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bats May 24th 2013 2:14 pm

Re: Important Question.
 
Surely not every front loader is better than the good top loaders? Given the price difference I would find it hard to justify buying a front loader.

I like the short times of the wash, that they wash oil and soot from husband's work clothes. I don't find holes in the fabric.

My biggest beef with laundry here is that the detergents rip the colour from the clothes.

Alan2005 May 24th 2013 2:14 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10723672)
And yet when so many people holding similar experiences on other issues...let's say something like "life in Canada" is used to reinforce a particular view, it's dismissed as just an attempt at justifying their decision to move to Canada.

Just saying..... ;)

What other issues?

Novocastrian May 24th 2013 2:15 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10723642)
Are you saying that top loaders don't ruin clothes more than front loaders? It looks like you are, can you cite any evidence (other than your own opinion) for this?

Anecdotal it might be, but the amount of clothes ruined in the wash while I was using a top loader was far higher than when using a front loader. T-shirts stretched, holes put in things etc. The fact that so many people have this experience indicates to me that there is something to it.

I can also only offer anecdotal evidence, but I do put my own washing in the machine(s), top loader in Canada, front loader in France. I may have a very low standard as to what constitutes ruined clothes, or maybe I've been in Canada/NoAm long enough not to care. But no difference, in fact, no ruined clothes at all. Just clean ones from both.

SWMBO on the other hand is most fastidious about such matters and has never commented on the difference (if any).

Which end of the egg do you open?

BristolUK May 24th 2013 2:23 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10723680)
What other issues?

The one I mentioned.

I'm sure I don't really need to spell it out do I?

Alan2005 May 24th 2013 2:40 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10723688)
The one I mentioned.

I'm sure I don't really need to spell it out do I?

Yes. I do. Show me this "life in Canada" thing?

And while you are at it, perhaps you can explain to me why you think that something that is objectively measurable is the same as something that is subjective opinion.

Novocastrian May 24th 2013 2:44 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10723702)

And while you are at it, perhaps you can explain to me why you think that something that is objectively measurable is the same as something that is subjective opinion.

Can you find a link to the objective measurability of the higher incidence of ruined clothes in top vs front opening eggs, err washers?

I have an open mind on this as AlmostC would say.

BristolUK May 24th 2013 3:03 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10723702)
Yes. I do. Show me this "life in Canada" thing?

And while you are at it, perhaps you can explain to me why you think that something that is objectively measurable is the same as something that is subjective opinion.

I was going to answer but the fact you are trying to make one appear different to the other tells me you know exactly what I'm on about otherwise you wouldn't try to identify it as different.

Nice try.

Alan2005 May 24th 2013 3:05 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10723715)
I was going to answer but the fact you are trying to make one appear different to the other tells me you know exactly what I'm on about otherwise you wouldn't try to identify it as different.

Nice try.

No I really don't know what you are talking about. It seems you are confusing things, but I'm waiting for you to find an example of this "life in canada" being dismissed for reasons.

BristolUK May 24th 2013 3:15 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10723719)
No I really don't know what you are talking about.

And yet you can tell me I'm wrong about it.

Ah well....

Alan2005 May 24th 2013 3:16 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10723704)
Can you find a link to the objective measurability of the higher incidence of ruined clothes in top vs front opening eggs, err washers?

I have an open mind on this as AlmostC would say.

You keep banging on about these eggs. It's a bit patronizing and is simply an attempt to dismiss any opinon other than your own. Please stop it.

Alan2005 May 24th 2013 3:17 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10723729)
And yet you can tell me I'm wrong about it.

Ah well....

No, I wasn't. I'm waiting for your examples. You mentioned "life in canada" - I really don't even know what that means - but it sounds like you are talking about peoples subjective views on the matter. The fact you won't explain it means that you probably can't.

mandymoochops May 24th 2013 3:32 pm

Re: Important Question.
 
on a slight tangent, it tickles me how north americans think the British are weird for having their washer dryers in the kitchen.

When hid asked why we did that I just said we were poor and couldn't afford the luxury of a room specifically for laundry ;)

ExKiwilass May 24th 2013 4:10 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by thistlehollyberry (Post 10723676)
One downside to front loaders is that you need to leave the door open between washes. I didn't and ended up with mold all over the rubber seal. I think this could be a child safety issue.

not mine! No rubber ring. Asko, I tells ya. Asko.

Plus it's a swedish brand and Swedes are hot.

stuabroad May 24th 2013 4:23 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 10723741)
on a slight tangent, it tickles me how north americans think the British are weird for having their washer dryers in the kitchen.

When hid asked why we did that I just said we were poor and couldn't afford the luxury of a room specifically for laundry ;)

haha you're right! I forgot about that, been in canada too long i'm losing my marbles. I'm glad we all vented about our washing machines though. :thumbup:

thistlehollyberry May 24th 2013 5:47 pm

Re: Important Question.
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 10723753)
not mine! No rubber ring. Asko, I tells ya. Asko.

Plus it's a swedish brand and Swedes are hot.

Mine is a Miele (German) - not cheap - but a complete 10 year warranty. They replaced the moldy rubber seal, no charge. I pointed out that the manual did not mention keeping the door open. One needs to run a sanitize cycle every 2 months or so using a special tablet. Very good for water conservation - as I said only downside is keeping the door open which is not a problem for me with it being in the basement but definitely an issue if it was in a kitchen. I previously had a top loader for 17 years with no complaints - never needed service in all that time!


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