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Hear hear!! my sentiments exactly.....its exactly the same as Quebec wanting to separate from Canada. Why?

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As a non Scottish person I really don't give a toss if they separate or not. I have read several articles on their plans and they still can't answer basic questions on what will happen if they vote YES to separate.
1. Will they be issued with a Scottish passport?
2. Currency will it now be the Scottish pound?
3. How about the border?
4. How about their Armed Forces and a whole host of other Govt programmes such as Income Tax, Benefits, Car licensing & registration, Postal services and a whole bunch of others.

Im not against them having their vote but put it out there in plain language what a Yes vote actually means.

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That's never happened before , so why should this be any different. The Good Friday agreement referendum was an excellent example of this. Voters were completely missold on what a "yes" or "no" vote actually meant. In fact the version of the agreement that was released to the general public was missing a fair few pages to what was actually signed.

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Great post Iain, this really tells it like it is, we are all British....right from the time the two crowns merged and James VI of Scotand became James I of Great Britain in 1603.

Modern Britain today is what it is, and has achieved what it has through being the UNITED Kingdom, to split this union now, after all this time, doesnt make economical or common sense, not just for Scotland but for the whole of the UK, however i fear Scotland would suffer more.

I call myself British first, English second, I just think Britain is all the stronger on the world stage for being a united country, and after all.....we all have the same culture really England Scotland Wales and even Northern Ireland, so i dont understand the need to be "independant" its a very high price to pay.

I would actually go further the other way and say that in the world cup, Great Britain should be entered as one British team like in the Olympics. I still think you could have "home nation friendlys" but on the world stage it should be Great Britain.

But then we all live in Canada now...so were all pretty detached from the whole thing, i just think i would be a trerrible shame if they broke up such a successful union.

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This is true, but naturally I meant that the United Kingdom would not just continue by default on Scottish independence. I suppose Scotland could equally vote to call itself the United Kingdom of Dalriada and Fife or something. That wouldn't mean that it's still the same United Kingdom as before, just like a United Kingdom in your proposal would not be a continuation of the previous UK.

I'm not sure about that. I suppose it's a question of legal interpretation, but as I read it, Great Britain was created in 1707, consisting of Scotland on the one part and England & Wales on the other. Ireland, and later amended to Northern Ireland, is merely an addition to the United Kingdom of Great Britain. I don't think Northern Ireland has even been a Kingdom, therefore the title seems to me to be "The United Kingdom of Great Britain" and Northern Ireland.

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Confuses the crap out of Mericans and some Canucks when trying to explain what the UK or Great Britain is though :lol:
The Kingdom of Great Britain resulted from the union of the kingdoms of England (comprising modern-day England and Wales) and Scotland in 1707. Subsequently, in 1801, the Kingdom of Great Britain united with the neighbouring Kingdom of Ireland forming the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. When five-sixths of Ireland seceded the United Kingdom in 1922, the state was renamed the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

So where are you from?
Im from the UK.
The UK what is that?
Well its basically 3 countries and 6 counties of another country (Ireland) all rolled into one.
So whats Great Britain?
Pretty much the same.
So you are British then?
Well actually Im English but you can call me British if you want.

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No idea what these Youtube links are about, can you please also post in your own words?

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apologies , mine was a funny (IMO) video explaining the nuances between GB, UK , England etc.

as to the others I don't know.

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If anyone really....I mean REALLY cared about the place, they would still be living there

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Yup.

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Long-winded appeals to the emotional "this is my country and it should be independent just because" brigade, I suspect. I watched the first thirty seconds of the first one - images of oil platforms, disenfranchised youths in urban wastelands, Thatcher looking smug; commentary on Gaddafi's Libyan coup and the Yom Kippur war and how Scottish oil saved the world. Very dispassionate and carefully argued, I'm sure. Not.