Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
#76
Probably due to London luvvies having to spend most of their money on exorbitant property prices and rents rather than food.
#77
The government doesn't need to feed you information, it's out there if you have the ability and interest to find it, read it, and consider it. One of the sure fire indicators that someone is an uninformed voter is when they are making pleas for more information or saying they are confused.
I'm not stating as an 'uninformed' voter, I did my research. There were plenty that didn't and filling their minds with scaremongering is scandalous to say the least. This is why you have to laugh at the majority of them making it a political football and at the same time being complacent that the 'plebs' would vote the way our elite assumed they would, fools.
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Or it could be that they are just older and old people are generally fatter. Hopefully somebody will do the stats to factor out these other variables given the importance of the issue at hand.
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There is generalizations and then there are statistics
EU referendum: How the results compare to the UK's educated, old and immigrant populations
EU referendum: How the results compare to the UK's educated, old and immigrant populations

I'm not saying that there were not some ignorant or rather, uninformed people that voted to 'leave' - but equally, there would have been some similarly uninformed people that chose 'remain'.
I'll leave you lot to your generalisations.

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It's a funny headline, but these google trend things never mean anything. It's a bit like those "fastest growing sports" you hear about that only 7 people play.
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I think that's not really going to be possible for a great deal of people for a very long time.
The very closeness of the vote. A million difference in a country of so many. London, Scotland and NI voting to stay. There are going to be an awful lot of unhappy people for quite some time. We have no idea today what the long lasting effects of this vote will be and how it is going to change the world of our children and grand children. Our vote today, is going to effect all of the other member states, the trickle down effect will be gigantic.
We voted
democracy ruled
Lots of people got what they wished for, and I wish them happiness.
Let's hope they find it
The very closeness of the vote. A million difference in a country of so many. London, Scotland and NI voting to stay. There are going to be an awful lot of unhappy people for quite some time. We have no idea today what the long lasting effects of this vote will be and how it is going to change the world of our children and grand children. Our vote today, is going to effect all of the other member states, the trickle down effect will be gigantic.
We voted
democracy ruled
Lots of people got what they wished for, and I wish them happiness.
Let's hope they find it
#82
Look, they're going to fudge the whole thing, they have no choice.
Something like 80% of MPs were for "remain" so how exactly you constitute a Govt. that is for Brexit will be a bit of a feat in itself.
And Sinn Féin is pointing out accurately that leaving the EU violates the Good Friday Agreement (because of the money the EU gives to Northern Ireland) and the Scottish are livid and want another referendum.
Given that backdrop, they have virtually zero leverage with the EU and the French have already said that the UK must continue to contribute to the European budget in order to have access to the common market.
So the most likely outcome is the UK becomes an EEA state like Norway or is a de facto EEA state like Switzerland.
Which means freedom of movement remains, budget contributions remain, still have to follow European Directives - but you have no say in them.
Can't see the Scottish settling for anything less than that and the EU will push hard for that, if only to stop other member states from leaving. And the EU isn't going to cough up money for Northern Ireland without the money coming in from the UK.
Personally I'm fine with that because it's always been the UK that cocks up these Directives with all sorts of weird exemptions and clauses.
The only wild card is the financial sector because they'll still want as much integration as possible but they won't like the idea of having no say in Directives. So that will be the compromise, the UK will still have some direct say in the formulation of laws that affect the financial industry.
Whoop-te-do. That's "freedom" from the EU for you. Pretty much exactly the same situation as present, except the Union flag won't fly outside any of the buildings in Brussels and the UK will have no say in what goes on.
Something like 80% of MPs were for "remain" so how exactly you constitute a Govt. that is for Brexit will be a bit of a feat in itself.
And Sinn Féin is pointing out accurately that leaving the EU violates the Good Friday Agreement (because of the money the EU gives to Northern Ireland) and the Scottish are livid and want another referendum.
Given that backdrop, they have virtually zero leverage with the EU and the French have already said that the UK must continue to contribute to the European budget in order to have access to the common market.
So the most likely outcome is the UK becomes an EEA state like Norway or is a de facto EEA state like Switzerland.
Which means freedom of movement remains, budget contributions remain, still have to follow European Directives - but you have no say in them.
Can't see the Scottish settling for anything less than that and the EU will push hard for that, if only to stop other member states from leaving. And the EU isn't going to cough up money for Northern Ireland without the money coming in from the UK.
Personally I'm fine with that because it's always been the UK that cocks up these Directives with all sorts of weird exemptions and clauses.
The only wild card is the financial sector because they'll still want as much integration as possible but they won't like the idea of having no say in Directives. So that will be the compromise, the UK will still have some direct say in the formulation of laws that affect the financial industry.
Whoop-te-do. That's "freedom" from the EU for you. Pretty much exactly the same situation as present, except the Union flag won't fly outside any of the buildings in Brussels and the UK will have no say in what goes on.
#83
My nan told me that her friends are always browbeating her to go to Pizza Express after bingo when she'd rather get a fish supper but now with Brexit she said she feels she don'’t have to eat that 'foreign muck' anymore.
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If oil prices go up a lot in the next few months I might go back to the UK and buy a bigger house.
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.He plays a (very) long game. He is one of the most intelligent & devious people I've ever come across.
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However, the truly insightful can see that him for what he really is: a buffoon pretending to be a clever person pretending to be a buffoon. It's so ingenious that you'd be tempted to add yet another layer, but that would obviously be a bit silly.
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It's a carefully cultivated image. People get to feel insightful when they they "see" through his buffoonery to the clever person underneath.
However, the truly insightful can see that him for what he really is: a buffoon pretending to be a clever person pretending to be a buffoon. It's so ingenious that you'd be tempted to add yet another layer, but that would obviously be a bit silly.
However, the truly insightful can see that him for what he really is: a buffoon pretending to be a clever person pretending to be a buffoon. It's so ingenious that you'd be tempted to add yet another layer, but that would obviously be a bit silly.



