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Old Jun 24th 2016 | 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Talking of expanding - if my facebook is anything to go by, leave voters are considerably fatter than remain voters. I wonder if there is a BMI divide along with a generational one?

Probably due to London luvvies having to spend most of their money on exorbitant property prices and rents rather than food.
 
Old Jun 24th 2016 | 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
The government doesn't need to feed you information, it's out there if you have the ability and interest to find it, read it, and consider it. One of the sure fire indicators that someone is an uninformed voter is when they are making pleas for more information or saying they are confused.
You're right it doesn't have to but it did, misinformation at that. It was using taxpayers money to preach the in doctrine instead of just stating facts for voters to make up their own mind.

I'm not stating as an 'uninformed' voter, I did my research. There were plenty that didn't and filling their minds with scaremongering is scandalous to say the least. This is why you have to laugh at the majority of them making it a political football and at the same time being complacent that the 'plebs' would vote the way our elite assumed they would, fools.
 
Old Jun 24th 2016 | 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by Oink
Probably due to London luvvies having to spend most of their money on exorbitant property prices and rents rather than food.
Or it could be that they are just older and old people are generally fatter. Hopefully somebody will do the stats to factor out these other variables given the importance of the issue at hand.
 
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Originally Posted by Engineer_abroad
Yes, I saw that hours ago. I wondered what percentage of the populace was included in the statistics - and where the originating information came from. Inquiring minds would like to know

I'm not saying that there were not some ignorant or rather, uninformed people that voted to 'leave' - but equally, there would have been some similarly uninformed people that chose 'remain'.

I'll leave you lot to your generalisations.




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It's a funny headline, but these google trend things never mean anything. It's a bit like those "fastest growing sports" you hear about that only 7 people play.
 
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Originally Posted by Siouxie
It's done. Now it's time to get on with it.
I think that's not really going to be possible for a great deal of people for a very long time.

The very closeness of the vote. A million difference in a country of so many. London, Scotland and NI voting to stay. There are going to be an awful lot of unhappy people for quite some time. We have no idea today what the long lasting effects of this vote will be and how it is going to change the world of our children and grand children. Our vote today, is going to effect all of the other member states, the trickle down effect will be gigantic.

We voted democracy ruled Lots of people got what they wished for, and I wish them happiness. Let's hope they find it
 
Old Jun 24th 2016 | 10:41 am
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Look, they're going to fudge the whole thing, they have no choice.

Something like 80% of MPs were for "remain" so how exactly you constitute a Govt. that is for Brexit will be a bit of a feat in itself.

And Sinn Féin is pointing out accurately that leaving the EU violates the Good Friday Agreement (because of the money the EU gives to Northern Ireland) and the Scottish are livid and want another referendum.

Given that backdrop, they have virtually zero leverage with the EU and the French have already said that the UK must continue to contribute to the European budget in order to have access to the common market.

So the most likely outcome is the UK becomes an EEA state like Norway or is a de facto EEA state like Switzerland.

Which means freedom of movement remains, budget contributions remain, still have to follow European Directives - but you have no say in them.

Can't see the Scottish settling for anything less than that and the EU will push hard for that, if only to stop other member states from leaving. And the EU isn't going to cough up money for Northern Ireland without the money coming in from the UK.

Personally I'm fine with that because it's always been the UK that cocks up these Directives with all sorts of weird exemptions and clauses.

The only wild card is the financial sector because they'll still want as much integration as possible but they won't like the idea of having no say in Directives. So that will be the compromise, the UK will still have some direct say in the formulation of laws that affect the financial industry.

Whoop-te-do. That's "freedom" from the EU for you. Pretty much exactly the same situation as present, except the Union flag won't fly outside any of the buildings in Brussels and the UK will have no say in what goes on.
 
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My nan told me that her friends are always browbeating her to go to Pizza Express after bingo when she'd rather get a fish supper but now with Brexit she said she feels she don'’t have to eat that 'foreign muck' anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
My nan told me that her friends are always browbeating her to go to Pizza Express after bingo when she'd rather get a fish supper but now with Brexit she said she feels she don'’t have to eat that 'foreign muck' anymore.
Tell your nan to grab a nice lamb rogan josh in support of the commonwealth
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
When your leaving, your leaving. You don't get to...hang about afterwards making small talk.
Unless you're a professional footballer being substituted and your team is winning with not long left. Then you can take as much time as you like going around your team mates and waving to everyone you know in the crowd.
 
Old Jun 24th 2016 | 11:32 am
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If oil prices go up a lot in the next few months I might go back to the UK and buy a bigger house.
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
I think its a bit rich that the Americans and Canadians are attacking us about this when they have the longest tightly secured border in the world.
This was discussed today on the radio, as in, if the EU is so good why did the US and Canada not do the same, on paper it may make sense for a "United States of Canada and America" but we all know, that won't happen. Bit like what the UK have gone back to really
 
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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
So, per my comment to magnumpy the other day about FB (his friends were all leave, my friends were all remain) my FB feed this morning is full of friends figuring out which EU passports they might qualify for.
I've been fielding queries from family & friends about Irish passports...

Originally Posted by Siouxie
Oh for goodness sake..

[big snip]

Regardless, the deed is done.

Time to move on and move forwards
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After my initial shock, & ongoing chagrin, I think I have to agree .

Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Apparently both Cameron and the fool Boris agree that there's no rush to invoke Article 50. These buffoons don't realise yet that their silly public schoolboy rivalry has real consequences.
Trouble is: Boris is neither a fool nor a buffoon, although he does a good imitation of both.

He plays a (very) long game. He is one of the most intelligent & devious people I've ever come across.
 
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Originally Posted by Shirtback
He plays a (very) long game. He is one of the most intelligent & devious people I've ever come across.
It's a carefully cultivated image. People get to feel insightful when they they "see" through his buffoonery to the clever person underneath.

However, the truly insightful can see that him for what he really is: a buffoon pretending to be a clever person pretending to be a buffoon. It's so ingenious that you'd be tempted to add yet another layer, but that would obviously be a bit silly.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
It's a carefully cultivated image. People get to feel insightful when they they "see" through his buffoonery to the clever person underneath.

However, the truly insightful can see that him for what he really is: a buffoon pretending to be a clever person pretending to be a buffoon. It's so ingenious that you'd be tempted to add yet another layer, but that would obviously be a bit silly.
Perhaps. I hope you're right.
 


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