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Mikeypm May 8th 2013 9:18 am

Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 
News Release — Improving passport services for Canadians

Ottawa, May 8, 2013 — Plans to expand passport services and make them more convenient and efficient were announced today by Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney and Human Resources and Skills Development Minister Diane Finley.

Effective July 2, primary responsibility for Passport Canada will move from the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade to Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC). This sensible move is in line with the duties CIC already performs, such as determining Canadian citizenship.

Bearing in mind the various threads on the forum from people waiting years and months for visas etc to be processed by CIC. Is passing passport services to CIC, I can not possibly see how this could go wrong?:rofl:

Anyone waiting for their passport back, dont worry it will be in the post sometime next year ;)

Novocastrian May 8th 2013 9:25 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 10699025)
News Release — Improving passport services for Canadians

Ottawa, May 8, 2013 — Plans to expand passport services and make them more convenient and efficient were announced today by Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney and Human Resources and Skills Development Minister Diane Finley.

Effective July 2, primary responsibility for Passport Canada will move from the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade to Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC). This sensible move is in line with the duties CIC already performs, such as determining Canadian citizenship.

Bearing in mind the various threads on the forum from people waiting years and months for visas etc to be processed by CIC. Is passing passport services to CIC, I can not possibly see how this could go wrong?:rofl:

Anyone waiting for their passport back, dont worry it will be in the post sometime next year ;)

Passport Canada (unlike CIC) is/was quite efficient. I can't see the point of messing with it.

Former Lancastrian May 8th 2013 9:28 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10699039)
Passport Canada (unlike CIC) is/was quite efficient. I can't see the point of messing with it.

Im sure someone in the private sector will do it for cheaper :ohmy:

Mikeypm May 8th 2013 9:29 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10699039)
Passport Canada (unlike CIC) is/was quite efficient. I can't see the point of messing with it.

That was what I was thinking, after all if CIC can not cope with its current work load how will they manage with the etc work?

Novocastrian May 8th 2013 9:30 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10699045)
Im sure someone in the private sector will do it for cheaper :ohmy:

Now there's a thought. Let's privatize CIC and be done with all this pointless bureaucracy. They could just give PR to the highest bidders.

Mikeypm May 8th 2013 9:31 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10699052)
Now there's a thought. Let's privatize CIC and be done with all this pointless bureaucracy.

It couldn't possibly get any worse if it was privatised?

Novocastrian May 8th 2013 9:33 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 10699049)
That was what I was thinking, after all if CIC can not cope with its current work load how will they manage with the etc work?

By rationalization and staffing cuts. Obviously.

Former Lancastrian May 8th 2013 9:34 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10699052)
Now there's a thought. Let's privatize CIC and be done with all this pointless bureaucracy. They could just give PR to the highest bidders.

Actually I would love to see them do it as a trial so to speak. I wonder what the cost of applications would be and what they would pay their workers etc etc.

Novocastrian May 8th 2013 9:35 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 10699058)
It couldn't possibly get any worse if it was privatised?

You don't think so?

Mikeypm May 8th 2013 9:46 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 
Having had first hand knowledge of private sector healthcare services and first hand knowledge of the over spending and mismanagement of the NHS, I would assume privatising could be a good thing

Novocastrian May 8th 2013 9:51 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 10699089)
Having had first hand knowledge of private sector healthcare services and first hand knowledge of the over spending and mismanagement of the NHS, I would assume privatising could be a good thing

Oh, you would? <thread drift alert>

Mikeypm May 8th 2013 9:54 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 
:confused:Thread drift

Not really just pondering FL's suggestion of privatisation

Former Lancastrian May 8th 2013 9:58 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 
Im wondering how this will work?
CIC have already closed their offices in Canada to walk in clients they now have to make appointments which can take 3 weeks or more.
So will we all now have to apply online to be issued or renew a passport?
If they use the software they have implemented for IEC applicants then we are truly ****ed.
Mines due for renewal in 2015 Id better apply now.

Novocastrian May 8th 2013 10:27 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10699108)
Im wondering how this will work?
CIC have already closed their offices in Canada to walk in clients they now have to make appointments which can take 3 weeks or more.
So will we all now have to apply online to be issued or renew a passport?
If they use the software they have implemented for IEC applicants then we are truly ****ed.
Mines due for renewal in 2015 Id better apply now.

Actually, before we go too far down this track, there's been no suggestion that I'm aware of that Passport Canada offices would stop operating as before. I just can't see the point of changing the oversight to CIC.

Mikeypm May 8th 2013 10:29 am

Re: Improving Passport Services For Canadians ?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10699152)
Actually, before we go too far down this track, there's been no suggestion that I'm aware of that Passport Canada offices would stop operating as before. I just can't see the point of changing the oversight to CIC.

It's old "if it aint broke why fix it" principle. Seems daft to change something that works fine where it is


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