"Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
#137
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
Your a bit of a smart ass hardly worthy of a reply but for the other folks, my Rationale is that Muslims should not be allowed to have a place of worship close to ground zero no more then if the Germans built their Plish embassy beside Auschwitz, Americans setting up in Hiroshima or the erecting of Cromwells statue in Wexford.
- there's no Muslim nation
- some Muslims are Americans
And, yes, I have a nice arse, thank you for noticing.
#138
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
I started typing a reply to this, but the dumb idiotic republican ideals of the USA piss me off so much. Very condensed version...
At the end of the day, one of the pinnacle ideas behind the USA is religious freedom. It's the First Amendment, that's before guns...freedom of religion.
At the end of the day all other issues of taste ect are mute. Do they have the right. Yes.
If not just how far away can you build a mosque from that site, 1 mile, 10 miles, 100 miles, 1000 miles? Just what mile marker show's respect.
When does it become alright to build a religious building near the WTC, what is the correct distance for Muslims in the USA to express their Allah given American right of religious freedom?
At the end of the day, one of the pinnacle ideas behind the USA is religious freedom. It's the First Amendment, that's before guns...freedom of religion.
At the end of the day all other issues of taste ect are mute. Do they have the right. Yes.
If not just how far away can you build a mosque from that site, 1 mile, 10 miles, 100 miles, 1000 miles? Just what mile marker show's respect.
When does it become alright to build a religious building near the WTC, what is the correct distance for Muslims in the USA to express their Allah given American right of religious freedom?
#139
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
no more then if the Germans built their Plish embassy beside Auschwitz, Americans setting up in Hiroshima
or the erecting of Cromwells statue in Wexford.
#140
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Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
It's the principle and i beg to differ on Muslim Nation, how about Saudi Arabia.
#142
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
"Tit for tat"... no churches in Saudi Arabia, so no saudi funded mosques in New York?
or perhaps "Not in my back yard" best describes it... a traditional british concept I think.
List of muslim nations for you here by the way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rity_countries
or perhaps "Not in my back yard" best describes it... a traditional british concept I think.
List of muslim nations for you here by the way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rity_countries
Last edited by iaink; Aug 27th 2010 at 6:27 am.
#143
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
I'm unable to see how the NIMBY idea applies in this case.
#144
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
List of muslim nations for you here by the way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rity_countries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rity_countries
#145
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
Wow this is still going on. I refer again to post #38 and stand by it.
#147
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
Article one of the constitution of Saudi Arabia is
"The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a sovereign Arab Islamic state with Islam as its religion; God's Book and the Sunnah of His Prophet, God's prayers and peace be upon him, are its constitution, Arabic is its language and Riyadh is its capital"
I'm unable to see how the NIMBY idea applies in this case.
#149
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
And yet somehow there has been nations in conflict on and off, muslim vs christian, for the better part of a thousand years or more, regardless of how you want to label the sides.
The US coalition is not intended to be seen as a Christian force, its non denominational, with people of all faiths present I guess, but as the majority religion in the US is Christianity its easy to see how its seen that way from outside.
I would say you could equally argue that the Taliban and Al-Qa'ida are such a loony fringe of Islam that in general they are no more representative of Islam as the coalition forces are of Christianity.
Last edited by iaink; Aug 27th 2010 at 7:36 am.
#150
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
"Your a bit of a smart ass hardly worthy of a reply but for the other folks, my Rationale is that Muslims should not be allowed to have a place of worship close to ground zero no more then if the Germans built their Plish embassy beside Auschwitz, Americans setting up in Hiroshima or the erecting of Cromwells statue in Wexford."
Muslims are equated to Germans and the Plish.
Yes, but not all Muslims are Saudis.
They might not welcome Donald Trump either but, if he can get funding, he can build his monstrosities, that's just the way of the planning process. A non-mosque isn't likely to run foul of any planning regulations and, since the non-mosque isn't even at the location over which there is such drama, I can see no reason why it shouldn't go about its business unfussed over.