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magnumpi Mar 22nd 2017 3:31 am

London shooting
 
Few hurt unsure if any dead yet

U.K. police shoot assailant after gunfire heard near Parliament - World - CBC News

spouse of scouse Mar 22nd 2017 3:36 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12210442)

FFS :(

magnumpi Mar 22nd 2017 3:55 am

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Witnesses said a vehicle struck several people on the bridge, and photos showed a car plowed into railings.

At least four people were lying on the ground on Westminster Bridge near Parliament, some bleeding heavily and apparently unconscious.

mikelincs Mar 22nd 2017 5:08 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12210462)
Witnesses said a vehicle struck several people on the bridge, and photos showed a car plowed into railings.

At least four people were lying on the ground on Westminster Bridge near Parliament, some bleeding heavily and apparently unconscious.

One woman dead on the bridge, and an officer injured in the HoP before the assailant was shot by the armed officers. being treated as a terror incident until more is know, but given the place it was it would seem that a terror incident is most likely.

magnumpi Mar 22nd 2017 5:20 am

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The perpetrator managed to run down a group of French school children before being shot.

Shard Mar 22nd 2017 6:19 am

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A horrific incident. Four dead, twenty injured.

SchnookoLoly Mar 22nd 2017 6:20 am

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Up to four dead. :(

Piff Poff Mar 22nd 2017 8:33 am

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So senseless í ½í¸¢

Pulaski Mar 22nd 2017 8:50 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12210513)
The perpetrator managed to run down a group of French school children before being shot.

That's ironic, given the up-coming French elections.

magnumpi Mar 22nd 2017 9:08 am

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Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 12210664)
So senseless � ����

99.9999999% of the worlds population would agree, but there are a few that support this sort of hatred and carnage :(

Pulaski Mar 22nd 2017 9:13 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12210700)
99.9999999% of the worlds population would agree, but there are a few that support this sort of hatred and carnage :(

I think that many 9's = "one in a billion", which severely underestimates the magnitude of the problem. Given issues in a number of countries I would guess nearer to 99.999% (1 in 100,000 or about 70,000 out of 7billion). I fear even that may be an underestimate. :(

Shard Mar 22nd 2017 9:22 pm

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Pleased that attacker was shot dead, it was annoying seeing him on an NHS stretcher potentially consuming scarce resources. Surprised that the policeman victim was unarmed, given the high profile location of parliament.

Pulaski Mar 23rd 2017 12:12 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12211001)
Pleased that attacker was shot dead, it was annoying seeing him on an NHS stretcher potentially consuming scarce resources. ....

:goodpost:

magnumpi Mar 23rd 2017 12:43 am

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The attacker was British born and on Mi5 radar, the latest news says they have arrested several people linked to this chap.

mikelincs Mar 23rd 2017 2:01 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12211169)
The attacker was British born and on Mi5 radar, the latest news says they have arrested several people linked to this chap.

8 arrested, and the car was hired from the attackers home city, Birmingham

mikelincs Mar 23rd 2017 2:14 am

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Latest information is that one of those killed was an American.

London attack: British-born attacker 'known to MI5' - BBC News

Kurt Cochran from Utah killed in terror attack in Westminster, wife Melissa seriously injured, family spokesman says

ann m Mar 23rd 2017 2:38 am

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I'm not sure how to word this but isn't it fitting that the headlines are swamped with talk of terrorism today, and maybe the horror and chatter will overshadow a certain funeral taking place in Northern Ireland. I'd rather we remember PC Keith Palmer today than that other, er, person. :(

beckiwoo Mar 23rd 2017 3:07 am

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What disgusted me was what Donald Trump's son tweeted about the London mayor. No condolences or anything.

Did Donald Trump even send any 'deepest sympathy' message?

mikelincs Mar 23rd 2017 3:08 am

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Originally Posted by beckiwoo (Post 12211330)
What disgusted me was what Donald Trump's son tweeted about the London mayor. No condolences or anything.

Did Donald Trump even send any 'deepest sympathy' message?

I think he did.

BristolUK Mar 23rd 2017 3:14 am

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Copycat attempt in Belgium
Belgian police arrest man who tried to drive into crowd in Antwerp

magnumpi Mar 23rd 2017 3:14 am

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This Is his only comment regarding London

His son reacted to Mayor Khan

“London mayor says terror attacks ‘part and parcel’ of living in a major city,” the Independent’s headline breathlessly announced.

BristolUK Mar 23rd 2017 3:16 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12211340)
His son reacted to Mayor Khan saying something like if you live in a city then you should expect to be a victim of terrorists

Well not quite what he said, plus it was 6 months ago whereas the infant Trump was making it appear as if the mayor said it yesterday.

ETA - ah, I see you amended it :thumbup:

magnumpi Mar 23rd 2017 3:19 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12211341)
Well not quite what he said, plus it was 6 months ago whereas the infant Trump was making it appear as if the mayor said it yesterday.

Fooled me !! Lol Oh well. I changed my post as I found what he actually said

mikelincs Mar 23rd 2017 3:21 am

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Ohh well, we could have expected this, apparently it's all Tony Blair's fault, so says that UK political heavyweight, Nigel Farage..

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nigel-fara...125848273.html

magnumpi Mar 23rd 2017 3:24 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12211345)
Ohh well, we could have expected this, apparently it's all Tony Blair's fault, so says that UK political heavyweight, Nigel Farage..

