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magnumpi Jan 13th 2017 2:05 pm

Hydro Rant
 
This lady gave our photo bombing, bare chested, gorgeous prime minister a real life message

Justin Trudeau confronted by emotional Ontario woman upset over cost of hydro bill | Globalnews.ca

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 13th 2017 2:23 pm

Re: Hydro Rant
 
Probably little he can do since its a provincial issue. Granted he could exempt electricity from any carbon tax, but seems Ontario has dropped the ball when it comes to electricity.

Can the issue in Ontario be fixed somehow? Not entirely sure why you pay so much for electricity back there, but these stories about electricity makes it easy to eliminate Ontario as a place to live.

I wonder how much our $100 bill in BC last month would cost in Ontario.

dave_j Jan 13th 2017 2:30 pm

Re: Hydro Rant
 
This is a typical example of incompetent political decision making that results in a farce and condemns the ordinary citizen into poverty while they holiday in the Bahamas.

An interesting summary of why prices are high and how this has come to pass can be found at Why hydro bills are so high in Ontario - Toronto - CBC News

not2old Jan 13th 2017 11:03 pm

Re: Hydro Rant
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12151499)
I wonder how much our $100 bill in BC last month would cost in Ontario.

Impossible to say because we have 'time of day use' charges, for example, a different rate charge at a different periods of day (three in all), they change at different rates during different periods in the summer & winter.

The lowest rate is night time, weekends & holidays + additional charges for delievery, regulatory, other charges as applicable + the GST on top of it all at 13%

So a typical 500kw/mth might cost close to $120 depending on how many folks are in the house, do they work or stay at home, the periods when folks use their electricity. If was all at peak, then the bill would be higher, or lower if used mid & off peak

http://www.torontohydro.com/sites/el...resirates.aspx

For 2016 our final yearly Electricity bill including the GST for two stay at home seniors was $1905.44 or $158.79/mth average across 12 months

We have an electric stove, washer & dryer + use AC in the humid summer months.

I'm told that for the 2 storey ~2500sq'ft house that we live in that our Electricity bill is not so bad, to which I say 'you have to be joking'

My wife doesn't care about 'time of day' use & will use the washer & dryer (for just a few items) as well as the stove/oven part whenever (usually peak). Now if we did the major uses in mid peak or off peak I figured the bill would be less by about $15/mth average



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pdarwin Jan 13th 2017 11:54 pm

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Originally Posted by not2old (Post 12151656)

For 2016 our final yearly Electricity bill including the GST for two stay at home seniors was $1905.44 or $158.79/mth average across 12 months

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Interesting.
Our Ottawa 3-bed semi, 2-adults (1 stay at home) cost us total $1400 (inc tax) for 2016 hydro, for comparison. That's $117 pm average.

not2old Jan 14th 2017 12:03 am

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Originally Posted by pdarwin (Post 12151694)
Interesting.

Our Ottawa 3-bed semi, 2-adults (1 stay at home) cost us total $1400 (inc tax) for 2016 hydro, for comparison. That's $117 pm average.

So I'm likely right that our electricty bill is too high for a 2500sq'ft detached house, I would like to see it around $130/mth :nod:

I'm getting onto my wife to tell here 'stop using the appliances 'on peak' or as frequently as she does & to stop drinking so much tea (electric kettle is on contantly)

In the summer we keep the furnace fan running constantly to circulate the air even when the AC unit is not running. Summer months has the highest bills.

pdarwin Jan 14th 2017 12:10 am

Re: Hydro Rant
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 12151700)
So I'm likely right that our electricty bill is too high for a 2500sq'ft detached house, I would like to see it around $130/mth :nod:

I'm getting onto my wife to tell here 'stop using the appliances 'on peak' or as frequently as she does & to stop drinking so much tea (electric kettle is on contantly)

In the summer we keep the furnace fan running constantly to circulate the air even when the AC unit is not running. Summer months has the highest bills.

We are aware of the cheap time periods, but in summer we use a ton of AC. Other than washer / dryer, we don't use so much electricity otherwise though. Water / heating is gas.

bats Jan 14th 2017 4:36 am

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Our last bill was $215. We neither heat nor cook with electricity.

