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hot wasabi peas Jan 24th 2008 3:49 am

gravy... I don't get it...
 
I see so many references to gravy on here.

Obviously my grub must be very different as I eat gravy maybe twice a year, if that. It's always made by someone else.

What are you eating that you put gravy on? What is the appeal of instant gravy?

Beebop Jan 24th 2008 3:55 am

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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5833910)
I see so many references to gravy on here.

Obviously my grub must be very different as I eat gravy maybe twice a year, if that. It's always made by someone else.

What are you eating that you put gravy on? What is the appeal of instant gravy?

Traditional grub.....it's the "meat and two veg" thing.....always with a nice, brown gravy.

I didn't get to see a main meal that didn't involve a piece of meat, some boiled veg and tatties until I'd left home. Not really eaten roasts on a regular basis since.

Madmac Jan 24th 2008 3:55 am

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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5833910)
I see so many references to gravy on here.

Obviously my grub must be very different as I eat gravy maybe twice a year, if that. It's always made by someone else.

What are you eating that you put gravy on? What is the appeal of instant gravy?

As a disguise for the taste of the bland food underneath?

iaink Jan 24th 2008 3:56 am

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What, you dont eat poutine three times a week? Some canadian your are!


Chicken mostly....cos it compensates for an otherwise dried out bird. Instants OK if you are just doing a breast or half chicken and there isnt enough juice (or time) to do it properly. Its really a pale imitation though.

Atlantic Xpat Jan 24th 2008 3:57 am

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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5833910)
IWhat are you eating that you put gravy on? What is the appeal of instant gravy?

Gravy only required on roasts and sausages and mash IMHO. Instant gravy has no appeal to me whatsoever. I make my own with juices from the pan, some stock, red wine, herbs, and bit of flour for thickening*

* A source of some debate in our house. Mrs AX likes gravy that you can cut with a knife. I prefer a darker, liquid 'jus';)

Greenhill Jan 24th 2008 3:57 am

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We eat chip gravy butties, three times a day. This delicacy, likely originating in Newcastle, was designed as the "fast food for the working classes" following the migration of sheep to Scotland.


Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5833910)
What are you eating that you put gravy on? What is the appeal of instant gravy?


Coffeepot Jan 24th 2008 4:02 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 5833958)
Gravy only required on roasts and sausages and mash IMHO. Instant gravy has no appeal to me whatsoever. I make my own with juices from the pan, some stock, red wine, herbs, and bit of flour for thickening*

* A source of some debate in our house. Mrs AX likes gravy that you can cut with a knife. I prefer a darker, liquid 'jus';)

Real gravy like yours is more a sauce than instant muck, OH makes fab gravy same as you do mmmmmmmmmmmmm;)

Tuppence Jan 24th 2008 4:23 am

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It's great on chips, sausage and mash, and you need it really thick for a roast dinner. The instant granules are perfect for throwing into a beef stew (cooked in tinned tomatoes) at the very last minute to add some beefyness and thickness to the sauce :thumbup:

Can't be faffed with making it from scratch or using Bisto powder. Stick the kettle on, granules in jug with Oxo cube (can't get those here either :thumbdown:), water in, Bob's your uncle.

L'il Bear Jan 24th 2008 4:30 am

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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5833910)
What are you eating that you put gravy on?

Roasts, toad-in-the-hole and BREAD to mop it all up. Yum :p My mum sent me some oxo over in a care package for Christmas - Happy days :D

Elaine B. Jan 24th 2008 5:10 am

Re: gravy... I don't get it...
 

Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5833910)
I see so many references to gravy on here.

Obviously my grub must be very different as I eat gravy maybe twice a year, if that. It's always made by someone else.

What are you eating that you put gravy on? What is the appeal of instant gravy?

I don't get it either:confused: Mind you I am a vegetarian. (Oops I said too much I believe that's still illegal in some parts of Canada;))

iaink Jan 24th 2008 5:12 am

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Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 5834264)
I don't get it either:confused: Mind you I am a vegetarian. (Oops I said too much I believe that's still illegal in some parts of Canada;))

Instant Bisto is ideal then...