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nigel-fara...125848273.html

What a dick, the guy was British born n bred FFS

mikelincs Mar 23rd 2017 3:27 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12211346)
What a dick, the guy was British born n bred FFS

Alternative facts.. :lol:

Danny B Mar 23rd 2017 3:29 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12211341)
Well not quite what he said, plus it was 6 months ago whereas the infant Trump was making it appear as if the mayor said it yesterday.

ETA - ah, I see you amended it :thumbup:

I think Trump Jr was trying to say that we should try and break this awful cycle instead of just accepting that these attacks are now part of living in a big city. :(

Howefamily Mar 23rd 2017 3:44 am

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I see comments all over photos in social media of those outraged that the gunman was on a stretcher. I imagine that in addition to medics being required to protect life regardless of how they feel, the police would have wanted that scumbug to survive for questioning at the very least.


Also, they are martyrs, they give up their life for their cause. They shouldnt be allowed that but instead they should have to live the uncomfortable life of max security - just my two cents....


shame he didnt make it

dave_j Mar 23rd 2017 3:46 am

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What I found praiseworthy about the immediate police response was the restrained and controlled use of firearms and I can only suggest that this results from careful and intensive training. A maximum of four shots put the man down and made the situation safe.
I am prompted to compare this with a number of shootings undertaken by US policemen, one awful comparison was reported in 2015. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...7-times-police

Danny B Mar 23rd 2017 4:04 am

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Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12211362)
What I found praiseworthy about the immediate police response was the restrained and controlled use of firearms and I can only suggest that this results from careful and intensive training. A maximum of four shots put the man down and made the situation safe.
I am prompted to compare this with a number of shootings undertaken by US policemen, one awful comparison was reported in 2015. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...7-times-police

UK Police was formed on the principle of "policing by consent" rather than by force.

When I occasionally catch a glimpse of a UK cop show, I am still amazed that this principle still exists today. No guns, people placed under arrest without handcuffs and shoved into the back of a Police car with no prisoner partition.

Shard Mar 23rd 2017 4:07 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12211372)
UK Police was formed on the principle of "policing by consent" rather than by force.

When I occasionally catch a glimpse of a UK cop show, I am still amazed that this principle still exists today. No guns, people placed under arrest without handcuffs and shoved into the back of a Police car with no prisoner partition.

Yes, good police system in the UK.

Paul_Shepherd Mar 23rd 2017 4:20 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12211375)
Yes, good police system in the UK.


Yes very good.

I am amazed that in 2017 the UK police are still unarmed....but with these disgusting terrorist attacks on the rise....I can see that changing in the near future. It will be a sad day when it does happen.

magnumpi Mar 23rd 2017 4:23 am

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This sort of thing does not help the Muslim cause?? A question I ask is this Iman preached anti Jewish hate speak on Dec 23 last year, so why didn't anyone who was at the speech, in the mosque speak out about this when it actually happened ?

Imam calling for Jews to be killed in sermon at Montreal mosque draws police complaint - Montreal - CBC News

Paul_Shepherd Mar 23rd 2017 4:54 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12211386)
This sort of thing does not help the Muslim cause?? A question I ask is this Iman preached anti Jewish hate speak on Dec 23 last year, so why didn't anyone who was at the speech, in the mosque speak out about this when it actually happened ?

Imam calling for Jews to be killed in sermon at Montreal mosque draws police complaint - Montreal - CBC News

:goodpost:

This has been my point for a long time! if i were a devout muslim...i would be utterly appalled that my religion was being tarnished in this way.

mikelincs Mar 23rd 2017 5:39 am

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Khalid Masood, police today named the attacker and killer of three people.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/london-ter...155254044.html

beckiwoo Mar 23rd 2017 7:24 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12211352)
I think Trump Jr was trying to say that we should try and break this awful cycle instead of just accepting that these attacks are now part of living in a big city. :(

I think Trump Junior needs to focus on his and his father's own country then other countries terrorist precautions.

plasticcanuck Mar 23rd 2017 7:42 am

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Actually using a motorized vehicle is the perfect "weapon" to carry out such attacks. No need to buy and secrete guns, explosives, knives, chemicals and as exhibited by the Berlin Christmas attack. Many people can be killed and/or injured at one time, with a reasonable chance the culprit could get away.

magnumpi Mar 23rd 2017 7:49 am

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Originally Posted by plasticcanuck (Post 12211528)
Actually using a motorized vehicle is the perfect "weapon" to carry out such attacks. No need to buy and secrete guns, explosives, knives, chemicals and as exhibited by the Berlin Christmas attack. Many people can be killed and/or injured at one time, with a reasonable chance the culprit could get away.

The vehicle used was a rental. Imagine how the guy feels who handed over the keys, obviously he had no idea this car was going to kill people but, how is that going to affect people who work in rental car businesses now when everyday Muslim looking folk go to rent or upgrade to a bigger SUV

macadian Mar 23rd 2017 8:25 am

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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12211383)
Yes very good.

I am amazed that in 2017 the UK police are still unarmed....but with these disgusting terrorist attacks on the rise....I can see that changing in the near future. It will be a sad day when it does happen.

Was the early 70's when I became a copper in Scotland. We all reckoned then that we would be armed within the following ten years or so. I retired early 2000's. More officers are armed now however, still not in general terms. I suppose it becomes more likely as time goes on, but still a ways away yet. Without considering any other factors, cost of doing so would be staggering! It's just a pity that the unfortunate officer murdered yesterday had not been armed as it's probable the outcome would have been different. Just an opinion. It certainly surprised me, given his duties, that he was not.

Shard Mar 23rd 2017 10:36 am

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It appears that the it was the bodyguard of a minister that in fact shot the attacker.


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