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airbornesapper Oct 3rd 2010 1:44 am

George Galloway - Twat or not?
 
So "Gorgeous George" has made his way to Canada from across the pond.

Not wanting to be non-partisan, I am so glad the he has fully recovered from the direct hit he received from a small blue foam stress ball while riding on a London bus apparently while bellowing incessantly.

http://www.anorak.co.uk/183220/tablo...struction.html

For a moment, I wondered if the Tory connected fella that threw or launched the tennis sized ball used had been trained by George's fellow Scotsman Andy Murray.

I am actually glad he was allowed in, I think it's awesome.....his dealings on the world stage with the likes of Saddam and Co endeared him to so many....hell I hope he considers biweekly trips...

Perhaps he is here for talks about a North American appearance on Big Brother.....akin to cash for shite unless there are other oil for food like programs that need revamping with his help.

Anywayz.....have to go to the washroom...as I have to m0ve things along on a on a go forward basis.

GO, GEORGE GO....Eh....Douche bag anybody.

Lord Vader Oct 3rd 2010 2:27 am

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World class twat

macadian Oct 3rd 2010 3:35 am

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8893039)
World class twat

Of the first order...a man (I use the term loosley) to be thoroughly ignored...by the world!

Nicola N-A Oct 3rd 2010 5:39 am

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major twat, pratt, waste of oxygen.........need I go on?

Alan2005 Oct 3rd 2010 5:49 am

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He's a publicity seeking, self aggrandising twat. However he does have the occasional lucid 'not a twat' moment, such as when he met the US senate and made them look like the complete idiots they really are. Especially when he pointed out that he has only met Saddam as many times as Donald Rumsfeld... Brilliant.

The first of 5...

Oink Oct 3rd 2010 6:16 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8893279)
He's a publicity seeking, self aggrandising twat. However he does have the occasional lucid 'not a twat' moment, such as when he met the US senate and made them look like the complete idiots they really are. Especially when he pointed out that he has only met Saddam as many times as Donald Rumsfeld... Brilliant.

The first of 5...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyyGoPerzWc

I was living in the US when he appeared. And, as you rightly mention he made them (US Senate Committee) look like complete knobs, especially that dim-witted Norm Coleman.

airbornesapper Oct 3rd 2010 6:52 am

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I'm still wondering why a full investigation by the British authorities was not conducted over the allegations, where he and then wife Dr Abu-Zayyad came by the funds mentioned below:

"Suspension from the House of Commons - On 17 July 2007, following a four-year inquiry, the House of Commons Select Committee on Standards and Privileges published its sixth report. The committee concluded that there was "no evidence" that Galloway gained any personal benefit from either the former Iraqi regime, or from the Oil-for-Food Programme. It did not examine the bank account of Galloway's former wife or their joint account.

I have not found evidence that Mr Galloway has, directly and personally, unlawfully received moneys from the former Iraqi regime. I have been given evidence by Dr Al-Chalabi of a payment by him of $120,000 to Mr Galloway's former wife, Dr Abu-Zayyad, which derived from a commission payment Dr Al-Chalabi received under the programme.

As I do not have access to the bank accounts in question, I do not know whether Mr Galloway benefited in any way from this payment. Nor do I know whether Mr Galloway benefited from a payment of $150,000 to Dr Abu-Zayyad which the US Senate Permanent Sub-Committee on Investigations found to have been made by Mr Fawaz Zureikat out of oil contract commission.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Galloway

Amazing to me that the loop was not properly closed here and the public informed....the result of the powers that be doing their job....it is certainly apparent that there was a lack of willingness by the New Labour gang to do a full and rightful investigation.

A WTF moment.....

Cookie Oct 3rd 2010 7:59 am

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TOP TWAT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-D5XoNWFSQ

Pass me the sick bag :eek:

Novocastrian Oct 3rd 2010 8:35 am

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George is a bit eccentric but a top class debater.

If there's a twat around (present company excepted) it's Jason Kenney.

Dave+Jules Oct 3rd 2010 9:19 am

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I think he is a total twat, but that said I loved watching him effortlessly savage the US senate committee...

Also he shouldnt be banned, freedom of speech is imperative even (or especially) when it is twatish:cool:

Probably corrupt and receiving payments from all sorts of places, but then aren't all politicians?

