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Old May 10th 2016, 3:25 pm
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Interesting article given the sad and seemingly totally avoidable death of Ezekiel Stephan from meningitis. Snoop spends her days fending off middle aged barmcake idea full women extolling the virtues of in our opinion, non evidence based opportunistic charlatans.. I have my fair share too. UK thinks similarly of homeopaths..

Canada:Message to naturopaths: Magic isn’t medicine - The Globe and Mail

Uk thoughts : Homeopathy effective for 0 out of 68 illnesses, study finds | Health News | Lifestyle | The Independent

And this still makes me laugh..Homeopathic A&E.

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I'll take my chances with a traditional doctor. I know there might be some use in natural stuff in medicine, but from my understanding even medications originally derived from a natural source are much more potent then what you'd find in the natural source?

Wife tried a naturopath once for bipolar, her psychiatrist at the time advised not to but said it was her decision to make, she tried, went super manic and things were not good, now she will never go back to one again.

I've never had an interest in going to one, no real reason really, traditional doctors have always more or less been able to sufficiently treat me.

I had meningitis as an infant (2 weeks old) and while it was 1979, it took several hospitals and several doctors before I was even diagnosed properly, luckily for me, I had a very persistent mother who didn't take it's the flu and home as the answer.
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Complete bollox that only the desperate and intellectually challenged would consider these "treatments" having any efficacy. It's faith healing for the arrogant and stupid.
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I choose science (and its friend Big Pharma 😉) over quackery every time!
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I thought this was going to be something about nature rambling.

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And this still makes me laugh..Homeopathic A&E.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0
I'd not seen that before.
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The dbd name derives from deadbeat dad. The background to that is that when the Gruaniad invented a talkboard, 1999 or so, I was wondering what to use as a name. At the time the mother of my children was a fan of naturopaths and aromatherapists; she spent a great deal of money in havens for these frauds such as Mexico and British Columbia.

One day I had a child at my feet and was on the phone hearing how more money was required as the aromatherapist of the moment had failed to cure another child's autism and the opinion of a second aromatherapist was required. I declined to pay and the child on the floor denounced me as a deadbeat dad. I adopted that as my name.

Some years later the ex's primary naturopath, a star on this site:

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Originally Posted by BristolUK
I thought this was going to be something about nature rambling.



I'd not seen that before.
Thinking of Guardian talk, the best thread ever on that board (which I believe they've censored now) was a AMA session with a charlatan columnist called the Barefoot Doctor. People asked obvious questions along the lines of: "which herb helps with amputation?", "now that I have a spear through my chest, would I be better to massage my kidneys clockwise or anti-clockwise?"


Some of it is here:

The Barefoot Charlatan
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One of my friends from work just recently visited a naturopath. The 60 minute consultation was $200 and then she paid for the food allergy test (another $300) - Luckily we get $500 per each paramedical service per year (including naturopath) but that all went in one go.

It all started when one of her friends, a nutritionist told her to switch to organic stuff, cut out dairy, gluten and sugars and now rarely eats anything that isn't green or locally produced.

She keeps promoting quinoa (I hate that stuff) - it's just a Vancouver fad!
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Originally Posted by beckiwoo
She keeps promoting quinoa (I hate that stuff) - it's just a Vancouver fad!
Not just Vancouver, quinoa was one the products sold off the ex's driveway as part of the organic food cooperative she ran in 1980s Mississauga. It was horrible then, technology may have improved it since.
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Thinking of Guardian talk, the best thread ever on that board (which I believe they've censored now) was a AMA session with a charlatan columnist called the Barefoot Doctor. People asked obvious questions along the lines of: "which herb helps with amputation?", "now that I have a spear through my chest, would I be better to massage my kidneys clockwise or anti-clockwise?"


Some of it is here:

The Barefoot Charlatan
Thank you for sharing that. It was an entertaining read!
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It was horrible then, technology may have improved it since.
Nope, it still looks like frog sporn and tastes like an old smelly fart
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Originally Posted by beckiwoo
Nope, it still looks like frog sporn and tastes like an old smelly fart
Yummy!
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I'm not having anything i can't pronounce.
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Aaasghhhhh.

They are up there with chiropractors and other assorted snake oil merchants
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Originally Posted by bats
Aaasghhhhh.

They are up there with chiropractors and other assorted snake oil merchants

I somehow thought that you would agree with me bats.. Absolutely right about chiropracters.. Don't tell me" legs are different lengths, out of alignment"
"ribs have popped out" "popped my spine back" What a load of BS

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