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iaink Nov 8th 2012 5:59 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 
You are not the only one with an engineering degree...I just remembered I did a term or two of economics during my undergraduate studies. Obviously didnt make much of an impression on me...

From my expat perspective Im more concerned that Liverpool will have to find £200M for the Anfield redevelopment, while fellow lower/midtable strugglers West Ham will get a more heavily subsided stadium upgrade and gain an advantage from that.

If I was a UK taxpayer I would be pretty pissed about subsidising a multi million pound premiership footy club, it shouldnt really be the governments place, and given all the planning involved its a bit bizarre that these legacy issues were not determined long before the games ended IMO.

The argument in favour of bidding for big ticket international events like the Olympics, world cup etc has traditionally been that its a stimulus for economic growth. If people realise its just a huge subsidised ego fest and stop buying into that then the whole concept will die, but as its now so far from the Corinthian ideals of deCoubertin maybe that's not a bad thing. Just make it like the XGames and be done with it.

Alan2005 Nov 8th 2012 6:01 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10373114)
If people realise its just a huge subsidised ego fest...

But this is what everyone thinks about it. As long as the sporting side goes ok it's just ignored/forgiven.

ultrarunner Nov 8th 2012 6:16 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10373114)
If I was a UK taxpayer I would be pretty pissed about subsidising a multi million pound premiership footy club,

But you are not, so you shouldn't be losing sleep over it. So memory is not what it use to be then?

Better keep playing that saxophone more often or is it a flute that you have? ;)

Oink Nov 8th 2012 6:22 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10373114)
You are not the only one with an engineering degree...I just remembered I did a term or two of economics during my undergraduate studies. Obviously didnt make much of an impression on me...

.

Took quite a few maths courses in the poly-tech dept. with engineering students, it made a big impression on me.

cheeky_monkey Nov 8th 2012 7:15 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10373114)
You are not the only one with an engineering degree...I just remembered I did a term or two of economics during my undergraduate studies. Obviously didnt make much of an impression on me...

From my expat perspective Im more concerned that Liverpool will have to find £200M for the Anfield redevelopment, while fellow lower/midtable strugglers West Ham will get a more heavily subsided stadium upgrade and gain an advantage from that.

If I was a UK taxpayer I would be pretty pissed about subsidising a multi million pound premiership footy club, it shouldnt really be the governments place, and given all the planning involved its a bit bizarre that these legacy issues were not determined long before the games ended IMO.

If its not say used for football and then athletics and cricket in the summer..what else would utilise such a stadium on a weekly basis???

iaink Nov 8th 2012 7:20 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10373234)
If its not say used for football and then athletics and cricket in the summer..what else would utilise such a stadium on a weekly basis???

When it was proposed the legacy was to be as the national athletics stadium... the theory being that the footy clubs had enough money to build their own stadia if they wanted/ needed one.

cheeky_monkey Nov 8th 2012 7:23 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10373245)
When it was proposed the legacy was to be as the national athletics stadium... the theory being that the footy clubs had enough money to build their own stadia if they wanted/ needed one.

tell that to Man City..Plus athletics isn't a winter sport..what you going to use it for the other 9 months of the year?

iaink Nov 8th 2012 7:27 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10373249)
tell that to Man City..Plus athletics isn't a winter sport..what you going to use it for the other 9 months of the year?

Im just saying, all the justification before hand was that it would continue to be a focal point for UK athletics, which really doesnt have an alternative world class stadium to turn to. All thats been pushed to the wayside, so so much for "Legacy", its just going to be yet another footy stadium.

Man City were on board from the get go to take over the Commonwealth Stadium as I understood it.

The economics of the Manchester games made a lot more sense than the Olympics in terms of sustainability and legacy usage.

cheeky_monkey Nov 8th 2012 7:38 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10373255)
Im just saying, all the justification before hand was that it would continue to be a focal point for UK athletics, which really doesnt have an alternative world call stadium to turn to. All thats been pushed to the wayside, so so much for "Legacy", its just going to be yet another footy stadium.

Man City were on board from the get go to take over the Commonwealth Stadium as I understood it.

The economics of the Manchester games made a lot more sense than the Olympics in terms of sustainability and legacy usage.

my understanding it would still be used for athletics during the summer months unless things have changed.

Alan2005 Nov 8th 2012 7:55 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10373274)
my understanding it would still be used for athletics during the summer months unless things have changed.

I sometimes wonder if people even bothered to click on the link. The story even says the reasons the bids have to be worked on is because they didn't do a good enough job for the world athletics championship in 2017.

Animal Nov 8th 2012 8:35 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 10373099)
Must be another boring in the small town

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zK0pyFCvxb...oze_button.jpg

:confused:

Thought I got the auto mailer saying someone had posted something else in this thread. obviosuly not. :)

cheeky_monkey Nov 8th 2012 8:39 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10373304)
I sometimes wonder if people even bothered to click on the link. The story even says the reasons the bids have to be worked on is because they didn't do a good enough job for the world athletics championship in 2017.

But it doesn't say the bids excluded the venue for athletics either

Alan2005 Nov 8th 2012 9:08 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10373358)
But it doesn't say the bids excluded the venue for athletics either

No, it sounds like who-ever wins has to accommodate any big international sporting events. As I said earlier, I just don't get the indignation about this.

Oink Nov 8th 2012 9:12 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10373395)
No, it sounds like who-ever wins has to accommodate any big international sporting events. As I said earlier, I just don't get the indignation about this.

Because sanctimony is intoxicating.

Jingsamichty Nov 8th 2012 9:25 am

Re: The London 2012 Olympic Stadium.
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10373404)
Because sanctimony is intoxicating.

Sounds like a Depeche Mode song...


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