Corn starch, Caramel, Salt, Wheat starch, Soya flour, Hydrolyzed plant protein,Torula yeast, Carrot and Onion powders.

Aint nothing that used to breathe on that list.....

hot wasabi peas Jan 24th 2008 5:20 am

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Originally Posted by Madmac (Post 5833945)
As a disguise for the taste of the bland food underneath?

But there are other sauces, some even requiring less effort than instant gravy.

I think there must be crystal meth in it. Seriously, read some of the gravy threads with that thought in mind... :ohmy:

:lol:

Elaine B. Jan 24th 2008 5:21 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 5834272)
Instant Bisto is ideal then...

Corn starch, Caramel, Salt, Wheat starch, Soya flour, Hydrolyzed plant protein,Torula yeast, Carrot and Onion powders.

Aint nothing that used to breathe on that list.....

sound lovely!:eek:

hot wasabi peas Jan 24th 2008 5:22 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 5833949)
What, you dont eat poutine three times a week? Some canadian your are!

I'm still digesting the poutine that I ate ten years ago!

hot wasabi peas Jan 24th 2008 5:29 am

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Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 5834264)
I don't get it either:confused: Mind you I am a vegetarian. (Oops I said too much I believe that's still illegal in some parts of Canada;))


I think that's definitely part of it. Up until recently I had been a vegetarian for 20 some odd years. Still, my friends and family (in Canada) who eat meat, don't eat much gravy at all either. I'll ask them why.

daft batty Jan 24th 2008 5:34 am

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A British woman is judged by the quality of her gravy.
As this is such an important part of British life, and since gravy making abilities have replaced dowries in the British marriage market, then many women cheat. A man also has to find out if his intended is an Oxo woman or Bisto? This is important, more important than marrying out.

A man knows he is loved and cherished if a huge plate of steaming dark brown gloop is placed on the table as soon as he comes home from work. Of course, his slippers will also be warming by the fireside, a glass of single malt on the side table, etc etc.

Girl food doesnt need gravy, boy stuff, sausages, roast dinners, chips, meat pies etc do.

This thread will shortly be followed by one on yorkshire puddings, you mark my words! :rofl:

boxerdog03 Jan 24th 2008 5:35 am

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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5834330)
I think that's definitely part of it. Up until recently I had been a vegetarian for 20 some odd years. Still, my friends and family (in Canada) who eat meat, don't eat much gravy at all either. I'll ask them why.

I don't really like it, why make your food all soggy:confused:

gryphea Jan 24th 2008 5:38 am

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My OH is veggie and we use gravy to make a mincey type sauce to make cottage pies, both veggie and non veggie. So we use bisto powders as a sort of thickener recipe item not gravy as a seaprte pour on sauce . We use as pour on for sausage (veggie and meat) and mash. Yummie

Coffeepot Jan 24th 2008 5:40 am

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Originally Posted by boxerdog03 (Post 5834355)
I don't really like it, why make your food all soggy:confused:

Gravy and yorkshire puddings, ok who makes there own out there ?

( is that ok daft Batty ) :rofl:

Bill_S Jan 24th 2008 5:42 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 5833958)
Gravy only required on roasts and sausages and mash IMHO. Instant gravy has no appeal to me whatsoever. I make my own with juices from the pan, some stock, red wine, herbs, and bit of flour for thickening*

We have a winner!! :thumbsup:

I've been waiting for someone to say this! I do the same thing. Real, live gravy is great, but I only get around to making it a few times a year. Bisto? blechhhh

hot wasabi peas Jan 24th 2008 5:44 am

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:rofl:

Originally Posted by daft batty (Post 5834350)
A British woman is judged by the quality of her gravy.
As this is such an important part of British life, and since gravy making abilities have replaced dowries in the British marriage market, then many women cheat. A man also has to find out if his intended is an Oxo woman or Bisto? This is important, more important than marrying out.