Lord Vader Oct 3rd 2010 9:29 am

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He is free to blab all he wants. Doesn't mean that he should be welcome in this country. He is becoming a hero for the far left types in Canada, as if they needed the extra batshit sauce on their cornflakes.

joepublic Oct 3rd 2010 9:32 am

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Originally Posted by Cookie (Post 8893494)
TOP TWAT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-D5XoNWFSQ

Pass me the sick bag :eek:

It still gives me nightmares, I remember it well. I'd love to hear a psychologist's take on it :ohmy:.

airbornesapper Oct 3rd 2010 11:29 am

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Originally Posted by Cookie (Post 8893494)
TOP TWAT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-D5XoNWFSQ

Pass me the sick bag :eek:

No problem....how about about a multi-use bag....who would have thought ;)

"The travel John is an innovative new solution for anytime you are caught short and there is no toilet around. Perfect for traffic jams, motion sickness, potty training, camping/hinting, boating etc."

http://www.blushingbuyer.co.uk/produ...;Warehouse.jpg

Not sure if these are by the makers of the mosque and cathedral repellent...

Anyway £9.95 for three....and more use than Gorgeous George....

http://www.blushingbuyer.co.uk/produ...-kit-3-pk.html

jimf Oct 3rd 2010 11:53 am

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He is a big head but can always give a good account of himself. It's difficult to take him seriously since the Big Brother appearance though.


I think poor old Anthony needed a bit more preparation before taking on George in this phone in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml9MP...eature=related

Alan2005 Oct 3rd 2010 12:51 pm

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Originally Posted by airbornesapper (Post 8893416)
....it is certainly apparent that there was a lack of willingness by the New Labour gang to do a full and rightful investigation.

A WTF moment.....

Yes, a WTF moment all right. as in WTF are you on about? Galloway wasn't a part of new labour - he was booted out in '03 and then stood independently. He may have had sympathisers in the party - but those at the top hated him. Blair would have gladly hung him out to dry.

Did you even watch the senate committee hearings? They talk about his alleged iraqi oil profits - it turns out all the allegations were made up. He may be an attention seeking twat, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to cheer him on when he makes the people that made this shit up about him look like total knobs (as Oink put it better than I could).

Joe_Sleepy Oct 3rd 2010 1:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8893338)
I was living in the US when he appeared. And, as you rightly mention he made them (US Senate Committee) look like complete knobs, especially that dim-witted Norm Coleman.

In the land of the moron the self aggrandising twat is king...
The man is a giant asshat but free speech is free speech & should be protected at all costs...

airbornesapper Oct 3rd 2010 1:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8893760)
Yes, a WTF moment all right. as in WTF are you on about? Galloway wasn't a part of new labour - he was booted out in '03 and then stood independently. He may have had sympathisers in the party - but those at the top hated him. Blair would have gladly hung him out to dry.

Did you even watch the senate committee hearings? They talk about his alleged iraqi oil profits - it turns out all the allegations were made up. He may be an attention seeking twat, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to cheer him on when he makes the people that made this shit up about him look like total knobs (as Oink put it better than I could).

**** me...sure he was punted in 03 from Labour, but it was not until 07 that finally got the boot from the Commons for these undisclosed dealings.

The full report can be found via the link below, but how this Commons committee could draw meaningful conclusions when by their own admission they "did not examine the bank account of Galloway's former wife or their joint account" while doing so is ridiculous.

If they did not have the power to fully investigate then the Govt should have ensured that those that could have, did so. Anyway:

http://www.publications.parliament.u.../909/90902.htm

Seems to me those aspects pasted into my earlier post remain unanswered. The Govt of the day failed to ensure that all this was properly investigated, plain and simple....why WTFK.

As for what was presented to the 2005 US Senate hearing....you spin it how you want....Guess which version I will believe until the matter is fully disclosed by Galloway or others. Certainly not yours.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...rt-512467.html

Gorgeous Galloway incapable of lying...seems that many others see things differently, including this fella:

http://www.johannhari.com/2004/12/06...in-blatant-lie

Kenny was wrong to ban this loser.....the days ahead will be interesting.

Ah well.......

DaveLovesDee Oct 3rd 2010 2:12 pm

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If an idiot like George Galloway can make the US Senate look like fools, what does that say about US Senators?

Alan2005 Oct 3rd 2010 2:49 pm

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Originally Posted by airbornesapper (Post 8893837)
**** me...sure he was punted in 03 from Labour, but it was not until 07 that finally got the boot from the Commons for these undisclosed dealings.

The full report can be found via the link below, but how this Commons committee could draw meaningful conclusions when by their own admission they "did not examine the bank account of Galloway's former wife or their joint account" while doing so is ridiculous.

If they did not have the power to fully investigate then the Govt should have ensured that those that could have, did so. Anyway:

http://www.publications.parliament.u.../909/90902.htm

Seems to me those aspects pasted into my earlier post remain unanswered. The Govt of the day failed to ensure that all this was properly investigated, plain and simple....why WTFK.

