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dbd33 Mar 25th 2014 2:20 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11189977)
But back on thread as Oakvillian points out above dependents kill wealth.

Isn't seeing one's children grow and flourish enough wealth for anyone?























</orlyish claptrap mode>

Shard Mar 25th 2014 2:22 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 11189918)
Quite the opposite, I think. The more children one has, the more one needs to earn to consider oneself richer than a given percentage of one's peers. A singleton earning 40k would be in the 90th percentile of earnings; a sole-breadwinner for a couple with two children, on the same salary, would be only in about the 45th percentile of earnings for 2-child families.

Yes of course. I should have added the irony smiley to the last comment. :)

But as was noted in a thread yonks ago, the production of children does tend incentivise more work and (in theory) asset accumulation!

dbd33 Mar 25th 2014 2:24 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11189990)
But as was noted in a thread yonks ago, the production of children does tend incentivise more work and (in theory) asset accumulation!

More work, yes. More income, yes. Asset accumulation, not so much.

Shard Mar 25th 2014 2:30 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11189992)
More work, yes. More income, yes. Asset accumulation, not so much.

Many will seek to maximise their property (whether size or area) for the benefit of the kids. It becomes less a priority for singletons and couple. Of course property is only one type if asset, but for most, it's the main one.

Souvy Mar 25th 2014 2:36 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 
I find that table a bit bemusing.

We are at the top of that table. Where does all the sodding money go?

orly Mar 25th 2014 2:37 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11189986)
</orlyish claptrap mode>

I'm the product of a Waldorf education ;)

Shard Mar 25th 2014 2:44 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11190012)
I find that table a bit bemusing.

We are at the top of that table. Where does all the sodding money go?

Well a good chunk goes to the government.

JamesM Mar 25th 2014 2:47 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11190027)
Well a good chunk goes to the government.

Then there is the bartender......

orly Mar 25th 2014 2:48 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 
There is a difference between "rich" and being in the "top (richest) decile"

If my wife and I were earning the equivalent of 88k GBP (guessing that's in the $140k range?) between us we'd likely feel pretty well off.

Souvy Mar 25th 2014 2:50 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11190031)
Then there is the bartender......

If you have one. I can't remember the last time I went to a bar.

Jingsamichty Mar 25th 2014 2:54 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11190003)
Many will seek to maximise their property (whether size or area) for the benefit of the kids. It becomes less a priority for singletons and couple. Of course property is only one type if asset, but for most, it's the main one.

For every pound that I could earn in Britain, I could make 1.85 dollars in Canada, at today's exchange rates. That means I get 85% more money for the same effort. This can be spent on assets such as a bigger house - and they're bigger in Canada to begin with!!

dbd33 Mar 25th 2014 3:10 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11190003)
Many will seek to maximise their property (whether size or area) for the benefit of the kids.

That's baffling. If I spend money on having a bigger house surely I'm taking that money away from the care and maintenance of the children. I accept that there's an argument that having a happy parent is good for children but that would hold whether it's a big house or an exotic holiday that makes me happy.

Souvy Mar 25th 2014 3:39 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11190072)
That's baffling. If I spend money on having a bigger house surely I'm taking that money away from the care and maintenance of the children. I accept that there's an argument that having a happy parent is good for children but that would hold whether it's a big house or an exotic holiday that makes me happy.

Quite. We are hurling money at (my) stepson at the moment in an attempt to, hopefully, secure the purchase of a property for him. Souvette's long-term plan is to convert the place back from a triplex into a duplex, with one unit being the granny apartment.

She does take a rather long view on things. I don't look beyond tomorrow.

lookingtogo Mar 25th 2014 4:01 am

Re: How Rich Are You ?
 

Originally Posted by orly (Post 11189850)
I live in one of the nicest countries there is
I'm relatively healthy
I have a good family and job.

I'd say that's richness.

Indeed. Plus, state of mind is everything IMHO.

I can't think of anyone in my network who don't earn a fair stash, 100 is an average, and some get bonuses of (you don't want to know). If money was everything they'd be happier, and maybe even kinder but I don't think that's the way it works.

Oink Mar 25th 2014 5:34 am

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Where the naff does it all go? :(


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