A man knows he is loved and cherished if a huge plate of steaming dark brown gloop is placed on the table as soon as he comes home from work. Of course, his slippers will also be warming by the fireside, a glass of single malt on the side table, etc etc.

Girl food doesnt need gravy, boy stuff, sausages, roast dinners, chips, meat pies etc do.

This thread will shortly be followed by one on yorkshire puddings, you mark my words! :rofl:


Very anthropological! ;) And is a possible explanation as to why I am not married! :rofl:

hot wasabi peas Jan 24th 2008 5:46 am

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Originally Posted by daft batty (Post 5834350)
This thread will shortly be followed by one on yorkshire puddings, you mark my words! :rofl:


I would dare AX to do this but it's guaranteed to backfire on me.

startwin Jan 24th 2008 5:48 am

Re: gravy... I don't get it...
 

Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 5833910)
I see so many references to gravy on here.

Obviously my grub must be very different as I eat gravy maybe twice a year, if that. It's always made by someone else.

What are you eating that you put gravy on? What is the appeal of instant gravy?

We have gravy only when I do a roast, or with turkey dinner. My O/H hates the instant granules stuff.

bazzz Jan 24th 2008 5:49 am

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Gravy is such an institution in the UK, that they've even erected a tower to it in London. Apparently it's a real treat to be taken up the Oxo Tower.

gryphea Jan 24th 2008 6:08 am

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Of course, living in Yorkshire for 10 years encourages a gravy habit!

Oakvillian Jan 24th 2008 6:13 am

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 5834410)
Gravy is such an institution in the UK, that they've even erected a tower to it in London. Apparently it's a real treat to be taken up the Oxo Tower.

Fnarr, fnarr! I hadn't noticed the double-entendre possibilities there. [I'm so innocent, me...]

My friendly Google elves tell me that this review appeared (briefly) on the London Eating website before being taken down: "Last Friday evening I tried to take my girlfriend up the Oxo Tower but unfortunately we found it was completely full, so despite our best efforts, we just couldn't get in. I even greased the odd palm in the hope of slipping in without too much of a fuss, but I didn't want to push it." Finbarr Saunders couldn't have put it better himself.

To return to the original question, I'm definitely in the only-bother-with-gravy-if-it's-proper-gravy camp: meat juices, flour, stock/veg water, a good slug of wine, seasoning. But then again, I'd have mustard with steak pie or sausages, mayonnaise with chips, etc etc - and if any potential wife fed me pretend gravy, apart from annoying the current Mrs O it'd probably be a good indicator that our tastes in food weren't too compatible (sorry, Batty ;))

Elaine B. Jan 24th 2008 6:18 am

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Originally Posted by daft batty (Post 5834350)
A British woman is judged by the quality of her gravy.
As this is such an important part of British life, and since gravy making abilities have replaced dowries in the British marriage market, then many women cheat. A man also has to find out if his intended is an Oxo woman or Bisto? This is important, more important than marrying out.

A man knows he is loved and cherished if a huge plate of steaming dark brown gloop is placed on the table as soon as he comes home from work. Of course, his slippers will also be warming by the fireside, a glass of single malt on the side table, etc etc.

Girl food doesnt need gravy, boy stuff, sausages, roast dinners, chips, meat pies etc do.

This thread will shortly be followed by one on yorkshire puddings, you mark my words! :rofl:

Now I know I was destined to marry a vegetarian Canadian:rofl:

Biiiiink Jan 24th 2008 6:24 am

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It's a panic thing, you read on this forum that you will miss it so you expect to.

I grabbed armfuls of the stuff 1st visit back to the UK... I think I've used it maybe 3 times since then (2005) :lol:

hot wasabi peas Jan 24th 2008 6:33 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 5834487)
Fnarr, fnarr! I hadn't noticed the double-entendre possibilities there. [I'm so innocent, me...]

My friendly Google elves tell me that this review appeared (briefly) on the London Eating website before being taken down: "Last Friday evening I tried to take my girlfriend up the Oxo Tower but unfortunately we found it was completely full, so despite our best efforts, we just couldn't get in. I even greased the odd palm in the hope of slipping in without too much of a fuss, but I didn't want to push it." Finbarr Saunders couldn't have put it better himself.

