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Stinkypup Mar 5th 2017 7:38 am

Importing goods from overseas
 
We are heading off to Blighty soon and my birthday occurs whilst we are away. I have a tad expensive taste in camera goods and am lusting after a new lightweight tripod. Looking at the potential places to purchase it, there are stores in Canada that I can buy online although I have bought from B&H photographic store in New York in the past online with great service. After taxes, which are applied at source when paying, the costs are about the same buying in Canada versus US.

Having researched, I have worked out the costs in the UK if I bought it in London from a store, I can reclaim the VAT back (not possible with online purchases over there) and then armed with an $800 personal allowance for importing it back would pay the duties and taxes on the residual amount up to the cost of my prezzie above the $800. On paper, it would end up costing a lot less if I bought it in the UK.

The CBSA website is helpful and tells you what you should do and has a duty/tax calculator (I put camera in as it doesn't have a tripod as an option)- it looks simple enough to me
Declare on declaration card, tell CBSA officer, then go pay taxes/duties whilst your luggage comes in.
Snoop worries about delayed flights - if connections are tight (2.5 hours) and the inbound flight is late, does it take long to sort? We fly into Calgary and then onto Kelowna. We have Nexus, do we have to go line up in the normal line if there is only an auto-booth and no CBSA officer dealing with Nexus travellers? What if we have to really leg it to get the connecting flight? If we missed the flight because of delayed flight and then lining up to pay the duty, my life wouldn't be worth living..to say I would be in the doghouse would be a serious understatement :(

Any helpful comments from FL would be appreciated or indeed anyone else who has done similar, importing anything which needs declaring from outside Canada. Also any feedback in claiming VAT back would be good. Normally UK photographic gear is way more expensive but not in this case so it seems like a no brainer..:confused:

Former Lancastrian Mar 5th 2017 8:12 am

Re: Importing goods from overseas
 
Use NEXUS on the way back however more kiosks for all travellers are slowly being installed so there will be more people queuing at kiosks eventually.
Collection of duties and taxes takes minutes not hours.
Connection times you have no control over especially if arriving flight is late.
you cannot combine exemptions so if expensive only 1 will be claiming it.
depending where you pay it will either be PST & GST or the HST combined.
Duty rate will be minimal if not even free.

Aviator Mar 5th 2017 8:17 am

Re: Importing goods from overseas
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197684)
We are heading off to Blighty soon and my birthday occurs whilst we are away. I have a tad expensive taste in camera goods and am lusting after a new lightweight tripod. Looking at the potential places to purchase it, there are stores in Canada that I can buy online although I have bought from B&H photographic store in New York in the past online with great service. After taxes, which are applied at source when paying, the costs are about the same buying in Canada versus US.

Having researched, I have worked out the costs in the UK if I bought it in London from a store, I can reclaim the VAT back (not possible with online purchases over there) and then armed with an $800 personal allowance for importing it back would pay the duties and taxes on the residual amount up to the cost of my prezzie above the $800. On paper, it would end up costing a lot less if I bought it in the UK.

The CBSA website is helpful and tells you what you should do and has a duty/tax calculator (I put camera in as it doesn't have a tripod as an option)- it looks simple enough to me
Declare on declaration card, tell CBSA officer, then go pay taxes/duties whilst your luggage comes in.
Snoop worries about delayed flights - if connections are tight (2.5 hours) and the inbound flight is late, does it take long to sort? We fly into Calgary and then onto Kelowna. We have Nexus, do we have to go line up in the normal line if there is only an auto-booth and no CBSA officer dealing with Nexus travellers? What if we have to really leg it to get the connecting flight? If we missed the flight because of delayed flight and then lining up to pay the duty, my life wouldn't be worth living..to say I would be in the doghouse would be a serious understatement :(

Any helpful comments from FL would be appreciated or indeed anyone else who has done similar, importing anything which needs declaring from outside Canada. Also any feedback in claiming VAT back would be good. Normally UK photographic gear is way more expensive but not in this case so it seems like a no brainer..:confused:

Not all stores in the UK participate in the VAT refund scheme. Every time I tried to do it, it was a pain in the arse. You have to carry the product with you and reclaim the VAT at the airport.

http://www.heathrow.com/file_source/...leaflet_EN.pdf

Sill prefer B & H and prepay taxes. So easy now with free shipping to Canada. Wait until they go on sale. Take a look at the Gitzo Carbon Fiber if you like light and the Acratech ball head. Both well made.

Most camera gear is free of duty, just sales taxes.

