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DandNHill Jul 25th 2012 3:56 am
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10192451)
I love these topics and generalised replies.

Do you think these people were polite, trusting, and neighbourly at the time?

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Fiv...028/story.html

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Pol...955/story.html

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Van...697/story.html

I wore a hooded top in the UK, as did my friends on occasion. Does that make me a hoodie?

I'd be surprised if the people posting on this thread chose to move from a crappy area in the UK to an equally crappy, or worse, area in Canada. That alone disfigures any comparison you can give without generalising.

I'm happy to say that in my experience, both countries have arseholes, very nice neighbourly people, polite kids, impolite kids, helpful banking, not so helpful banking, trusting people, not so trusting people....and so on. Some areas in canada have an old school feel, and some don't. The UK is no different other than how the media reports it.
I lived in a better area in the UK than I do here. BUT when I walk to work here and young men are walking towards me wearing the notorious hoody I don't feel "threatened", unlike in the UK. I think the hoody argument is a very valid one!!
Maybe the fact that you're too old to be a hoody makes you unthreatening even if you have the hood up?

Agreed that there are idiots everywhere. But on the whole people are more back laid here. Or maybe it's just in my little part of NS. (So whilst NS is glamorous like some suggested in another thread it does have it's upsides!!)

el_richo Jul 25th 2012 4:31 am
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 10192617)
I lived in a better area in the UK than I do here. BUT when I walk to work here and young men are walking towards me wearing the notorious hoody I don't feel "threatened", unlike in the UK. I think the hoody argument is a very valid one!!
Maybe the fact that you're too old to be a hoody makes you unthreatening even if you have the hood up?

Agreed that there are idiots everywhere. But on the whole people are more back laid here. Or maybe it's just in my little part of NS. (So whilst NS is glamorous like some suggested in another thread it does have it's upsides!!)
It has been validated by the media in the most part. How do you feel it's valid? Did you feel threatened in the UK where you lived because you'd been attacked verbally or physically? Would you feel the same where you live in Canada if you were attacked by youth wearing a hooded top?

I would wager the vast majority of people in both the UK and Canada who wear hooded tops do NOT commit crime.

Perception is all about what we want to believe through media and/or what we experience. The fact that most people on here have more experience in the UK than Canada, and the Canadian media doesn't sensationalise the clothing of those commiting crime helps sway the perception.

And who are you calling old. I'm young enough to get away with a hooded top and a menacing look :p

Funnily enough, the time my cousins wife was racially attacked for being Indian, the Asian youth were wearing hooded tops. It doesn't make me look at youth wearing them any differently than i did in the UK where i didn't experience any issues at all with people clothed that way.

Jingsamichty Jul 25th 2012 4:55 am
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10192679)
It has been validated by the media in the most part. How do you feel it's valid? Did you feel threatened in the UK where you lived because you'd been attacked verbally or physically? Would you feel the same where you live in Canada if you were attacked by youth wearing a hooded top?

I would wager the vast majority of people in both the UK and Canada who wear hooded tops do NOT commit crime.

Perception is all about what we want to believe through media and/or what we experience. The fact that most people on here have more experience in the UK than Canada, and the Canadian media doesn't sensationalise the clothing of those commiting crime helps sway the perception.

And who are you calling old. I'm young enough to get away with a hooded top and a menacing look :p

Funnily enough, the time my cousins wife was racially attacked for being Indian, the Asian youth were wearing hooded tops. It doesn't make me look at youth wearing them any differently than i did in the UK where i didn't experience any issues at all with people clothed that way.
Pregnancy has made you far too sensible.

el_richo Jul 25th 2012 5:03 am
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 10192710)
Pregnancy has made you far too sensible.
Yes dear :o



.....oops, sorry. That's an automated response i've recently developed :(

scrubbedexpat133 Jul 26th 2012 10:37 am
Re: going back in time
 
I disagree with the woman in their place comment. (joke or otherwise) I am often surprised by how many women you see here working in the transport, warehouse and construction industries compared to the UK