To return to the original question

:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::rofl:

I hadn't heard that one before! I'm never eating gravy ever, ever, ever again! Ever!

Beebop Jan 24th 2008 6:57 am

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Plus it's a noted Christmas argument, isn't it?

I was the subject of much glaring at Christmas because I made gravy in a saucepan and didn't use the tattie water....

There is a bit in Bridget Jones that sums it up perfectly.....:thumbsup:

I try to be all "proper" but give my OH some Paxo and a bit of Bisto and he looks like he's in 7th heaven.

Pretty Flowers Jan 24th 2008 7:03 am

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 5834410)
Gravy is such an institution in the UK, that they've even erected a tower to it in London. Apparently it's a real treat to be taken up the Oxo Tower.

Saucy! :p

BristolUK Jan 24th 2008 8:12 am

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Originally Posted by boxerdog03 (Post 5834355)
I don't really like it, why make your food all soggy:confused:

That confuses me.

I make my own gravy - the Canadian wife and kids call it sauce and love it. They call it sauce a la Nicholas to distinguish it from instant stuff.

Why would it make things soggy? It's not like it's on the food a long time. If I had soggy food under my gravy, that would tell me I'd overcooked the veggies.

Elaine B. Jan 24th 2008 8:28 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 5835009)
That confuses me.

Why would it make things soggy? It's not like it's on the food a long time. If I had soggy food under my gravy, that would tell me I'd overcooked the veggies.

Isn't that another great British tradition overcooked veggies:)

gryphea Jan 24th 2008 8:40 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 5834487)
Fnarr, fnarr! I hadn't noticed the double-entendre possibilities there. [I'm so innocent, me...]

My friendly Google elves tell me that this review appeared (briefly) on the London Eating website before being taken down: "Last Friday evening I tried to take my girlfriend up the Oxo Tower but unfortunately we found it was completely full, so despite our best efforts, we just couldn't get in. I even greased the odd palm in the hope of slipping in without too much of a fuss, but I didn't want to push it." Finbarr Saunders couldn't have put it better himself.

To return to the original question, I'm definitely in the only-bother-with-gravy-if-it's-proper-gravy camp: meat juices, flour, stock/veg water, a good slug of wine, seasoning. But then again, I'd have mustard with steak pie or sausages, mayonnaise with chips, etc etc - and if any potential wife fed me pretend gravy, apart from annoying the current Mrs O it'd probably be a good indicator that our tastes in food weren't too compatible (sorry, Batty ;))


My mother clearly failed me and never passed on how to make without powder (which as in the true powder not granules is really just a starch thickner) . Our problem is OH is veggie and therefore we don't have the meat juices........ SO I am in a halfway house, don't want granules, but still want the powder!!!

I wonder why Heston never made one of his programmes dedicated to the 'best' blah blah

Steve_P Jan 24th 2008 8:44 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 5834487)

To return to the original question, I'm definitely in the only-bother-with-gravy-if-it's-proper-gravy camp: meat juices, flour, stock/veg water, a good slug of wine, seasoning. But then again, I'd have mustard with steak pie or sausages, mayonnaise with chips, etc etc - and if any potential wife fed me pretend gravy, apart from annoying the current Mrs O it'd probably be a good indicator that our tastes in food weren't too compatible (sorry, Batty ;))

Is there really any other way to make gravy.

Even if you do use Bisto you must still use the meat juices and the veg water (preferably the potato water) a slug of wine would be nice but not necessary. :)

HP sauce on sausage and mash for me.;)

Speaking of English meals, does anyone else have fried egg and chips? Yolks still runny so you can dip the chips in them.