Former Lancastrian Jan 14th 2017 4:47 am

Re: Hydro Rant
 
Words don't pay bills though.

From another article on high hydro rates from the CBC website

Keenan, who operates Sunhall Equestrian Centre, posted a letter to Wynne on her Facebook page on January 5. In it, she candidly wrote of her frustrations with taxes, tolls, government fees and hydro prices. Within a week, the letter gained tens of thousands of shares.
In response to the Facebook post, the Premier called Keenan for a personal conversation Friday evening.
"It was a very good, cordial conversation," said Keenan.
Keenan was pleased that Kathleen Wynne took responsibility for some of the problems listed in the letter, such as high hydro rates.

Viral letter to Kathleen Wynne over hydro gets a personal response - Windsor - CBC News

magnumpi Jan 14th 2017 6:31 am

Re: Hydro Rant
 
Imagine if criminals had the same leeway as the Gov get!

Well yes I did murder my neighbour and I take full responsibility for it. Now let's just move on and forget about my little mistake and stop duelling on it

BristolUK Jan 14th 2017 6:34 am

Re: Hydro Rant
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12151931)
...stop duelling on it

Pistols at dawn? ;)

magnumpi Jan 14th 2017 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12151932)
Pistols at dawn? ;)

Smell checker told me to put that ;)

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 14th 2017 7:13 am

Re: Hydro Rant
 
That's true. We don't have time of use billing. We have a conservation rate where if you go over approx 675 kWh in a month or 1,350 in a month billing cycle. Our billing cycle is monthly though.

500 kWh with 5% rate rider, basic minimum charge, & GST (looks like hydro is PST exempt.) would be approx $51.75 per month, which is about what we average most of the year per month or slightly less. The cold weather has caused us to go into tier 2 pricing which added another $30 on top of the $60 at regular rates.






Originally Posted by not2old (Post 12151656)
Impossible to say because we have 'time of day use' charges, for example, a different rate charge at a different periods of day (three in all), they change at different rates during different periods in the summer & winter.

The lowest rate is night time, weekends & holidays + additional charges for delievery, regulatory, other charges as applicable + the GST on top of it all at 13%

So a typical 500kw/mth might cost close to $120 depending on how many folks are in the house, do they work or stay at home, the periods when folks use their electricity. If was all at peak, then the bill would be higher, or lower if used mid & off peak

http://www.torontohydro.com/sites/el...resirates.aspx

For 2016 our final yearly Electricity bill including the GST for two stay at home seniors was $1905.44 or $158.79/mth average across 12 months

We have an electric stove, washer & dryer + use AC in the humid summer months.

I'm told that for the 2 storey ~2500sq'ft house that we live in that our Electricity bill is not so bad, to which I say 'you have to be joking'

My wife doesn't care about 'time of day' use & will use the washer & dryer (for just a few items) as well as the stove/oven part whenever (usually peak). Now if we did the major uses in mid peak or off peak I figured the bill would be less by about $15/mth average



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pinzo Jan 14th 2017 1:24 pm

Re: Hydro Rant
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 12151700)
So I'm likely right that our electricty bill is too high for a 2500sq'ft detached house, I would like to see it around $130/mth :nod:

I'm getting onto my wife to tell here 'stop using the appliances 'on peak' or as frequently as she does & to stop drinking so much tea (electric kettle is on contantly)

In the summer we keep the furnace fan running constantly to circulate the air even when the AC unit is not running. Summer months has the highest bills.


We are in GTA, family of 4 (two children, 2 year old and 6 month old) and our hydro bill for 2016 is exactly the same as you, almost to the penny!
I have been home 6 months of that year, and the other 6 months while we are at work we are forced to use hydro at the peak times.
But I'm very conscious of bills and ONLY do laundry during the lowest peak times and keep the AC on only when it's stinking hot and even then we don't cool the house that much.
I think you could definitely lower your cost if you tried.

dbd33 Jan 14th 2017 1:42 pm

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Originally Posted by pinzo (Post 12152116)
I think you could definitely lower your cost if you tried.

Of course, turn the air conditioning off and the problem is resolved.


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