Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11291186)

I agree 100% with wot I just said in the other thread.

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11291186)

I agree 100% with wot I just said in the other thread.

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11291217)

The results won't surprise me because guns aren't easily available in the UK. I would expect knives to be more of a problem. Thankfully.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11291227)

I'll agree with that. I wonder how many people that drive vehicles will accept that the number of school children killed by vehicles is a price worth paying for being able to drive.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11291227)

I'll agree with that. I wonder how many people that drive vehicles will accept that the number of school children killed by vehicles is a price worth paying for being able to drive.

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11291232)

It's not quite the same is it. There is enormous social and economic utility in driving. Guns are just a hobby. At best, just a hobby.

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11290935)

Yeah.

When was the last time someone killed 3 policemen and injured two with a knife?

The loony arguments are back.

I still can't believe IainK tried to bring cars in again.

The reality is most shootings are carried out by individuals who obtained their fire arms through legal means and were not criminals until that point.

If the law had been more restrictive or firearms weren't so readily available they'd have been reduced dramatically.

This forum's Gun lobbyists are yet to tell us why gun ownership is a good or important thing for society.

The criminal argument is rubbish.

The smoking and car argument beaten down to idiocy half a dozen times now.

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11291239)

I think most people would when pressed to actually think about it for more than 5s. Although I would think that most people would also support attempts to reduce the number of road deaths.

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11291240)

That's a relief. Shows you how much more advanced the UK is.

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11291240)

I suspect old age kills more police officers so I think it is you who are wrong.

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11291240)

Resorting to naff arguments because gun ownership is tragic and pointless.

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11291232)

It's not quite the same is it. There is enormous social and economic utility in driving. Guns are just a hobby. At best, just a hobby.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11291245)

As would most people would support attempts to reduce the number of deaths caused by weapons, both in their communities and during war.

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11291252)

It's still a matter of P&L. Just that in car ownerships case, the benefits are so large when compared to the cost in life that it's meaningless to compare it to gun ownership.

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11291256)

This is not something I've noticed whenever legislation on gun ownership is discussed;)

My own personal view is that owning a gun means you're probably a bit of wanker. But, I don't care enough to be bothered about it. It's their country - they can shoot each other as much as they like as long as they don't involve me in their gun-toting nonsense.

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11291256)

My own personal view is that owning a gun means you're probably a bit of wanker.