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What do people think about leaving address of resume?

Seems companies think Chilliwack is in the middle of nowhere, and based on some feedback from a couple of companies, it's a possibility companies are iffy on people who have to commute, and kind of thinking its a possibility having address on resume might keep companies from even calling.

I have had to move on to nearby city's 30-40 mins away as I have largely run out of places to apply locally and there are more jobs advertised in the larger city's to the west.

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I would imagine if selected for interview, they'd ask on contact or maybe even discard the application in favour of others with a known and 'approved' travel distance.

Not having a contact address at all might suggest the applicant was 'unsettled' in some way.

Maybe just a street and postcode so it's less obvious?

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That last bit doesn't make sense. A postcode makes it very clear where you live.

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Possibly.

We are unsettled a bit and I am sure the being unsettled a bit hurts me as well. It's obvious when looking on the resume, I have moved a lot over the years.

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Well you could probably look it up. If you have the time and inclination. How many people can look at a postcode and know exactly where it is and that it's not shared?

Does everywhere have it's own identifier and it is always a particular area and no two places ever share it?

My postcode back in England was BS3. I lived in Totterdown part of which was also BS4 and BS4 was also a place called Brislington, as well as Knowle. BS3 was also Bedminster, which was different again.

Knowle has a certain reputation. But if you decided you didn't want to employ someone from Knowle so you disregarded applicants from BS4, then you'd be ruling out the applicants from Brislington that doesn't have the same rep. Is it not similar in Canada?

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Stick a postcode xyz abc into Google maps or MapQuest and it will nail you to within a couple of houses if you live in an urban area.

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Postal codes in Canada can pin point down to the street of where one is.

Type in your postal code into google maps.


(Looks like Souvy and myself were typing replies at basically the same time.)

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JS put yourself in the other position as the HR guy that you receive a CV with no address.... what would you do?

If it was me as the HR person & there wasn't an address on the CV, I would toss it in the trash, after all 'what is this person hiding or likely to hide in the future?

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Maybe just get a po box from Canada mail, use your mailing address on your resume?

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Yes, as indeed they can in Bristol and no doubt other parts of the UK.

But do you have the time and inclination to do that if the three hundred resumes you receive only show a postcode?

If you see V2P 8A4, do you instinctively know the 8A4 without looking it up or do you just have some general idea where V2P is?

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I don't tend to take someone's location into account (unless they're out of Province) when reviewing resumes, I assume that they have considered the commute and are willing to do it. I may ask them if they have considered the commute time when I interview, but only if it's a role that has a really early start time.

If the role you're applying to asks for a cover letter, you can always use that to mention you're aware of the commute and are OK with it? Failing that, you can leave off your address and just have your contact phone number and email address on the resume, the area code will be sufficient to show you're in the Lower Mainland without giving away your exact location.

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+1 (JS, Tigger's a recruiter)

I've never put my address on a resume, just my phone number and email address.

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Took seconds to place it next to Chilliwack airport.

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Now multiply that up for all the resumes you got with a postcode only. It's a bit different then.

Near the airport. I thought I picked the postcode on the city/town hall website :unsure:

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I might be somewhat responsible for JS posting this question.

I'm no longer in a position where I "vet" job applications. When I was, I think no address on a CV would have jumped out at me.

An address outside the immediate area, would not necessarily have thrown up a red flag.

ETA: I was typing as Siouxsie & Tigger posted. Read their posts, not mine ;).

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The city offices are near the airport but not right next to the airport, but the postal code you used is indeed listed on the city's site for their mailing address.

The photo shows approx where city hall is in relation to the airport.

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You did. It's next to the airport.

Let's say I have 300 postcodes to look at.

About one minute a pop. That is about a half day of work, to weed out people that might cost me thousands.

Seems cheap to me.

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Easier still to have a list of the first part of postcodes (within the area that you are recruiting in) that are acceptable, surely?

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Sounds good. I know nothing really about hiring and seems to be conflicting info out there about so much, never know what to do...lol :thumbup:

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Fair enough.

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Of course it is.

I am one of the older posters, so I'm always right.;)

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It never occurred to me till Siouxie said that she didn't include an address to not include mine! Thank you Siouxie:thumbup: I'm in Fredericton...it's the size of Brighton hits The Walking Dead!

Really appreciated :thumbup:

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On holiday one year, I tried sending a postcard to just my name and post code in the UK.

