Surely not every front loader is better than the good top loaders? Given the price difference I would find it hard to justify buying a front loader.

I like the short times of the wash, that they wash oil and soot from husband's work clothes. I don't find holes in the fabric.

My biggest beef with laundry here is that the detergents rip the colour from the clothes.

What other issues?

I can also only offer anecdotal evidence, but I do put my own washing in the machine(s), top loader in Canada, front loader in France. I may have a very low standard as to what constitutes ruined clothes, or maybe I've been in Canada/NoAm long enough not to care. But no difference, in fact, no ruined clothes at all. Just clean ones from both.

SWMBO on the other hand is most fastidious about such matters and has never commented on the difference (if any).

Which end of the egg do you open?

The one I mentioned.

I'm sure I don't really need to spell it out do I?

Yes. I do. Show me this "life in Canada" thing?

And while you are at it, perhaps you can explain to me why you think that something that is objectively measurable is the same as something that is subjective opinion.

Can you find a link to the objective measurability of the higher incidence of ruined clothes in top vs front opening eggs, err washers?

I have an open mind on this as AlmostC would say.

I was going to answer but the fact you are trying to make one appear different to the other tells me you know exactly what I'm on about otherwise you wouldn't try to identify it as different.

Nice try.

No I really don't know what you are talking about. It seems you are confusing things, but I'm waiting for you to find an example of this "life in canada" being dismissed for reasons.

And yet you can tell me I'm wrong about it.

Ah well....

You keep banging on about these eggs. It's a bit patronizing and is simply an attempt to dismiss any opinon other than your own. Please stop it.

No, I wasn't. I'm waiting for your examples. You mentioned "life in canada" - I really don't even know what that means - but it sounds like you are talking about peoples subjective views on the matter. The fact you won't explain it means that you probably can't.

on a slight tangent, it tickles me how north americans think the British are weird for having their washer dryers in the kitchen.

When hid asked why we did that I just said we were poor and couldn't afford the luxury of a room specifically for laundry

not mine! No rubber ring. Asko, I tells ya. Asko.

Plus it's a swedish brand and Swedes are hot.

haha you're right! I forgot about that, been in canada too long i'm losing my marbles. I'm glad we all vented about our washing machines though.

Mine is a Miele (German) - not cheap - but a complete 10 year warranty. They replaced the moldy rubber seal, no charge. I pointed out that the manual did not mention keeping the door open. One needs to run a sanitize cycle every 2 months or so using a special tablet. Very good for water conservation - as I said only downside is keeping the door open which is not a problem for me with it being in the basement but definitely an issue if it was in a kitchen. I previously had a top loader for 17 years with no complaints - never needed service in all that time!