Jerseygirl Mar 5th 2017 8:24 am

Re: Importing goods from overseas
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197684)
We are heading off to Blighty soon and my birthday occurs whilst we are away. I have a tad expensive taste in camera goods and am lusting after a new lightweight tripod. Looking at the potential places to purchase it, there are stores in Canada that I can buy online although I have bought from B&H photographic store in New York in the past online with great service. After taxes, which are applied at source when paying, the costs are about the same buying in Canada versus US.

Having researched, I have worked out the costs in the UK if I bought it in London from a store, I can reclaim the VAT back (not possible with online purchases over there) and then armed with an $800 personal allowance for importing it back would pay the duties and taxes on the residual amount up to the cost of my prezzie above the $800. On paper, it would end up costing a lot less if I bought it in the UK.

The CBSA website is helpful and tells you what you should do and has a duty/tax calculator (I put camera in as it doesn't have a tripod as an option)- it looks simple enough to me
Declare on declaration card, tell CBSA officer, then go pay taxes/duties whilst your luggage comes in.
Snoop worries about delayed flights - if connections are tight (2.5 hours) and the inbound flight is late, does it take long to sort? We fly into Calgary and then onto Kelowna. We have Nexus, do we have to go line up in the normal line if there is only an auto-booth and no CBSA officer dealing with Nexus travellers? What if we have to really leg it to get the connecting flight? If we missed the flight because of delayed flight and then lining up to pay the duty, my life wouldn't be worth living..to say I would be in the doghouse would be a serious understatement :(

Any helpful comments from FL would be appreciated or indeed anyone else who has done similar, importing anything which needs declaring from outside Canada. Also any feedback in claiming VAT back would be good. Normally UK photographic gear is way more expensive but not in this case so it seems like a no brainer..:confused:

There are only certain stores who participate in the VAT refund scheme...i.e. M&S, Debs. Make sure the store you buy from is in the scheme. You must have your PP with you and the store fills in the paperwork complete with your PP details. You give this form in at the VAT office at the airport. You will have to ask whereabouts that is. The refund will either be sent on to you my mail or electronically.

You will not get the full amount of VAT refunded. Quite honestly if it were me for £800 I couldn't be bothered with the hassle.

Stinkypup Mar 5th 2017 8:46 am

Re: Importing goods from overseas
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12197707)
Use NEXUS on the way back however more kiosks for all travellers are slowly being installed so there will be more people queuing at kiosks eventually.
Collection of duties and taxes takes minutes not hours.
Connection times you have no control over especially if arriving flight is late.
you cannot combine exemptions so if expensive only 1 will be claiming it.
depending where you pay it will either be PST & GST or the HST combined.
Duty rate will be minimal if not even free.

Thanks for that. Presumably they will maintain manned Nexus kiosks? We have used the auto kiosks and they work well but I assume we have to speak to a CBSA officer if I'm over the limit of $800. Yeah, I knew that you can't combine exemptions.


Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 12197710)
Not all stores in the UK participate in the VAT refund scheme. Every time I tried to do it, it was a pain in the arse. You have to carry the product with you and reclaim the VAT at the airport.



http://www.heathrow.com/file_source/...leaflet_EN.pdf

Sill prefer B & H and prepay taxes. So easy now with free shipping to Canada. Wait until they go on sale. Take a look at the Gitzo Carbon Fiber if you like light and the Acratech ball head. Both well made.

Most camera gear is free of duty, just sales taxes.

I was looking at Park camera- I have used them before for a lens but bought online- we will be in London and they have them in stock and participate in the scheme- yes, Gitzo CF was indeed my target! I have bought from B&H both in person ( my favourite store visit ever! :thumbsup:) and online and like them a lot.


Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12197716)
There are only certain stores who participate in the VAT refund scheme...i.e. M&S, Debs. Make sure the store you buy from is in the scheme. You must have your PP with you and the store fills in the paperwork complete with your PP details. You give this form in at the VAT office at the airport. You will have to ask whereabouts that is. The refund will either be sent on to you my mail or electronically.

You will not get the full amount of VAT refunded. Quite honestly if it were me for £800 I couldn't be bothered with the hassle.

I'm not sure M&S sells tripods - sausage rolls and knickers, yes :lol:
I looked at the supplied links- thanks- it doesn't say how much you get back..the shop I would be using don't charge for the service on purchases over a certain amount of spend-does the proportion vary? Jeez , talk about women sticking together..you just give Snoop ammunition- ironic seeing as all women say when buying shoes or bags etc " it was on sale" - when guys look to save money they just get shot down in flames :unsure:

Having said that, the item cannot be used before return to Canada...we are going to the Lake District- that wouldn't work :thumbdown:

Former Lancastrian Mar 5th 2017 8:58 am

Re: Importing goods from overseas
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197734)
Thanks for that. Presumably they will maintain manned Nexus kiosks? We have used the auto kiosks and they work well but I assume we have to speak to a CBSA officer if I'm over the limit of $800. Yeah, I knew that you can't combine exemptions.