It did get there.

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8550 Young Rd
CHILLIWACK BC V2P 8A4

https://www.canadapost.ca/pca/

On the other hand, I likley would not bother for an application and would only consider it for an interview if short of applicants or the applicant had something that was of particular interest in the way of skills or experience.

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I really think overall I have too many barriers at this point to be employed. 2 years almost of not working, lots of gaps, no skills to speak of, low education.

I don't have a whole lot going for me, and I am not sure employment will ever come my way again.

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No JS- you have pointed out barriers which cannot be ignored but a lot of people get jobs having had extended periods away from work, often away from the workplace as a result of mental health problems. as you can imagine, we come across a lot of patients with both physical and mental health problems-around us certainly is not overflowing with jobs be they skilled or jobs which don't require special skills.

With determination and some guidance, they do find work, they may not want to stay in the initial jobs long-term but ultimately they then progress having used these jobs as a stepping stone and thereby, produce continuity of jobs which looks better on resumes and then go on from there climbing up the ladder to get to jobs that they actually do want to do.

It must be very hard sometimes for you talking on this forum about jobs, looking for jobs and what other people are doing, I can very much appreciate how this might feel. I am sure that you get very frustrated. I sometimes wonder whether your quest for an ideal area is just simply a request for Nirvana-nowhere is ideal,there are some places which really are not good for you- perhaps they are the ones to avoid but to be honest most places have something to offer if you look deep enough-obviously the accommodation at a reasonable price is crucial to you both as well as accommodation for the menagerie including Charlee!

What I am trying to say is that other people have had these perceived barriers put in front of them and they have managed to progress. Difficult certainly, mental health issues often similar to yourself and indeed sometimes worse but I am trying to instill in that no one will write you off unfortunately, if you do develop a bit of a nihilistic attitude, I know it is tempting, you will just stay away from trying to work-you will continue to drift on to enforced alternative destinations and accommodation with little prospect of employment and consequently being a poorly self-esteemed and unhappy chap -not a great combination for your morale and at mental health

No one will write to you off, you just needs to be determined, to continue and get out there and look, obviously rejection when you apply for jobs is very hard, this happens to everybody and I would be amazed if there was one-person on this forum who hasnt had a significant rejection issue in their lives, commonly more than one I think your attitude towards driving needs to change, not large distances just so that you are a little more mobile locally if this coincides with your wife's needs driving wise.this will increase your range slightly you don't have to drive to Vancouver-I feel that this thought and plan was suspect and unsustainable both from the strain of driving as well as financial reward

I know I keep on harping back to the dog walking business but I think that that is one that you really seriously need to consider and not dismiss. Local, you don't need any additional training-there may be some free training at the local Dog training clubs which is frequently free just so that you can handle unfamiliar dogs and also how to expertly and safely handle more than one dog which is not your own. You may also then get to know the dog owners and in the canine environment that you would then be in, you may well get potential clients without any advertising needed! This would certainly be a bonus! I'm wondering whether perhaps someone from community futures might give you some guidance on this-if not them, another organisation to try and help you buildup a basic business plan for this possible small business setup. I really cannot say that there should be any significant large setup expenses, cheap advertising should be very easy if not free putting up advert's particularly in vet surgeries,pet shops etc. Facebook also, people then start looking when other of their friends are using the service and your reputations spreads. This was done by our initial dog walker when me moved into Canada. Then buildup slowly, only taking an work when you feel comfortable. This certainly should not start ramping up stress with you. Start gentle and hopefully that will be less likely to happen as you can more or less choose the hours.

Just some thoughts-I think you need a little bit of an injection of optimistic spirits-clearly the cold weather has been doing your head in and cabin fever seems to be settling! Good luck-Pick our brains if needs be, as you have seen on the pets thread there are so many dog owners on this forum and I am sure that they would readily volunteer advice to you. I would still perhaps look to local advice bureaus if they don't cost anything to try and help you out.
Good luck-winter is a great time to plan-it is to damn cold for anything else! :cool:

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The only thing I would add to the most excellent post above is that the daily exercise dog walking would provide would be a very good thing for you JS. I know for myself when I was at a very low place recently my partner forcing me to get out and exercise was a real godsend.

As for the address on a resume, I only have my name, email address and mobile phone number. A potential employer doesn't need to know where I live until I'm offered a job. The commute is my problem, not theirs.

