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bats Jul 24th 2012 2:27 am

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Apparently "people" say this about moving to Canada. Is it true? Can anyone remember why "people" say it? I know I thought it was true when I first moved here but for the life of me I can't remember why.

Anyone??

iaink Jul 24th 2012 2:35 am

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Where I am there is virtually no crime, neighbours are neighbourly, theres little rubbish and no grafitti, kids are polite and well mannered. Yes, why would anyone say its like being in the 1950s...:D


Oh, and cell phone and internet service and charges like the early 1980s of course...:thumbdown:


YMMV....

DandNHill Jul 25th 2012 12:14 am

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People still trust each other. Kids wearing hoods are just kids wearing hoods, not hoodies...
This might be my perspective but people take time to enjoy life more here rather than chasing their tails all the time...

And yes, phone bills are in their infancy here, not much better than how much I used to pay when I got my first mobile phone with "cellnet", remember them??!!

Former Lancastrian Jul 25th 2012 12:31 am

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Do most of those people happen to be Brits or are they from outher countries :lol:
Its all perception though there are probably certain things that Canada may seem to lag behind in.
Certainly the 4g coverage in Canada is limited but how does the UKs g4 coverage compare ;)
Internet shopping this has been discussed on a few threads and what was the common consensus why not as popular maybe the shipping costs.
Transportation in major cities well Canada has it but everybody admits the UK rail network is far superior to ours though not taking into account the frigging size of Canada.
Banking I cant comment on as Im satisfied with what I use one for.
Manufacturing well yeah who can compete with the Chinese and other Asian countries and some parts of the Asian continent.
I tend to think Canadians can appear to be more laid back but all these Inter Provincial laws regarding liquor control do make us seem back in the stone ages.
Let them think what they want they are choosing to live here :lol: and if they dont like it they can always go back.

magnumpi Jul 25th 2012 12:32 am

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I agree with the above posters

IMO and i likes it

Banks talk to you one to one, and try to help not hinder

Police dont set up road side, stationary speed cams every 5 meters to get extra cash for xmas parties. (They do do hand held ones, but they are easy to spot)

Neighbours are neighbourly

Hoodies are what you where when its cold. i have at least 4.

Kids are polite, and say, sorry sir if they get in the way. Still amazes me that one.

To name but a few differences. Mostly this is my perception in Ajax.
Downtown TO or uptown Brampton,/Markham may be a different experience. In Scarborough it was just as friendly for us too.

Zen10 Jul 25th 2012 12:42 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 10190241)
Apparently "people" say this about moving to Canada. Is it true? Can anyone remember why "people" say it? I know I thought it was true when I first moved here but for the life of me I can't remember why.

Anyone??

I saw this thread en route to the Australia forum and thought it was about actually moving back in time, and was going to point out that this is considered impossible (by most) due to the limits on faster than light travel, as opposed to moving forward in time.

But it's just about polite banks.;)

dbd33 Jul 25th 2012 12:51 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 10190241)
Apparently "people" say this about moving to Canada. Is it true? Can anyone remember why "people" say it? I know I thought it was true when I first moved here but for the life of me I can't remember why.

Anyone??

Women are, by and large, kept in their place.

Former Lancastrian Jul 25th 2012 12:52 am

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Originally Posted by Zen10 (Post 10192205)
I saw this thread en route to the Australia forum and thought it was about actually moving back in time, and was going to point out that this is considered impossible (by most) due to the limits on faster than light travel, as opposed to moving forward in time.

But it's just about polite banks.;)

Must take the DeLorean out for a spin and see what happens :lol:

Former Lancastrian Jul 25th 2012 12:53 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10192222)
Women are, by and large, kept in their place.

Here come the kitchen and bedroom jokes :lol:

Zen10 Jul 25th 2012 12:53 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10192224)
Must take the DeLorean out for a spin and see what happens :lol:

Ah, if only they made films as good as that now! I might actually go to the cinema again. We're outta time Marty!

Jingsamichty Jul 25th 2012 1:00 am

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Every parking space has leaky oil marks, and the natives are proud of sending their youth off to die in other people's faraway wars.

Luckyone Jul 25th 2012 1:05 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10192229)
Here come the kitchen and bedroom jokes :lol:


As an airplane is about to crash, a female passenger jumps up frantically "If I'm going to die, I want to die feeling like a woman,"
She asks "Is there someone on this plane who is man enough to make me feel like a woman?"

A man stands up "Yes" he replies removing his shirt, whilst looking her in the eyes........

