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Old Feb 14th 2008 | 12:14 am
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Here is a question for all you tradespeople out there.
In industrial jobs in canada is it similar to the u.k where as metric tends to be the norm now where as in the past imperial size spanners , taps , dies etc where used more frequently ?
The reason why im asking is that im having a sort out (hopefully in anticipation of our move) & was wondering if i should put all my old imperial tools , taps ,dies etc on ebay or car boot sale.
they are mostly b.s.w / b.s.f /a.f.
 
Old Feb 14th 2008 | 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by WICKERMAN
Here is a question for all you tradespeople out there.
In industrial jobs in canada is it similar to the u.k where as metric tends to be the norm now where as in the past imperial size spanners , taps , dies etc where used more frequently ?
The reason why im asking is that im having a sort out (hopefully in anticipation of our move) & was wondering if i should put all my old imperial tools , taps ,dies etc on ebay or car boot sale.
they are mostly b.s.w / b.s.f /a.f.
Keep them; you'll need them. Canada is a hideous mix of metric and imperial but all my tools are imperial, all the materials I buy are imperial and all the fasteners I buy are imperial. That won't change unless the USA goes metric.
 
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Working in manufacturing everything is imperial. Apart from the things that are metric. As Souv says it's a bit of a nightmare. Bring your imperial tools as well as the metric ones. That way the only thing you have to buy here are Robertson screwdrivers!
 
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
Keep them; you'll need them. Canada is a hideous mix of metric and imperial but all my tools are imperial, all the materials I buy are imperial and all the fasteners I buy are imperial. That won't change unless the USA goes metric.
I agree with Souvenir. You will need to be proficient in both metric and imperial due to our neighbours.
 
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Originally Posted by WICKERMAN
Here is a question for all you tradespeople out there.
In industrial jobs in canada is it similar to the u.k where as metric tends to be the norm now where as in the past imperial size spanners , taps , dies etc where used more frequently ?
The reason why im asking is that im having a sort out (hopefully in anticipation of our move) & was wondering if i should put all my old imperial tools , taps ,dies etc on ebay or car boot sale.
they are mostly b.s.w / b.s.f /a.f.
All construction/architectural type drawings that need to be filed with the local municipality need to be in metric and in many cases just confuse things if they are also in imperial. In my experience Quebec is even further ahead of things in terms of total metric conversion.

Most people under about the age of 40 and anybody born outside of Canada/USA/UK of any age is completely metric.
 
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Originally Posted by clynnog
All construction/architectural type drawings that need to be filed with the local municipality need to be in metric and in many cases just confuse things if they are also in imperial. In my experience Quebec is even further ahead of things in terms of total metric conversion.

Most people under about the age of 40 and anybody born outside of Canada/USA/UK of any age is completely metric.
You wish. In Ontario the land is surveyed in acres. New drawings carry the dimensions in imperial with translations into metric.

I thought of you on Sunday night. I asked my daughter, born and educated here, age 26, what it was like camping in Algonquin on the weekend. "Cold" she said "11 degrees". That gave even me pause as my generation uses F for temperatures above zero and C for those below. "That governmental chap on the expats board wouldn't like that" I thought, "that's not the regulated way to speak".

Fact is, in Ontario for the forseeable future, both sets of tools will be required and, for the time being, one must know metric while primarily using imperial. Inshallah, the government's silly fetish will pass in time and we'll fall in line with our master's to the south.
 
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You wish. In Ontario the land is surveyed in acres. New drawings carry the dimensions in imperial with translations into metric.

I thought of you on Sunday night. I asked my daughter, born and educated here, age 26, what it was like camping in Algonquin on the weekend. "Cold" she said "11 degrees". That gave even me pause as my generation uses F for temperatures above zero and C for those below. "That governmental chap on the expats board wouldn't like that" I thought, "that's not the regulated way to speak".

Fact is, in Ontario for the forseeable future, both sets of tools will be required and, for the time being, one must know metric while primarily using imperial. Inshallah, the government's silly fetish will pass in time and we'll fall in line with our master's to the south.
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

master's?

Shame on you.
 
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Originally Posted by clynnog
Most people under about the age of 40 and anybody born outside of Canada/USA/UK of any age is completely metric.

Don't be silly. Who doesn't think in terms of drinking a pint and how many miles per gallon their car does?

Canada is utterly screwed up when it comes to metric vs imperial, largely due to the influence of dbd's "master's" down south. I don't see that changing anytime soon, no matter how much regulation is applied. Market forces will overcome.
 
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

master's?

Shame on you.
I left it alone until there was a obvious fallacy. clynnog's idea that Canada has gone metric is as accurate as my belief that no one but immigrants buys snow tyres. There's the germ of an idea there but it's way overstated.
 
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Canada is utterly screwed up when it comes to metric vs imperial, largely due to the influence of dbd's "master's" down south.
I don't think that's the case, the Americans didn't tell the Canadians to go a bit metrical, they did it themselves in the mistaken belief that the Americans were going to ask. It's a good example of a situation where the government should have done nothing.
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I left it alone until there was a obvious fallacy. clynnog's idea that Canada has gone metric is as accurate as my belief that no one but immigrants buys snow tyres. There's the germ of an idea there but it's way overstated.
As of November this year, snow tyres will be mandatory in QC.
 
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

master's?

Shame on you.
Our master's line. Which is measured in feet and inches.

We use metric units at work, but then I bet even the Americans use microlitres - there doesn't seem to be a unit of volume that goes below the minim (61 µl).
 
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I don't think that's the case, the Americans didn't tell the Canadians to go a bit metrical, they did it themselves in the mistaken belief that the Americans were going to ask. It's a good example of a situation where the government should have done nothing.
I think you miss my point. Canada can implement metric to the bureaucrats delight. Since most of our trade is with the Imperial empire to the south, we're going to have to continue to use imperial measures. End of!
 
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
As of November this year, snow tyres will be mandatory in QC.
Yes, I've read that, though not the fine print. On the face of it it seems bizarre but I expect there are all manner of exceptions and exemptions. What about allophone tyres?
 
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Originally Posted by bazzz;
Our master's line. Which is measured in feet and inches.

We use metric units at work, but then I bet even the Americans use microlitres - there doesn't seem to be a unit of volume that goes below the minim (61 µl).
59.19 microlitres. But everything's bigger down there, eh?
 


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