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My two additions...

I don't put my address on my resume. Also if you apply for example through Indeed their website hides it anyway...

Ive been doing a bit of dog boarding. I use a site called dogvacay.com. You can set up a profile and people contact you about boarding. You can also do dog walking and other dog related services. They take their cut and provide insurance. Very like Airbnb.
Check it out...

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I absolutely agree with this, exercise is very good for both mental and physical health:thumbup:
Looks like a good resource. Interesting. In JS's case, I think he should just concentrate on dog walking - I think his landlord may have issues with a pack of pounds in the apartment! It certainly would though be helpful for other people considering this-I spotted the other post about somebody tried to set up dog boarding in Nova Scotia-if I ever get bored of trying to heal the sick, I wouldn't mind doing that job!

Apologies for the usual typing areas-I have a man cold and it was late!
Any thoughts on our suggestions JS?

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Have you ever tried Open Door Group? They offer programs to help people get back into work, they have employers they work with and help support employers who hire people with disabilities (both physical and mental) and other barriers to employment. Could be worth checking out? Open Door Group

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That is exactly what my stepson needs...except that here in NB it's only done for physical disabilities or where someone gets social assistance and he doesn't qualify for that because of the household income policy that leaves him without any kind of income.

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The dog goes for a walk almost daily, usually 20-30 mins.

I haven't heard of them, I do go to the work BC office locally, haven't gotten much help really, as they don't really seem geared towards those with barriers or disabilities, but I go to the meetings/classes.

I'll have to email the link above and see if you have to live in specific catchment area's, they seem more suited to helping those with barriers then the place out here.

No so much Nirvana or perfection, just rents are increasing at a faster rate then we can absorb, and it's concerning.

Neither of us like Chilliwack, we both hate living here, but it was the place we could find something we could sorta afford. Best place for us would be Vancouver proper as that is where the best mental health supports are.


Job wise I look as far as Abbotsford/Aldergrove and sometimes even in WA state since I can also work across the border.

Vancouver/Airport area etc is just too far as my wage level I agree. The cost of gas alone was something like $400/month at November prices.

I have no issue commuting to Abbotsford and do apply for jobs out that way as well as Chilliwack, even applied to a few places in Hope as it's not that far, 30-35 mins and easy highway driving.


I do best in jobs where I largely work alone, and work at my pace. That is why I do well in Night Audit at the job itself, largely work alone, little distractions can work at a pace I do well at but grave yard shifts destroy your mental health overtime and I simply can't maintain good mental health being awake all night, and sleeping all day.

If there were a night audit like job that worked during the day, then that would be a near perfect match.

Only long term job I had was the airline loading planes, never found it stressful, had downtime between flights to recover, and was largely enjoyable. Only downside to the job was when your last flight of the day was late...lol

I also did well when I did hotel security, wasn't boring, could walk around a 17 story building doing patrols, so the night went fast. I just can't do security at the moment in BC due to licensing requirements and mental health barrier.

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Would not your dog walking business enable you to do this???:confused:

Why are you so intent on travelling big distances? It doesn't make sense- you asked if we would and we said no!

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I am working on getting dog walking up and going, get some passing interest but nothing concrete or steady yet.

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Email address should suffice in lieu of address.

Based on a recent news article I saw, just don't call yourself Leroy...

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Good to hear:thumbup:
Plug us for any help/advice in the enterprise if you need it

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Excellent news! Well done!

You could also offer feeding, letting out or taken to the groomers or vet.. all things people need help with from time to time

If you want some practice (and free 'hands on training'), Chilliwack SPCA are looking for dog walkers http://www.spca.bc.ca/branches/chill...lliwack-1.html

:thumbsup:

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:goodpost:
That is a brilliant idea- That would give you experience in handling unruly docs with longer legs and way worse manners than Charlee! That would also look great when you could write experienced SPCA dog walker on your advertising when you had done some sessions

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Will do.

Will look into it, I did do some dog walking in the US over the years for the shelter there.

I am looking into dog vacay.



I see many postings for a few jobs that sound interesting and fulfilling, and they don't require huge amounts of education but do require some formal training, but man that training is hard to get in BC as tuition isn't very affordable.

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I initially thought you were trying to get into boarding which wouldn't be practical in view of renting but using the network to get dog walking is a great idea