"Here, iron this!"

cheeky_monkey Jul 25th 2012 1:11 am

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Originally Posted by Luckyone (Post 10192247)
As an airplane is about to crash, a female passenger jumps up frantically "If I'm going to die, I want to die feeling like a woman,"
She asks "Is there someone on this plane who is man enough to make me feel like a woman?"

A man stands up "Yes" he replies removing his shirt, whilst looking her in the eyes........

"Here, iron this!"

How many men does it take to change a light bulb?...none... that's her job!

dollface Jul 25th 2012 1:56 am

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For the men on this thread:rofl:

el_richo Jul 25th 2012 2:40 am

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I love these topics and generalised replies.

Do you think these people were polite, trusting, and neighbourly at the time?

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Fiv...028/story.html

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Pol...955/story.html

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Van...697/story.html

I wore a hooded top in the UK, as did my friends on occasion. Does that make me a hoodie?

I'd be surprised if the people posting on this thread chose to move from a crappy area in the UK to an equally crappy, or worse, area in Canada. That alone disfigures any comparison you can give without generalising.

I'm happy to say that in my experience, both countries have arseholes, very nice neighbourly people, polite kids, impolite kids, helpful banking, not so helpful banking, trusting people, not so trusting people....and so on. Some areas in canada have an old school feel, and some don't. The UK is no different other than how the media reports it.

DandNHill Jul 25th 2012 3:56 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10192451)
I love these topics and generalised replies.

Do you think these people were polite, trusting, and neighbourly at the time?

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Fiv...028/story.html

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Pol...955/story.html

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Van...697/story.html

I wore a hooded top in the UK, as did my friends on occasion. Does that make me a hoodie?

I'd be surprised if the people posting on this thread chose to move from a crappy area in the UK to an equally crappy, or worse, area in Canada. That alone disfigures any comparison you can give without generalising.

I'm happy to say that in my experience, both countries have arseholes, very nice neighbourly people, polite kids, impolite kids, helpful banking, not so helpful banking, trusting people, not so trusting people....and so on. Some areas in canada have an old school feel, and some don't. The UK is no different other than how the media reports it.

I lived in a better area in the UK than I do here. BUT when I walk to work here and young men are walking towards me wearing the notorious hoody I don't feel "threatened", unlike in the UK. I think the hoody argument is a very valid one!!
Maybe the fact that you're too old to be a hoody makes you unthreatening even if you have the hood up?

Agreed that there are idiots everywhere. But on the whole people are more back laid here. Or maybe it's just in my little part of NS. (So whilst NS is glamorous like some suggested in another thread it does have it's upsides!!)

el_richo Jul 25th 2012 4:31 am

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Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 10192617)
I lived in a better area in the UK than I do here. BUT when I walk to work here and young men are walking towards me wearing the notorious hoody I don't feel "threatened", unlike in the UK. I think the hoody argument is a very valid one!!
Maybe the fact that you're too old to be a hoody makes you unthreatening even if you have the hood up?

Agreed that there are idiots everywhere. But on the whole people are more back laid here. Or maybe it's just in my little part of NS. (So whilst NS is glamorous like some suggested in another thread it does have it's upsides!!)

It has been validated by the media in the most part. How do you feel it's valid? Did you feel threatened in the UK where you lived because you'd been attacked verbally or physically? Would you feel the same where you live in Canada if you were attacked by youth wearing a hooded top?

I would wager the vast majority of people in both the UK and Canada who wear hooded tops do NOT commit crime.

Perception is all about what we want to believe through media and/or what we experience. The fact that most people on here have more experience in the UK than Canada, and the Canadian media doesn't sensationalise the clothing of those commiting crime helps sway the perception.

And who are you calling old. I'm young enough to get away with a hooded top and a menacing look :p

Funnily enough, the time my cousins wife was racially attacked for being Indian, the Asian youth were wearing hooded tops. It doesn't make me look at youth wearing them any differently than i did in the UK where i didn't experience any issues at all with people clothed that way.

Jingsamichty Jul 25th 2012 4:55 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10192679)
It has been validated by the media in the most part. How do you feel it's valid? Did you feel threatened in the UK where you lived because you'd been attacked verbally or physically? Would you feel the same where you live in Canada if you were attacked by youth wearing a hooded top?

I would wager the vast majority of people in both the UK and Canada who wear hooded tops do NOT commit crime.

Perception is all about what we want to believe through media and/or what we experience. The fact that most people on here have more experience in the UK than Canada, and the Canadian media doesn't sensationalise the clothing of those commiting crime helps sway the perception.