DandNHill Jul 26th 2012 11:59 am
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by Alex2201 (Post 10195318)
I disagree with the woman in their place comment. (joke or otherwise) I am often surprised by how many women you see here working in the transport, warehouse and construction industries compared to the UK
I hadn't noticed really but there is a woman whose job it is to hold one of those stop signs they use when there are roadworks to control the traffic. She wears a pink security helmet. I think that is kool. She might do a man's job but she still asserts herself as a woman! lol :thumbsup:

Alan2005 Jul 26th 2012 12:03 pm
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 10195419)
I hadn't noticed really but there is a woman whose job it is to hold one of those stop signs they use when there are roadworks to control the traffic. She wears a pink security helmet. I think that is kool. She might do a man's job but she still asserts herself as a woman! lol :thumbsup:
That's a woman's job - 99% of the people that do that are women.

I could mention that the existence of that job says something - why not use portable traffic lights like you get in other places? Cheaper and safer.

DandNHill Jul 26th 2012 12:05 pm
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10195422)
That's a woman's job - 99% of the people that do that are women.

I could mention that the existence of that job says something - why not use portable traffic lights like you get in other places? Cheaper and safer.
Well she's the only woman around here who does it.
I agree though about the traffic lights. It could be that they haven't thought about it yet. Saying that it would increase the unemployment so maybe we shouldn't suggest it! :o

el_richo Jul 26th 2012 12:07 pm
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by Alex2201 (Post 10195318)
I disagree with the woman in their place comment. (joke or otherwise) I am often surprised by how many women you see here working in the transport, warehouse and construction industries compared to the UK
They're all lesbians

DandNHill Jul 26th 2012 12:08 pm
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10195428)
They're all lesbians
Do you think? They are a bit butch but then those stop signs are quite heavy...

Alan2005 Jul 26th 2012 12:20 pm
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 10195426)
Well she's the only woman around here who does it.
I agree though about the traffic lights. It could be that they haven't thought about it yet. Saying that it would increase the unemployment so maybe we shouldn't suggest it! :o
I think it's a union thing. At least it is here in BC.

nikki dreaming Jul 26th 2012 12:39 pm
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10195438)
I think it's a union thing. At least it is here in BC.
bingo and reality is here in NS, for a large majority of the population their working philosophy is based on seasonal work, bring in what the safe/practical/economical thing to, = X% not working at all, will be interesting to see how the changes with the EI reforms impact NS, my opinion there will be a lot more people out of work permanently, culture/mentality here is very different, outside HRM, a lot of people base their life on x% year work, rest of the year dont, its a way of life here, for some individuals this is the only way they can get by

bats Jul 26th 2012 1:48 pm
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10195422)
That's a woman's job - 99% of the people that do that are women.

I could mention that the existence of that job says something - why not use portable traffic lights like you get in other places? Cheaper and safer.
I've seen those traffic lollipop people waving the sticks and then running.
Maybe I should have slowed down??

bats Jul 26th 2012 1:52 pm
Re: going back in time
 
I think much of it is based on the Canadian ideas of "this is the way we have always done things so why change", and that Canada is perfect so has no need to change or improve.

After being here 6 years I don't notice it as much as when I first came. I think I'm pretty much assimilated now.

el_richo Jul 26th 2012 2:19 pm
Re: going back in time
 
Originally Posted by nikki dreaming (Post 10195458)
bingo and reality is here in NS, for a large majority of the population their working philosophy is based on seasonal work, bring in what the safe/practical/economical thing to, = X% not working at all, will be interesting to see how the changes with the EI reforms impact NS, my opinion there will be a lot more people out of work permanently, culture/mentality here is very different, outside HRM, a lot of people base their life on x% year work, rest of the year dont, its a way of life here, for some individuals this is the only way they can get by
They should emigrate for better opportunities :thumbup:


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