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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by geedee
(Post 11004698)
Now that the photo is up, does anyone have a plausible explanation of what that ghost-like intrusion is? It seems the picture was taken with a digital camera so developing errors can't be the issue. It's fascinating.....!
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11004732)
How about that the optics of the camera and the recording medium can see air changes, such as water vapour, that the human eye can't?
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11004766)
Are you suggesting that our esteemed moderator is a medium?
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11004783)
No
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 11002864)
The house is/was not old by our standards, a mere 50 years.
I 2) I often encountered 'sparkly' lights - actually, most nights - where the room would be literally filled with sparks of lights that would whiz around the room going off at all angles lasting for up to half an hour; sometimes they would form into a more cohesive ball shape. Weirdly, my sister came to visit from the UK and she slept in that room - when she got up in the morning, she told me how she had the same experience, though I had never mentioned it to her. :eek: Did you ever consider ringing the city to dig up the house's history? When we lived in our previous house, I decided to do some digging on it's past just because I was curious. When I rang the city, the guy was like oh why do you want to know? And I explained I was just interested. And he replied that he regularly gets calls from people who are convinced their homes are haunted and want to find out the history of said homes. So I was like, and do you ever figure out why they are haunted, and he said that sometimes they can. Crazy. And not the response I was expecting. |
Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11004732)
How about that the optics of the camera and the recording medium can see air changes, such as water vapour, that the human eye can't?
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by geedee
(Post 11004924)
I've heard that dust can cause those "orb" effects, but is water vapour recorded by cameras when not visible to humans? Wouldn't that cause greyed out pictures nearly all the time when it's humid? Good suggestion though, especially as the hot tub is there, and the "smoke"is right above it.
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11005401)
When shiown by the bounce of a flash? There could be dust in the air too. I take pictures every day using something that can't be seen and it seems logical to me that there was something natural there not visible to the eye.
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by geedee
(Post 11005776)
Any brainy people on the forum that can say whether this "ghost" could be vapour from the hot tub, invisible to the human eye but visible to the camera?
There is dust in the air which we don't normally see but when a beam of sunlight shines through curtains we can see them. Swirling. I don't know if flash was used in this photo but it reflects off particles and will record them. There would have been convection currents in the air above the hot tub water, this would also explain the swirly effect. |
Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11005786)
That puts my brain in its place.
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11005801)
A highly recommended location. ;)
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Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11005786)
That puts my brain in its place.
:yield: I am interested to know if water vapour which may be invisible to the eye can be detected and recorded with a digital camera... |
Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by geedee
(Post 11005940)
Oops! I didn't mean it like that!
:yield: I am interested to know if water vapour which may be invisible to the eye can be detected and recorded with a digital camera... Prediction: Siouxie's next post on this thread will be "it wasn't". |
Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11005951)
Water vapour in the gas phase, no. A slight mist of condensed water vapour, or other small particles suspended in air, might well scatter light from a flash, therefore becoming visible in a photo, (although we don't know if a flash was used to obtain the subject image).
Prediction: Siouxie's next post on this thread will be "it wasn't". If it helps, the 1st photo is the photo taken just before the original one posted - you can see 'what ever it is' starting to form but it's higher up than in the original photo. In the original photo it appears to have sunk downwards -which defeats the supposition that it is steam/vapour as we all know that vapour+heat generally rises. Nobody was smoking and there was no steam visible from the hot tub. (Facial features removed to protect privacy). FYI, yes, it was a digital camera |
Re: The Haunting thread
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11005961)
Don't forget about the dust too. Ask Lord Rayleigh about his scattering. Think about why UV filters are used on cameras. The way the eye sees. Think about the effect of pollution on the colour of the sky. You might have your answer then.
You know what my job is. I am bound by all sorts of thingies always to tell the truth. Dust particles in the atmosphere don't do Rayleigh scattering (because the wavelength of the light has to be comparable to the size of the scattering particle). Molecules, O2 & N2 mostly, do Lord Rayleigh's scattering. Particles do Mie scattering. Moreover the colour of a polluted sky near the horizon is largely due to NO2 in the polluted air. Just as we don't know whether a flash was used, we aren't certain whether a digital camera was used. Back in the day of film in cameras, a UV filter was handy to prevent overload of the blue end of the film response curve: digital cameras have an inherently different response and using a UV filter is pointless. Except maybe to prevent scratching. |
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