:

There are normally CBSA officers near the kiosks to help with people who can't figure out how to use them. Some Japanese think they are ATM's.
The kiosk will ask Do you exceed your personal exemption. Just select Yes.
Once the card prints out you will notice a $ sign imprinted on the card.

Stinkypup Mar 5th 2017 9:03 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12197743)
There are normally CBSA officers near the kiosks to help with people who can't figure out how to use them. Some Japanese think they are ATM's.
The kiosk will ask Do you exceed your personal exemption. Just select Yes.
Once the card prints out you will notice a $ sign imprinted on the card.

I tried to buy a burger from the first one:lol:


So then we can just go to the place to settle up with the amount payable without speaking to anyone?

Former Lancastrian Mar 5th 2017 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197734)
Thanks for that. Presumably they will maintain manned Nexus kiosks? We have used the auto kiosks and they work well but I assume we have to speak to a CBSA officer if I'm over the limit of $800. Yeah, I knew that you can't combine exemptions.



I was looking at Park camera- I have used them before for a lens but bought online- we will be in London and they have them in stock and participate in the scheme- yes, Gitzo CF was indeed my target! I have bought from B&H both in person ( my favourite store visit ever! :thumbsup:) and online and like them a lot.



I'm not sure M&S sells tripods - sausage rolls and knickers, yes :lol:
I looked at the supplied links- thanks- it doesn't say how much you get back..the shop I would be using don't charge for the service on purchases over a certain amount of spend-does the proportion vary? Jeez , talk about women sticking together..you just give Snoop ammunition- ironic seeing as all women say when buying shoes or bags etc " it was on sale" - when guys look to save money they just get shot down in flames :unsure:

Having said that, the item cannot be used before return to Canada...we are going to the Lake District- that wouldn't work :thumbdown:


Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197744)
I tried to buy a burger from the first one:lol:


So then we can just go to the place to settle up with the amount payable without speaking to anyone?

Yup collect the NEXUS ticket then collect bags and show declaration card and NEXUS ticket to officer at the exit who will direct you to the cashier unless you can pay before heading towards the exit.

Jerseygirl Mar 5th 2017 10:00 am

Re: Importing goods from overseas
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197734)
Thanks for that. Presumably they will maintain manned Nexus kiosks? We have used the auto kiosks and they work well but I assume we have to speak to a CBSA officer if I'm over the limit of $800. Yeah, I knew that you can't combine exemptions.



I was looking at Park camera- I have used them before for a lens but bought online- we will be in London and they have them in stock and participate in the scheme- yes, Gitzo CF was indeed my target! I have bought from B&H both in person ( my favourite store visit ever! :thumbsup:) and online and like them a lot.



I'm not sure M&S sells tripods - sausage rolls and knickers, yes :lol:
I looked at the supplied links- thanks- it doesn't say how much you get back..the shop I would be using don't charge for the service on purchases over a certain amount of spend-does the proportion vary? Jeez , talk about women sticking together..you just give Snoop ammunition- ironic seeing as all women say when buying shoes or bags etc " it was on sale" - when guys look to save money they just get shot down in flames :unsure:

Having said that, the item cannot be used before return to Canada...we are going to the Lake District- that wouldn't work :thumbdown:


First step would be to ask the store if they participate in the VAT refund scheme for overseas visitors. AFAIK only the huge chains do as I think they have to stand the VAT...or part of it. They should know because they will have the forms that have to be filled in by them and given to you with the receipt. If they don't participate...forget it...you won't get the VAT back.

VAT is not calculated on the first £XX...then the store will deduct its fee. Both amounts may differ from company to company if I remember correctly.

Stinkypup Mar 5th 2017 10:16 am

Re: Importing goods from overseas
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12197767)
First step would be to ask the store if they participate in the VAT refund scheme for overseas visitors. AFAIK only the huge chains do as I think they have to stand the VAT...or part of it. They should know because they will have the forms that have to be filled in by them and given to you with the receipt. If they don't participate...forget it...you won't get the VAT back.

VAT is not calculated on the first £XX...then the store will deduct its fee. Both amounts may differ from company to company if I remember correctly.

