George Galloway - Twat or not?
#31
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I enjoy listening to what Galloway has to say. At least he's not a war criminal who led his country into an illegal genocidal invasion of another sovereign nation on pretence of excuses that have been proved to be total lies.
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Still, a nice smear campaign was all that was required to defuse the harm he could do (if you remember, his anti war stance was the majority opinion in the UK). No need to fabricate court level evidence, just enough to castrate him as a political force (which was the actual end result).
You think this wouldn't happen? The authorities would never stoop to this? Well, Saddam might not have been a saint, but you forget that the government completely invented the evidence about WMD's and Saddams ability to deploy them in 45 minutes (well, if you are going to lie, lie big).
And also, please stop conflating my defence of Galloway from lies with support for either him, his opinions, or Saddam (which you seemed to imply for some reason). He's a publicity seeking attention whore and Saddam was a brutal, albeit WMD'less, dictator.
You think this wouldn't happen? The authorities would never stoop to this? Well, Saddam might not have been a saint, but you forget that the government completely invented the evidence about WMD's and Saddams ability to deploy them in 45 minutes (well, if you are going to lie, lie big).
And also, please stop conflating my defence of Galloway from lies with support for either him, his opinions, or Saddam (which you seemed to imply for some reason). He's a publicity seeking attention whore and Saddam was a brutal, albeit WMD'less, dictator.
No Iraqi missile had a range long enough to reach closer than the SE tip of Cyprus. I believe it was all an excuse to secure oil supplies and to stop Israel from starting a war in the Middle East, which is what I believe would have happened if they'd bombed any Arab country.
I don't support Galloway, but I agree with some of his opinions, and I defend his right to free speech.
#35
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...o-protest.html
Genocidal?
#36
A precedent was sent for anyone coming in to Canada to start crap.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...o-protest.html
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...o-protest.html
#38
Didn't the Supreme Court state that Canada has to repatriate Mr. Kadr. I have heard of Mr. Galloway advocating the murder of his fellow citizens?
#39
I do say hate speech and differentiate in that Phelps and crew target specific members of the public whereas, while Galloway's position may clash with that of the government of the day, it is a political one not vastly different from that of the government in Canada at the time of all that nonsense about WMDs. Galloway is not attacking any individual and especially not doing so in a way that clashes with that person's Charter rights. Harper and Kenney don't like him attacking their opinions, they're delicate, I feel for them, but he's not a physical threat to them and they don't need a ban.
#40
I do say hate speech and differentiate in that Phelps and crew target specific members of the public whereas, while Galloway's position may clash with that of the government of the day, it is a political one not vastly different from that of the government in Canada at the time of all that nonsense about WMDs. Galloway is not attacking any individual and especially not doing so in a way that clashes with that person's Charter rights. Harper and Kenney don't like him attacking their opinions, they're delicate, I feel for them, but he's not a physical threat to them and they don't need a ban.
#42
Ok with the first sentence. The next two are irrelevant, but since you asked, I wasn't aware that Geert Wilders had been prevented from entering the UK, but if he was, whoever decided that is a twat.
#43
I don't think he should have been banned either. I'm pretty much comfortable with the First Ammendment, unless it's a direct threat to an individual (or his next of kin in the case of Phelps) then come on and spout any old bollocks.
#44
I do say hate speech and differentiate in that Phelps and crew target specific members of the public whereas, while Galloway's position may clash with that of the government of the day, it is a political one not vastly different from that of the government in Canada at the time of all that nonsense about WMDs. Galloway is not attacking any individual and especially not doing so in a way that clashes with that person's Charter rights. Harper and Kenney don't like him attacking their opinions, they're delicate, I feel for them, but he's not a physical threat to them and they don't need a ban.
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