glad to be here...
#16
Re: glad to be here...
I'm still in the UK and don't see the anarchy, racial tension, violence, and general lack of morals non UK residents complain of. And i live in that there London.
I personally think it's there own way of convincing themselves they made the correct decision by moving to another country to rid themselves of there inner demons.
I personally think it's there own way of convincing themselves they made the correct decision by moving to another country to rid themselves of there inner demons.
I still think the UK can still be an OK place to live, I just happen to think Canada is better for me and my family, otherwise why would I stay here? Family and friends in the UK seem to get on OK, the main difference seems to be they get more snow, and they pay more for their houses.
#17
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read a pretty downbeat article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...rt-of-comments
british asian describes the racial and physical abuse he suffered on a London bus in full view of other passengers.
bad in itself, but the comments are very interesting veering from the defensive "put up or shut up" kind to similarly grim anecdotes on the tube, and occasionally sympathy.
reading them made me think how pleasant commuting on Translink is in comparison, not to mention just how morally lost the UK has become.
worth a read if you're toying with the idea of heading back to blighty
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...rt-of-comments
british asian describes the racial and physical abuse he suffered on a London bus in full view of other passengers.
bad in itself, but the comments are very interesting veering from the defensive "put up or shut up" kind to similarly grim anecdotes on the tube, and occasionally sympathy.
reading them made me think how pleasant commuting on Translink is in comparison, not to mention just how morally lost the UK has become.
worth a read if you're toying with the idea of heading back to blighty
http://blog.oregonlive.com/commuting...iver_assa.html
http://www.theprovince.com/TransLink...808/story.html
http://www.straight.com/article-2465...ers-union-says
Translink sounds very dangerous to me. I'll stick with the Jubilee line for a while followed by the luxury of my car with doors locked and baseball bat at the ready
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Re: glad to be here...
Is the author lying?
Does that fact that someone doesn't experience incidents like this mean that they don't happen?
If they do happen are they acceptable?
If not, why isn't there a poster saying they are not acceptable?
Does that fact that someone doesn't experience incidents like this mean that they don't happen?
If they do happen are they acceptable?
If not, why isn't there a poster saying they are not acceptable?
#20
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Re: glad to be here...
el_richo,
thanks for those links, very informative. but i don't feel that those contradict my opinion, more the opposite.
contrast that to the article and its responses to any of those stories you posted and the difference is that there is more passivity in dealing with (and the reporting of) those kind of problems over there compared to here in Van.
thanks for those links, very informative. but i don't feel that those contradict my opinion, more the opposite.
contrast that to the article and its responses to any of those stories you posted and the difference is that there is more passivity in dealing with (and the reporting of) those kind of problems over there compared to here in Van.
#21
Re: glad to be here...
el_richo,
thanks for those links, very informative. but i don't feel that those contradict my opinion, more the opposite.
contrast that to the article and its responses to any of those stories you posted and the difference is that there is more passivity in dealing with (and the reporting of) those kind of problems over there compared to here in Van.
thanks for those links, very informative. but i don't feel that those contradict my opinion, more the opposite.
contrast that to the article and its responses to any of those stories you posted and the difference is that there is more passivity in dealing with (and the reporting of) those kind of problems over there compared to here in Van.
I personally feel much safer on the London Underground than on the Vancouver Skytrain, for example. Even so, i wouldn't opine Vancouver is becoming morally lost due to unpleasant and dangerous isolated incidents cos that would be silly.
#22
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i am surprised you'd feel safer on the tube and would be interested to know why.
there are no silent alarms within easy reach and a comparative absence of staff on tube platforms. sure there are about 4 cameras on each one in every tube station and the and a couple of little panic stations at either end, but its an excuse for more surveillance rather than a genuine protection and is no substitute for people on the ground. a day doesnt go by without seeing some skytrain staff at train level.
and when do londoners thank their bus driver as we often do here?
drivers on my then local bus route back in london had these
happy commuting
there are no silent alarms within easy reach and a comparative absence of staff on tube platforms. sure there are about 4 cameras on each one in every tube station and the and a couple of little panic stations at either end, but its an excuse for more surveillance rather than a genuine protection and is no substitute for people on the ground. a day doesnt go by without seeing some skytrain staff at train level.
and when do londoners thank their bus driver as we often do here?
drivers on my then local bus route back in london had these
happy commuting
#23
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They don't. After travelling on a few buses around Vancouver i have to say i also didn't notice people thanking the driver either (although i did cos i'm easily pleased).
When have London bus users witnessed a beheading?
There's no point in arguing about this. Perceptions differ greatly BUT isolated incidents do not mean a country is falling foul of morality nor degenerating into a melting pot of violence and racism, as you imply.
Last edited by el_richo; Feb 23rd 2010 at 6:17 pm.
#24
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The UK's an absolute disgrace, devoid of any moral fiber and ethically bankrupt. It’s a rude, angry place where the people are only interested in celebrity culture and getting pissed every night, fighting, beating up immigrants and old people. Crime is rampant, the education system is a joke, the trains are always late, the food is terrible and there are too many people. The cops are getting out of control, the media is awash with lies, homelessness is everywhere, there's nothing in the UK that's even worth saving, its all so sad, because once were a proud nation, a nation with an empire, where people knew what law and order was, respected their betters and did an honest days work for an honest pound. We were a nation of Shakespeare, Elgar and Wordsworth, now all we have is bloody Damien bloody Hirst sticking plastic fannies in pots of glue. Give me ****ing break, not on my watch buddy.
#25
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I was on the TTC last Saturday and there were Gothics on there drinking metholated spirits....much more intimidating than anything I'd ever seen on on the Tube. And let's not mention having to wait an average of 6 minutes every time I need to get somewhere..........
I want someone to explain to me why because you move countries you have to be seen to bash your old country at every opportunity ?
There seems to be little evidence that Canada is any less racist than the UK- so if that's a reason to immigrate then it's a very poor one.
In the article the man was to scared to speak up for himself so surely he can understand why other people may have ben scared.
Last edited by JamesM; Feb 23rd 2010 at 6:51 pm. Reason: spelling and ammendment
#26
Re: glad to be here...
I've been on the tube. I've been on the subway in Toronto. Also on the subway in NYC and in St. Louis and Las Vegas and Koala Lumpa and the L in Chicago and the metro in Paris and in Montreal and the BART and the trams in New Orleans and some transity things in Seattle and Calgary and Adelaide and, I suppose, more trains and buses and trams in other places I don't immediately recall.
In some of these systems I felt robbed after paying the fare. Otherwise not. hth.
In some of these systems I felt robbed after paying the fare. Otherwise not. hth.