Ignores my facetious comments...unbelievable ;)

Yes.....the store participates in the scheme, has all the necessary forms and don't charge for sales over £400-they don't suggest that they would retain any portion of the VAT but there again they don't say they won't...I'm none the wiser now- you are trying to put me off aren't you JG?:lol:

https://www.parkcameras.com/faq- it is about halfway down- you probably won't read it though because they don't sell shoes :blink:

Jerseygirl Mar 5th 2017 10:27 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197777)
Ignores my facetious comments...unbelievable ;)

Yes.....the store participates in the scheme, has all the necessary forms and don't charge for sales over £400-they don't suggest that they would retain any portion of the VAT but there again they don't say they won't...I'm none the wiser now- you are trying to put me off aren't you JG?:lol:

https://www.parkcameras.com/faq- it is about halfway down- you probably won't read it though because they don't sell shoes :blink:

Sounds like you are good to go...but check if you would get 20% of the purchase price back. If not...exactly what the refund would be.

You're right I couldn't find it. :unsure:

Stinkypup Mar 5th 2017 10:43 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12197780)
Sounds like you are good to go...but check if you would get 20% of the purchase price back. If not...exactly what the refund would be.

You're right I couldn't find it. :unsure:

I'm still not about whether you can use it or not :frown:

I bet you could find it on this web site

Christian Louboutin United Kingdom Online Boutique

Jerseygirl Mar 5th 2017 10:51 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197789)
I'm still not about whether you can use it or not :frown:

I bet you could find it on this web site

Christian Louboutin United Kingdom Online Boutique

As my sig. says...the higher the heels...the closer to God. :D

bats Mar 5th 2017 11:40 am

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Just stuff it down yer trousers, no one will notice.

Stinkypup Mar 5th 2017 11:53 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12197822)
Just stuff it down yer trousers, no one will notice.

:eek: Matron!

I have become an extremely law abiding pup when travelling- any hint of misdemeanours potentially jeopardizes our Nexus status- Snoop would actually kill:( me

Siouxie Mar 5th 2017 3:08 pm

Re: Importing goods from overseas
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197777)
Ignores my facetious comments...unbelievable ;)

Yes.....the store participates in the scheme, has all the necessary forms and don't charge for sales over £400-they don't suggest that they would retain any portion of the VAT but there again they don't say they won't...I'm none the wiser now- you are trying to put me off aren't you JG?:lol:

https://www.parkcameras.com/faq- it is about halfway down- you probably won't read it though because they don't sell shoes :blink:

Can I reclaim the VAT?
We do operate the VAT reclaim scheme. However, completed VAT reclaim forms cannot be supplied for goods sent out by mail order. This is UK law but we are able to supply you with a form for purchases made in our branches. We supply this form free of charge for sales over £400. We have to see your passport and proof of address overseas and when you leave the country you need to get the form stamped at the airport and send the stamped form back to us.

This bit? :p

I'd send an email to their sales team and ask about any VAT retention.

https://www.parkcameras.com/contact-us

TiaMaria57 Mar 5th 2017 3:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12197716)
There are only certain stores who participate in the VAT refund scheme...i.e. M&S, Debs. Make sure the store you buy from is in the scheme. You must have your PP with you and the store fills in the paperwork complete with your PP details. You give this form in at the VAT office at the airport. You will have to ask whereabouts that is. The refund will either be sent on to you my mail or electronically.

You will not get the full amount of VAT refunded. Quite honestly if it were me for £800 I couldn't be bothered with the hassle.

Totally agree. We've been through this VAT refund a couple of times and wouldn't bother again. An outside independent company handles the refunds....A Swiss company based in Geneva the last time we did it.....and they keep something like 50% of the VAT refund plus charge a fee so by the time you finish you get pennies back. Not worth the hassle and deffinately a rip off!

Oink Mar 5th 2017 4:14 pm

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I just ask the shop to give me 20% off to cover the VAT. If they don't, they can naff off.

Stinkypup Mar 5th 2017 4:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 12197915)
I just ask the shop to give me 20% off to cover the VAT. If they don't, they can naff off.

Should I call them cads if they start getting violent?

Jerseygirl Mar 5th 2017 11:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12197896)
Can I reclaim the VAT?
We do operate the VAT reclaim scheme. However, completed VAT reclaim forms cannot be supplied for goods sent out by mail order. This is UK law but we are able to supply you with a form for purchases made in our branches. We supply this form free of charge for sales over £400. We have to see your passport and proof of address overseas and when you leave the country you need to get the form stamped at the airport and send the stamped form back to us.

This bit? :p

I'd send an email to their sales team and ask about any VAT retention.

https://www.parkcameras.com/contact-us


I've can't recall sending the forms back to the store. Maybe that's because I usually caught an early flight from Manchester Airport and the VAT office was closed most times. There was a box on the door to leave the forms in.