As for what was presented to the 2005 US Senate hearing....you spin it how you want....Guess which version I will believe until the matter is fully disclosed by Galloway or others. Certainly not yours.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...rt-512467.html

Gorgeous Galloway incapable of lying...seems that many others see things differently, including this fella:

http://www.johannhari.com/2004/12/06...in-blatant-lie

Kenny was wrong to ban this loser.....the days ahead will be interesting.

Ah well.......

Sure, you believe your revisionist version of events. The fact is that if there was any evidence the UK and US governments of the day would have pursued it for all that it was worth. They didn't because they had none. It wasn't because the labour party were doing him a favour, which only somebody with an agenda would believe.

airbornesapper Oct 3rd 2010 4:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8893887)
Sure, you believe your revisionist version of events. The fact is that if there was any evidence the UK and US governments of the day would have pursued it for all that it was worth. They didn't because they had none. It wasn't because the labour party were doing him a favour, which only somebody with an agenda would believe.

Revisionist; get real.

I would say this whole sordid saga remains an unwritten chapter. Until a real investigation is conducted with a criminal trail if need be...that's the way it is in my book.

However, if elements of his conduct /dealings over Iraq in particular ever ended up in criminal court room, I don't think the Galloway camp would be calling Oliver Thorne with respect to supposedly incriminating Saddam regime documents found in a bombed-out building:

"The issue of whether the documents were genuine was likewise not at issue at the trial. However, it later transpired that the expert hired by Galloway's lawyers, a forensic expert named Oliver Thorne, said "In my opinion the evidence found fully supports that the vast majority of the submitted documents are authentic."[103] He added "It should be noted that I am unable to comment on the veracity of the information within the disputed Telegraph documents, whether or not they are authentic."

You will be telling me next that Uday Hussain was actually a Saint not a murderous thug....he was certainly already that and more when George came on the scene, although that did not seem to bother Galloway although I am sure he was briefed. A link to one of their encounters:

http://www.pakistan.tv/videos-george...-uday-hussein-[gRGFLCYr-fo].cfm

Anyway, this fella sums things up quite well:

George Galloway: an odd champion of free speech
by Michael Petrou on Friday, March 27, 2009

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/03/27/g...f-free-speech/

"But it’s worth remembering the man behind the charm. He reacts to unpleasant questions from journalists with belligerence and insults. He praised Saddam Hussein. And he once described the disappearance of the Soviet Union – one of the most murderous regimes in history – as “the biggest disaster of my life.” I’m confident that Canadians would tire of Galloway once they got to know him."

I for one hope that one day we will find out the truth.....George is reported to have said to Uday, "that he was with him to the end".....we know how that finished....but no George though....

As I said, ah well.

iaink Oct 4th 2010 1:09 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8893540)
George is a bit eccentric but a top class debater.

If there's a twat around (present company excepted) it's Jason Kenney.

+1

I dont much agree with him, but he is one of very few politicians I can think of who stands by his principals and is able to defend them eloquently. I respect him for that.

Plus his performance in the US senate was a treat, and he has a way of getting under the skin of people I like even less:thumbup:

No one should be banned for speakign their mind, freedom of speach is at its most important when people are saying things you dont like or dont want to hear, and the pretence that hes raising money for terrorist organisations is derisable.

Jingsamichty Oct 4th 2010 1:54 am

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From the days in the early 80s when he used his position on the city council to twin our hometown (Dundee) with Nablus in Palestine, he has always been one for the grand inflammatory gesture.

He is a very skilled debater and orator, and he can easily outbluster anybody, rendering their arguments ineffective, regardless of the rights or wrongs of his own position.

Given that a very large proportion of politicians are slimy, professional liars, eager to fill their pockets at taxpayers expense, is George any worse than most of them? There is a need for politicians who will challenge the party line, who are not afraid of public ridicule when they speak their mind.

Alan2005 Oct 4th 2010 3:59 am

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Originally Posted by airbornesapper (Post 8893967)
Revisionist; get real.

I would say this whole sordid saga remains an unwritten chapter. Until a real investigation is conducted with a criminal trail if need be...that's the way it is in my book.

However, if elements of his conduct /dealings over Iraq in particular ever ended up in criminal court room, I don't think the Galloway camp would be calling Oliver Thorne with respect to supposedly incriminating Saddam regime documents found in a bombed-out building:

"The issue of whether the documents were genuine was likewise not at issue at the trial. However, it later transpired that the expert hired by Galloway's lawyers, a forensic expert named Oliver Thorne, said "In my opinion the evidence found fully supports that the vast majority of the submitted documents are authentic."[103] He added "It should be noted that I am unable to comment on the veracity of the information within the disputed Telegraph documents, whether or not they are authentic."

