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My wife found it hard to believe we had them in the kitchen. I still point them out whenever there's a Brit movie or something on the TV.

"Look...see the washing machine?"

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Yes sir. I'll do eggsactly that.

I don't have an opinion on the issue, that's the point. It's like arguing whether driving on the left or right is better.

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We aren't debating something subjective like which colour people prefer, it's a tangible easily measurable thing. Many people in this thread (like me) have experienced a larger number of ruined clothes with top loaders. Many people have experienced no difference (like you). Nobody (as far as I can see) has experienced more ruined clothes in front loaders.

The sample size here is small, but I suspect that the propensity for clothes to be ruined is statistically significant - even if the strength (statistically speaking) of this significance doesn't meet rigorous scientific standards.

You can be open minded and dismiss this as choosing the side of an egg if you like, but the clothes ruined by two different brands of top loader since living in this country are real enough.

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I'm afraid that's all a bit aneggdotal.

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All individual data points are anecdotal. You are just putting more weight on your own anecdotal data point - which is fair enough, we all suffer from experiential bias. And yes, I do appreciate the irony.

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Not at all, I eggsplicitally said that I don't have a point of view. It was you who raised the topic of objectivity, which you still have to eggsplain.

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It took about 12 years, but eventually the laundry magic extended to include the ironing, .... and a few months later verbal hints even saw the "laundry ghost" introduce the innovation of starched collars and cuffs on my office shirts. :thumbup:

BTW Mrs P hates front loaders with a vengeance. We bought a rather nice looking set of Maytag front loader laundry appliances 11 years ago but the washer was designed to not drain all the water out of the drum. :confused: The inevitable consequence is that the washer has a natural tendency to smell musty, and we have to (i) run sanitizing detergent through it every few weeks, and (ii) leave the door open at all times it is not in use.

Mrs P has threatened to buy a too loader next time, though I believe that European washers (Bosch, Ekectrolux, etc. and more recent American machines, don't have the same problem, and even Maytag abandoned it's "perpetual reservoir" design within a couple of years of the one we bought. I will do anything and everything I can to keep Mrs P away from the top loaders, even if it means shelling out for a Bosch, F&P, or even a Miele.

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For those with a leaky washing machine upstairs or laundry flood paranoia, it is possible to buy a "drip tray" specially designed for washing machines (similar to ones installed under water heaters, but square), which can even be plumbed to a convenient drain ( if there is one).

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I see. Back peddling now are we?

Your initial use of the swiftian egg metaphor implies that a) your opinion is that there is no difference to the point that even considering that there might be is stupid or b) you don't understand the swiftian egg metaphor as much as you think.

Either way - you are left with egg on your face.

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you guys are really brainy.

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But (a) is it eggsactly. They both wash clothes. What's the fuss about?

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I think its called three-card Monte. ;)

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Not the first adjective that came to my mind.

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Too many syllables?

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Fuss? iaintevenmad.jpg

From your comments it seems that your null hypothesis is that front / top loaders have the same probability of ruining clothes. I find it quite fascinating that one one hand you say you have an open mind and on the other you say that anyone whose experience doesn't match yours should be discarded as irrelevant fussing. Maybe this is why sometimes science has a bad rep.

And keep up with the Noel Cowardian wit. I'm sure everyone now has aching sides.