Stinky...the VAT office is located after you clear security.

bats Mar 6th 2017 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12197827)
:eek: Matron!

I have become an extremely law abiding pup when travelling- any hint of misdemeanours potentially jeopardizes our Nexus status- Snoop would actually kill:( me

Understandably.

Doesn't anyone sell this thing at Duty Free? Is it possible, legal even, to contact one of the duty free stores and order it in?

Stinkypup Mar 6th 2017 8:09 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12198654)
Understandably.

Doesn't anyone sell this thing at Duty Free? Is it possible, legal even, to contact one of the duty free stores and order it in?

It is a bit niche - It was hard enough trying to track it down in Canada. I nearly had to order it from New York but a phone call to a camera store in Calgary thankfully came up trumps-despite the website saying that there was a 7-14 business day backlog, a phone call later, they had one in stock and are dispatching it to me hopefully later on today.-I will feedback with regard to arrival times, especially in relation to the online shopping thread. Happy pup!:thumbup:

bats Mar 6th 2017 10:59 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12198667)
It is a bit niche - It was hard enough trying to track it down in Canada. I nearly had to order it from New York but a phone call to a camera store in Calgary thankfully came up trumps-despite the website saying that there was a 7-14 business day backlog, a phone call later, they had one in stock and are dispatching it to me hopefully later on today.-I will feedback with regard to arrival times, especially in relation to the online shopping thread. Happy pup!:thumbup:

Will you roll over and wiggle with happiness?

Tootlepootle Mar 6th 2017 11:26 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12198745)
Will you roll over and wiggle with happiness?

Thats an image i didn't need!

BristolUK Mar 6th 2017 11:29 am

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Originally Posted by Tootlepootle (Post 12198761)
Thats an image i didn't need!

I didn't need an exploding nose either but you still caused one. :lol:

Stinkypup Mar 6th 2017 11:38 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12198745)
Will you roll over and wiggle with happiness?

Yep - If it gets here before we head off :thumbup: (It was despatched at lunchtime)


Originally Posted by Tootlepootle (Post 12198761)
Thats an image i didn't need!

:mad:


Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12198765)
I didn't need an exploding nose either but you still caused one. :lol:

Good! :hehe:

Tootlepootle Mar 6th 2017 11:45 am

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Love you really!!!


Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12198771)
Yep - If it gets here before we head off :thumbup: (It was despatched at lunchtime)



:mad:



Good! :hehe:


bats Mar 6th 2017 12:16 pm

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I hope there's a video.

Stinkypup Mar 6th 2017 12:43 pm

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1 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12198786)
I hope there's a video.

Only if the damn thing turns up to set the camera on .. How about Stinky looking vaguely interested but mainly about cheese?

bats Mar 7th 2017 12:07 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12198793)
Only if the damn thing turns up to set the camera on .. How about Stinky looking vaguely interested but mainly about cheese?

How can an interest in cheese be only vague? He's plotting something.

Alan2005 Mar 8th 2017 7:57 am

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Can't you just throw the packaging away, use it a couple of times and then act like you took it with you?

Jerseygirl Mar 8th 2017 8:00 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 12200290)
Can't you just throw the packaging away, use it a couple of times and then act like you took it with you?

I always wonder about that...as hubby loves his cameras. Always takes 3 or more on holiday. We also have at least one iPad each...not to mention jewellery, watches and my handbags. :o. We have never been questioned as to when or where they have been purchased. On the other hand I don't think we have ever bought expensive items whilst overseas.

Stinkypup Mar 8th 2017 9:06 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 12200290)
Can't you just throw the packaging away, use it a couple of times and then act like you took it with you?

Having gone through the effort of getting Nexus cards, I do not want to risk losing them by doing something which is " against the rules " however seemingly trivial

Oink Mar 8th 2017 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 12200290)
Can't you just throw the packaging away, use it a couple of times and then act like you took it with you?

:goodpost:

Jerseygirl Mar 8th 2017 9:16 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12200343)
Having gone through the effort of getting Nexus cards, I do not want to risk losing them by doing something which is " against the rules " however seemingly trivial

Agreed.

Stinkypup Mar 8th 2017 2:42 pm

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1 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12199111)
How can an interest in cheese be only vague? He's plotting something.

Sadly he isn't that intelligent


Originally Posted by bats (Post 12198786)
I hope there's a video.


It has arrived! 48hrs exactly :thumbup:
I couldn't upload a video so will have to be a blurred single frame from the video - tap on the image once displayed full size


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