You will be telling me next that Uday Hussain was actually a Saint not a murderous thug....he was certainly already that and more when George came on the scene, although that did not seem to bother Galloway although I am sure he was briefed. A link to one of their encounters:

http://www.pakistan.tv/videos-george...-uday-hussein-[gRGFLCYr-fo].cfm

Anyway, this fella sums things up quite well:

George Galloway: an odd champion of free speech
by Michael Petrou on Friday, March 27, 2009

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/03/27/g...f-free-speech/

"But it’s worth remembering the man behind the charm. He reacts to unpleasant questions from journalists with belligerence and insults. He praised Saddam Hussein. And he once described the disappearance of the Soviet Union – one of the most murderous regimes in history – as “the biggest disaster of my life.” I’m confident that Canadians would tire of Galloway once they got to know him."

I for one hope that one day we will find out the truth.....George is reported to have said to Uday, "that he was with him to the end".....we know how that finished....but no George though....

As I said, ah well.

This is very naive. If there was real evidence he absolutely would have been prosecuted - he was nothing but a thorn in the side of the UK government at the time.

Still, a nice smear campaign was all that was required to defuse the harm he could do (if you remember, his anti war stance was the majority opinion in the UK). No need to fabricate court level evidence, just enough to castrate him as a political force (which was the actual end result). You think this wouldn't happen? The authorities would never stoop to this? Well, Saddam might not have been a saint, but you forget that the government completely invented the evidence about WMD's and Saddams ability to deploy them in 45 minutes (well, if you are going to lie, lie big).

You should stop googling opinion and speculation on the internet that matches your own world view and start looking at the broader picture of who gains and who loses from these allegations and the subsequent actions taken. Motivations are usually clearer when you do this.

And also, please stop conflating my defence of Galloway from lies with support for either him, his opinions, or Saddam (which you seemed to imply for some reason). He's a publicity seeking attention whore and Saddam was a brutal, albeit WMD'less, dictator.

greentea3 Oct 4th 2010 5:19 am

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[QUOTE=Alan2005;8894996]This is very naive. If there was real evidence he absolutely would have been prosecuted) -

So why no prosecutions in the case of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi (lockerbie) ? there seems to me to be 'evidence' that he hasn't snuffed it yet, after a year of being released. Doesn't it go to say that even with 'evidence' people don't always get prosecuted?

I know this is a different subject entirely but still you have to remember there are things happening out there were there is evidence and it doesn't always lead to prosecution.

(can't wait to get ripped apart from the clique now for posting)

Oink Oct 4th 2010 5:21 am

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[QUOTE=greentea3;8895183]

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8894996)
This is very naive. If there was real evidence he absolutely would have been prosecuted) -

So why no prosecutions in the case of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi (lockerbie) ? there seems to me to be 'evidence' that he hasn't snuffed it yet, after a year of being released. Doesn't it go to say that even with 'evidence' people don't always get prosecuted?

I know this is a different subject entirely but still you have to remember there are things happening out there were there is evidence and it doesn't always lead to prosecution.

(can't wait to get ripped apart from the clique now for posting)

And OJ Simpson got off when the glove supposedly didn't fit.

iaink Oct 4th 2010 5:23 am

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You've lost me? I thought this was about Galloway? What does the Locerbie fellow have to do with anything?

Incidently, while he may not be dead yet, hes hardly living the high life and I for one wouldnt swap shoes with him!

Joe_Sleepy Oct 4th 2010 5:26 am

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Who, in the name of all that's holy, do you think is protecting him!?
He is universally detested by the British Political classes...:confused:

Someone being an enormous prick doesn't mean they have any influence, the bloated hydra of US interested parties laughably called him out & failed to prove a single accusation...

el_richo Oct 4th 2010 5:27 am

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Originally Posted by greentea3 (Post 8895183)
This is very naive. If there was real evidence he absolutely would have been prosecuted) -

So why no prosecutions in the case of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi (lockerbie) ? there seems to me to be 'evidence' that he hasn't snuffed it yet, after a year of being released. Doesn't it go to say that even with 'evidence' people don't always get prosecuted?

I know this is a different subject entirely but still you have to remember there are things happening out there were there is evidence and it doesn't always lead to prosecution.

(can't wait to get ripped apart from the clique now for posting)

Erm, he was prosecuted :unsure:

Alan2005 Oct 4th 2010 5:29 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8895207)
Erm, he was prosecuted :unsure:

I never said that!!! I hate it when quotes get buggered up.

el_richo Oct 4th 2010 5:30 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8895212)
I never said that!!! I hate it when quotes get buggered up.

