Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 11374540)

Or perhaps they could make you a nice curry, let's hope they don't have TB or Ebola, because they won't have had the medical.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11374546)

I personally am commiting a technical offence of that nature just about every moment I'm awake. Canada has a lot of laws, some for everyone, so we all break some every day. The merit of undocumented workers is that they care not to get caught, they try not to speed, not to be obviously drunk at the wheel, not to fight inside the bar. They try to be inconspicuous. Documented workers can afford to behave less well as they can just pay the fines.

I suppose all the posters on this thread are working in a foreign country, Canada. It's not our country, we belong here as much or as little as the people being rounded up. We shouldn't think ourselves better than them.

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11374556)

Possibly the biggest load of bollox I have ever wasted my time to read !!!

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11374546)

I suppose all the posters on this thread are working in a foreign country, Canada. It's not our country, we belong here as much or as little as the people being rounded up. We shouldn't think ourselves better than them.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11374529)

Either no one checks or the system isn't very organized. I'm quite certain that the people I know to have been thrown out a couple of times are not engaging in any sort of complicated subterfuge; they just book the flight back and go drinking until it's time to fly.

Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 11374575)

Uh, yeah, right. It's not like we sent the government a huge pile of paperwork and waited three years for them to decide to let is in because we wanted to do things the right way. Clealry we're no better than those who just came here illegally.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11374546)

I personally am commiting a technical offence of that nature just about every moment I'm awake. Canada has a lot of laws, some for everyone, so we all break some every day. The merit of undocumented workers is that they care not to get caught, they try not to speed, not to be obviously drunk at the wheel, not to fight inside the bar. They try to be inconspicuous. Documented workers can afford to behave less well as they can just pay the fines

I suppose all the posters on this thread are working in a foreign country, Canada. It's not our country, we belong here as much or as little as the people being rounded up. We shouldn't think ourselves better than them.

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 11374489)

Of course it matters how they were caught. Or do you want to live in the kind of society where your neighbours will inform on you to the Stasi, or an armed policeman can demand that you present identification papers at any time while you're going about your everyday business?

It is to prevent the sort of police state that so many immigrants have fled from, that there are rules about how arrests and searches can be made. It's all very well for us economic migrants to sit on an internet forum and pontificate about it, but we are only one piece of Canada's immigration pattern. Very many more are fleeing war, famine, oppression, or all three. The last thing they should have to deal with is a government that thinks it's OK to break its own rules, or an immigration service that is able to stop people on the street for no other reason than to utter a Great Escape-style "Papieren, bitte."

Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 11374578)

I sense you are trawling my posts looking for anything slightly racist..... Trawl on.

Originally Posted by Steveh27wp (Post 11374624)

To suggest that we belong here as much or as little as the people being rounded up, is lunacy.....

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11374627)

Not really, no. The thread started with an allegation that the sweeps for illegal immigrants are racist in nature, you characterised illegal immigrants as being likely to be able to make curry and/or to have TB or Ebola. Quality cooking and exotic diseases are not commonly thought of as being attributes of the British, the suggestion therefore is that the illegal immigrants are from the third world which, in context, leaps out as being the same dodgy assumption that the police are accused of making. There was no need to trawl.

Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 11374646)

I make some quality exotic dishes and there are people in UK that have TB, funnily enough my grandfather died of TB, so your assumptions are incorrect. I like many immigrants were checked for TB before being accepted for this very privileged right to live and legally work in Canada.
So you accept you made a bad assumption, your apology is accepted.

Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 11374646)

I make some quality exotic dishes and there are people in UK that have TB, funnily enough my grandfather died of TB, so your assumptions are incorrect. I like many immigrants were checked for TB before being accepted for this very privileged right to live and legally work in Canada.
So you accept you made a bad assumption, your apology is accepted.