And who are you calling old. I'm young enough to get away with a hooded top and a menacing look :p

Funnily enough, the time my cousins wife was racially attacked for being Indian, the Asian youth were wearing hooded tops. It doesn't make me look at youth wearing them any differently than i did in the UK where i didn't experience any issues at all with people clothed that way.

Pregnancy has made you far too sensible.

el_richo Jul 25th 2012 5:03 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 10192710)
Pregnancy has made you far too sensible.

Yes dear :o



.....oops, sorry. That's an automated response i've recently developed :(

scrubbedexpat133 Jul 26th 2012 10:37 am

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I disagree with the woman in their place comment. (joke or otherwise) I am often surprised by how many women you see here working in the transport, warehouse and construction industries compared to the UK

DandNHill Jul 26th 2012 11:59 am

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Originally Posted by Alex2201 (Post 10195318)
I disagree with the woman in their place comment. (joke or otherwise) I am often surprised by how many women you see here working in the transport, warehouse and construction industries compared to the UK

I hadn't noticed really but there is a woman whose job it is to hold one of those stop signs they use when there are roadworks to control the traffic. She wears a pink security helmet. I think that is kool. She might do a man's job but she still asserts herself as a woman! lol :thumbsup:

Alan2005 Jul 26th 2012 12:03 pm

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Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 10195419)
I hadn't noticed really but there is a woman whose job it is to hold one of those stop signs they use when there are roadworks to control the traffic. She wears a pink security helmet. I think that is kool. She might do a man's job but she still asserts herself as a woman! lol :thumbsup:

That's a woman's job - 99% of the people that do that are women.

I could mention that the existence of that job says something - why not use portable traffic lights like you get in other places? Cheaper and safer.

DandNHill Jul 26th 2012 12:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10195422)
That's a woman's job - 99% of the people that do that are women.

I could mention that the existence of that job says something - why not use portable traffic lights like you get in other places? Cheaper and safer.

Well she's the only woman around here who does it.
I agree though about the traffic lights. It could be that they haven't thought about it yet. Saying that it would increase the unemployment so maybe we shouldn't suggest it! :o

el_richo Jul 26th 2012 12:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Alex2201 (Post 10195318)
I disagree with the woman in their place comment. (joke or otherwise) I am often surprised by how many women you see here working in the transport, warehouse and construction industries compared to the UK

They're all lesbians

DandNHill Jul 26th 2012 12:08 pm

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10195428)
They're all lesbians

Do you think? They are a bit butch but then those stop signs are quite heavy...

Alan2005 Jul 26th 2012 12:20 pm

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Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 10195426)
Well she's the only woman around here who does it.
I agree though about the traffic lights. It could be that they haven't thought about it yet. Saying that it would increase the unemployment so maybe we shouldn't suggest it! :o

I think it's a union thing. At least it is here in BC.

nikki dreaming Jul 26th 2012 12:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10195438)
I think it's a union thing. At least it is here in BC.

bingo and reality is here in NS, for a large majority of the population their working philosophy is based on seasonal work, bring in what the safe/practical/economical thing to, = X% not working at all, will be interesting to see how the changes with the EI reforms impact NS, my opinion there will be a lot more people out of work permanently, culture/mentality here is very different, outside HRM, a lot of people base their life on x% year work, rest of the year dont, its a way of life here, for some individuals this is the only way they can get by

bats Jul 26th 2012 1:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10195422)
That's a woman's job - 99% of the people that do that are women.

I could mention that the existence of that job says something - why not use portable traffic lights like you get in other places? Cheaper and safer.

I've seen those traffic lollipop people waving the sticks and then running.
Maybe I should have slowed down??

bats Jul 26th 2012 1:52 pm

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I think much of it is based on the Canadian ideas of "this is the way we have always done things so why change", and that Canada is perfect so has no need to change or improve.

After being here 6 years I don't notice it as much as when I first came. I think I'm pretty much assimilated now.

el_richo Jul 26th 2012 2:19 pm

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Originally Posted by nikki dreaming (Post 10195458)
bingo and reality is here in NS, for a large majority of the population their working philosophy is based on seasonal work, bring in what the safe/practical/economical thing to, = X% not working at all, will be interesting to see how the changes with the EI reforms impact NS, my opinion there will be a lot more people out of work permanently, culture/mentality here is very different, outside HRM, a lot of people base their life on x% year work, rest of the year dont, its a way of life here, for some individuals this is the only way they can get by

They should emigrate for better opportunities :thumbup:

jandro Jul 26th 2012 3:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10195422)
That's a woman's job - 99% of the people that do that are women.

I've never seen a man do that job. However it's quite dangerous due to standing close to the traffic. I read a couple of them were hit last year. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a woman doing construction work on those road crews here in BC.


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