We mentioned this to a Canadian friend once when she asked what we were having for supper (tea) and she turned her nose up saying she'd never heard of such a meal. Any way she must have thought about it because a couple of weeks later she told us she'd tried it on her family and they loved it. :):)

daft batty Jan 24th 2008 8:46 am

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Originally Posted by gryphea (Post 5835159)
My mother clearly failed me and never passed on how to make without powder (which as in the true powder not granules is really just a starch thickner) . Our problem is OH is veggie and therefore we don't have the meat juices........ SO I am in a halfway house, don't want granules, but still want the powder!!!

I wonder why Heston never made one of his programmes dedicated to the 'best' blah blah

caramelise onions, parsnips, carrots, potatoes, liquidise, thicken with cornflour, add marmite :rofl:, soy sauce, etc, makes ace veggie gravy

BristolUK Jan 24th 2008 8:50 am

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Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 5835182)
Speaking of English meals, does anyone else have fried egg and chips? Yolks still runny so you can dip the chips in them.

Of course.:)
My wife hates what she calls snotty eggs so she has to have them over easy, but she likes egg and chips. Refuses to entertain the idea of a spot of ketchup with the egg though.

I'll do that once in a while. Chip and egg butty?

daft batty Jan 24th 2008 8:53 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 5834487)
Fnarr, fnarr! I hadn't noticed the double-entendre possibilities there. [I'm so innocent, me...]

My friendly Google elves tell me that this review appeared (briefly) on the London Eating website before being taken down: "Last Friday evening I tried to take my girlfriend up the Oxo Tower but unfortunately we found it was completely full, so despite our best efforts, we just couldn't get in. I even greased the odd palm in the hope of slipping in without too much of a fuss, but I didn't want to push it." Finbarr Saunders couldn't have put it better himself.

To return to the original question, I'm definitely in the only-bother-with-gravy-if-it's-proper-gravy camp: meat juices, flour, stock/veg water, a good slug of wine, seasoning. But then again, I'd have mustard with steak pie or sausages, mayonnaise with chips, etc etc - and if any potential wife fed me pretend gravy, apart from annoying the current Mrs O it'd probably be a good indicator that our tastes in food weren't too compatible (sorry, Batty ;))

are you implying I cant cook;):mad::eek::blink:

Oakvillian Jan 24th 2008 8:54 am

Re: gravy... I don't get it...
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 5835182)
Is there really any other way to make gravy.

Even if you do use Bisto you must still use the meat juices and the veg water (preferably the potato water) a slug of wine would be nice but not necessary. :)

HP sauce on sausage and mash for me.;)

Speaking of English meals, does anyone else have fried egg and chips? Yolks still runny so you can dip the chips in them.

We mentioned this to a Canadian friend once when she asked what we were having for supper (tea) and she turned her nose up saying she'd never heard of such a meal. Any way she must have thought about it because a couple of weeks later she told us she'd tried it on her family and they loved it. :):)

Mmmmmmm. We don't do fried egg and chips v often (well, not nearly as often as I'd like) but we have just introduced our son to the delights of a boiled egg (runny yolk) with marmite soldiers. It's always been a traditional Sunday evening "high tea" in my family; OH embraced the tradition before we were married. The boy was a bit reluctant (Blleeeeuuuuggghhh. I don't like dippy eggs) until we pointed out that if he finished it all up he was allowed to turn the eggshell over in the eggcup, draw a face on it in crayon, then bash its head in with his spoon. Now the "naughty smacky egg people" make an appearance every Sunday!

Inse Jan 24th 2008 9:01 am

Re: gravy... I don't get it...
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 5835182)
Is there really any other way to make gravy.

Even if you do use Bisto you must still use the meat juices and the veg water (preferably the potato water) a slug of wine would be nice but not necessary. :)

HP sauce on sausage and mash for me.;)

Speaking of English meals, does anyone else have fried egg and chips? Yolks still runny so you can dip the chips in them.

We mentioned this to a Canadian friend once when she asked what we were having for supper (tea) and she turned her nose up saying she'd never heard of such a meal. Any way she must have thought about it because a couple of weeks later she told us she'd tried it on her family and they loved it. :):)

Egg & chips, one of my favourites. Bangers and mash with fried onions too.


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