a pretty cheap move personally.

The article itself sounds a lot more "finger waving", with lines such as "The survey further showed that young people did not appear to recognise alcohol consumption as dangerous.", well thats because, when consumed moderately, it isn't. The survey itself only asked if there was alcohol consumed, not the quantity. Drinking moderate amounts of alcohol socially is part of Spanish life, so seeing that it was consumed by a large percentage is not "worrying data" as the article suggests, but merely a reflection on the culture.

Consuming alcohol, even underage, is not a bad thing if it's in a social context in my opinion.

Jingsamichty

<snigger>... oh, the naivety...

dbd33

I too loved that, I reached for my "Ibiza - History of House" CD.

Atlantic Xpat

I believe, as the song goes, that 'Ebenezer's good'?

ExKiwilass

har. yes. bottles of water.

ahem.