mclauchlan35

Rhys Jones Born 27/09/1995 shot dead 22/08/2007 also in Lanarkshire a 7 year old boy slashes a 10 year old with a knife!

I watch the news and read the paper like everybody else every day, sometimes I find it hard to believe what goes on in the UK although I'm sure Canadian shores are not perfect I have to believe violence is not escalating like it is here.

I have two young Girls 10 and 5 I'm almost frightened to let them out.

For young Rhys, GOD REST HIS YOUNG SOLE. I shed a tear for his family after watching them in the news and I have to say for them I am absoutely.

Gutted

wizzard

Don't move to Toronto then. Actually it's perfectly safe and a great place to live but there are just as many headline grabbing 24/7 incidents of pointless violence to report. Most taken in context happen in certain areas/neighbourhoods and usually involve people known to each other but there is the fair share of bystander 'wrong place wrong time' stuff like 15 year old girls shot on boxing day while shopping and 12 year old kids shot in their schools and so forth. In truth violent crime is decreasing but the number reported in the news increases in an attempt to fill the demand for 24 hour news about everything, the detail is more explicit etc.
If you have a look at violent crime going back through the decades it rarely changes and people were just as insane then as they are now.

celine_uk

im sure shooting are rare in england compared to toronto for sure

dingbat

They are. I have lost count of the local shootings/stabbings/criminal incidents round here in the past few weeks. I wonder what type of society people think they are coming to, Anne of Green Gables with an iPod?

dbd33

Much as it pains me to say it, I think the emigrants have a point. The rate of youth crime in urban Canada and urban England is, I think, about the same but in both countries it's localised. People emigrating from the UK carry equity with them, they sell houses in dodgy areas and have enough to buy into better areas in Canada, they see less crime and it is better for them. The fact that, if they had more money in the UK they could buy the same lack of crime is irrelevant to them, Canada's better because they are relatively better off.

dingbat

So that would explain it. I came from a relatively decent part of London and ended up in hell. No seriously, I do see your point, of course.

Calgal

LOL

Mrs Miggins

Quite! I agree!

Mrs M x

Craftybanshee

I can just imagine! Burn her she's a witch! Scream the locals when they see Anne ....

mclauchlan35

It just seems that the Serious Youth crimes are escalating in the uk at a alarming rate.

celine_uk

people get shot here every week... but then again i dont live the jane/finch area of toronto, the media here in canada reports that deaths caused by guns is very low in the UK compared to north America and that is simply because it far easier to get firearms here im sure, you can go into Canadian tire and buy ammo for god sakes lol

celine_uk

very good point dbd33

rlogan

Move as far West as you can. Its all Peace and Love here
We have one cop on duty at any one time in our community of 11,000 and he/she usually spend the night sittng outside the bar making sure people dont drive home.

dbd33

Four people have been shot dead within half a mile of our office in the past two years and it's downtown, not at Jane/Finch. My daughter works in a trauma unit of a hospital here and always has at least one patient with a GSW, one week all the patients had been shot. Mostly they're shot while in the area called the entertainment district.

We hear a lot here about knife crime in the UK, at which my American partner mutters "see, gun control does work". Maybe Canadians are less violent than Brits but understand that here everyone who is mildly interested in having a gun can have one. Getting a gun in the UK is still not something every fourteen year old can do.

RobinHood

He's right you know.