Bloody quotes. All fixed ;)

Cyan Oct 4th 2010 8:03 am

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I enjoy listening to what Galloway has to say. At least he's not a war criminal who led his country into an illegal genocidal invasion of another sovereign nation on pretence of excuses that have been proved to be total lies.

Oink Oct 4th 2010 8:29 am

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Originally Posted by Cyan (Post 8895494)
I enjoy listening to what Galloway has to say. At least he's not a war criminal who led his country into an illegal genocidal invasion of another sovereign nation on pretence of excuses that have been proved to be total lies.

But he is Scotch.

iaink Oct 4th 2010 8:38 am

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Scotch is a drink, not a nationality:frown:

DaveLovesDee Oct 4th 2010 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8894996)
Still, a nice smear campaign was all that was required to defuse the harm he could do (if you remember, his anti war stance was the majority opinion in the UK). No need to fabricate court level evidence, just enough to castrate him as a political force (which was the actual end result).

You think this wouldn't happen? The authorities would never stoop to this? Well, Saddam might not have been a saint, but you forget that the government completely invented the evidence about WMD's and Saddams ability to deploy them in 45 minutes (well, if you are going to lie, lie big).
And also, please stop conflating my defence of Galloway from lies with support for either him, his opinions, or Saddam (which you seemed to imply for some reason). He's a publicity seeking attention whore and Saddam was a brutal, albeit WMD'less, dictator.

I remember when it's was said that Iraqi WMD missiles were a threat to the UK.

No Iraqi missile had a range long enough to reach closer than the SE tip of Cyprus. I believe it was all an excuse to secure oil supplies and to stop Israel from starting a war in the Middle East, which is what I believe would have happened if they'd bombed any Arab country.

I don't support Galloway, but I agree with some of his opinions, and I defend his right to free speech.

Lord Vader Oct 4th 2010 12:11 pm

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8894727)
No one should be banned for speakign their mind, freedom of speech is at its most important when people are saying things you don't like or don't want to hear, and the pretense that hes raising money for terrorist organizations is desirable.

No one is preventing him from speaking his mind. He can do that all he wants, but he has no given right to enter someone else's country. A precedent was sent for anyone coming in to Canada to start crap.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...o-protest.html


Originally Posted by Cyan (Post 8895494)
I enjoy listening to what Galloway has to say. At least he's not a war criminal who led his country into an illegal genocidal invasion of another sovereign nation on pretense of excuses that have been proved to be total lies.

Genocidal?

dbd33 Oct 4th 2010 12:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8895977)
A precedent was sent for anyone coming in to Canada to start crap.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...o-protest.html

Hardly comparable, the God Hates Fags people intended to enter Canada specifically to commit a crime.

Lord Vader Oct 4th 2010 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8895981)
Hardly comparable, the God Hates Fags people intended to enter Canada specifically to commit a crime.

What was their crime? If you say hate speech, then Galloway spreads hate too.

Almost Canadian Oct 4th 2010 12:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8895993)
What was their crime? If you say hate speech, then Galloway spreads hate too.

So do some Jews, Christians, Muslims and Palestinians, are they all to be banned as well?

Didn't the Supreme Court state that Canada has to repatriate Mr. Kadr. I have heard of Mr. Galloway advocating the murder of his fellow citizens?

dbd33 Oct 4th 2010 12:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8895993)
What was their crime? If you say hate speech, then Galloway spreads hate too.

I do say hate speech and differentiate in that Phelps and crew target specific members of the public whereas, while Galloway's position may clash with that of the government of the day, it is a political one not vastly different from that of the government in Canada at the time of all that nonsense about WMDs. Galloway is not attacking any individual and especially not doing so in a way that clashes with that person's Charter rights. Harper and Kenney don't like him attacking their opinions, they're delicate, I feel for them, but he's not a physical threat to them and they don't need a ban.

jimf Oct 4th 2010 1:31 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8896011)
I do say hate speech and differentiate in that Phelps and crew target specific members of the public whereas, while Galloway's position may clash with that of the government of the day, it is a political one not vastly different from that of the government in Canada at the time of all that nonsense about WMDs. Galloway is not attacking any individual and especially not doing so in a way that clashes with that person's Charter rights. Harper and Kenney don't like him attacking their opinions, they're delicate, I feel for them, but he's not a physical threat to them and they don't need a ban.

I agree that Galloway shouldn't be banned, its a nonsense that he was. However, would you say the same about Geert Wilders being banned from entering the UK a few years ago? I see his court case started today.


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