Re: National Anthem at school.
The first high school graduation we attended on this side of the Atlantic was in Texas .................
quite the eye-opener. and yes, we did stand for it, but we did not put our hands over our hearts! We did get some peculiar looks from people around us for that, but no-one said anything. |
Re: National Anthem at school.
We used to stand and sing God Save the Queen at primary school assemblies. That all stopped in high school, I think the teachers knew they were on a hiding to nothing.
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Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by scilly
(Post 13055690)
The first high school graduation we attended on this side of the Atlantic was in Texas .................
quite the eye-opener. and yes, we did stand for it, but we did not put our hands over our hearts! We did get some peculiar looks from people around us for that, but no-one said anything. Pretty boring overall. |
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Anthems do seem rather anachronistic. Having said that, I read something about a new "black anthem" emerging in the US. Just what we need, more tribalism.
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Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 13055705)
We used to stand and sing God Save the Queen at primary school assemblies. That all stopped in high school, I think the teachers knew they were on a hiding to nothing.
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UK’s system of not separating church and state and forcing religion in schools is a real problem as it separates children and enforces superstition. Ontario has Catholic schools which (for whatever reason) are taxpayer funded but at least its not mandatory.
Homo Sapiens formed in caves and the humans are tribal. Is singing anthem a logical thing to do? No. But its sung when Canadians win gold at the Olympics and most tend to support Canadians in sports (or Brits or whatever they feel). Not logical at all but its harmless. Remove national anthem and Canadians will replace it by some other tribal characteristic, be it race or religion or class or gender or some other flag which tends to divide kids into “us” and “them”. Not a good thing. |
Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by Mordko
(Post 13055950)
Homo Sapiens formed in caves and the humans are tribal. Is singing anthem a logical thing to do? No. But its sung when Canadians win gold at the Olympics and most tend to support Canadians in sports (or Brits or whatever they feel). Not logical at all but its harmless. Remove national anthem and Canadians will replace it by some other tribal characteristic, be it race or religion or class or gender or some other flag which tends to divide kids into “us” and “them”. Not a good thing.
And for something completely different :rofl: |
Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 13055985)
Perhaps adopt this version
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Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by Skyva
(Post 13055500)
At a recent High school graduation in Alberta, Land of Hope and Glory was played throughout the students awards.
Never had that at any stage of school for 10 years in Aberdeenshire (although no-one got to the leaving school stage while we were there) |
Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by Mordko
(Post 13055950)
UK’s system of not separating church and state and forcing religion in schools is a real problem as it separates children and enforces superstition. Ontario has Catholic schools which (for whatever reason) are taxpayer funded but at least its not mandatory.
Homo Sapiens formed in caves and the humans are tribal. Is singing anthem a logical thing to do? No. But its sung when Canadians win gold at the Olympics and most tend to support Canadians in sports (or Brits or whatever they feel). Not logical at all but its harmless. Remove national anthem and Canadians will replace it by some other tribal characteristic, be it race or religion or class or gender or some other flag which tends to divide kids into “us” and “them”. Not a good thing. |
Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 13055985)
Perhaps adopt this version
:rofl: BTO all the way :thumbsup: |
Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 13056294)
The problem of religion in UK schools is not to do with the non-separation of church and state, but with particular "faith schools". State schools either have no religious affiliation or a nominal religious afflilation, and in each case, teach some fundamentals of all the major
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Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 13056483)
Newfoundland went to a secular school system sometime in the 90's - so my Mrs tells me. However, the names of the schools are slow to change, particularly the formerly catholic ones. Too many Holy Heart of Jesus Mary and bloody Joseph Elementary/High Schools around for my liking.
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Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 13056294)
The problem of religion in UK schools is not to do with the non-separation of church and state, but with particular "faith schools". State schools either have no religious affiliation or a nominal religious afflilation, and in each case, teach some fundamentals of all the major
Many schools, particularly secondary ones, do not follow the law, but your luck of avoiding Christian indoctrination very much depends on where you live. |
Re: National Anthem at school.
Originally Posted by Mordko
(Post 13056554)
In England the law says that all pupils in state schools must take part in an act of daily
Many schools, particularly secondary ones, do not follow the law, but your luck of avoiding Christian indoctrination very much depends on where you live. Didn't think much of it back then but forced to pay for it and from a dodgy organisation too. :blink: Not sure if it could have been bought anywhere else, but I remember we were given Gideon bibles. Maybe they should have given out the hymn books free instead. |
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