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Old Jan 27th 2017, 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd View Post
Gender Equality...im all for it always have been, always will be, and really dont understand why in some jobs, and only some (not in my workplace) where pay and opportunities are not equal if a female can do the job just aswell she should be given the same treatment. Simple.

Just thought id put another angle on the gender equality debate.
workplace related....

I want the 'best all round quality productive employee at the lowest cost', I don't care what gender, race or their sexual preferences are. One that gives me the least hassle, I shall reward them for their productivity, that they must never let me down, or steal from me. they will always work at what they do as if it was their own business.

If I had the choice between two equally qualified/experienced male or female candidates to choose from .... who do I pick, should I flip a coin?

I hired both people to do the same job, paid the the same salary, same benefits, treated them the same. One of them let me down

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Old Jan 27th 2017, 4:27 am
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why don't you give us what you think a "lady" is from a female perspective?

And before you ask me or any other male.... I for one am clueless as always

So begin Bats, go on, give it your best shot, then maybe the males on here can jump on this one

I haven't made comments about how to "treat a lady" so I can't offer a definition on someone else's use of the word. I'm curious about how such a person is defined, how would you recognise them. I'd also like to know what form this treatment might take and how this would be different to how one would treat a female who was not considered a lady.
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I haven't made comments about how to "treat a lady" so I can't offer a definition on someone else's use of the word. I'm curious about how such a person is defined, how would you recognise them. I'd also like to know what form this treatment might take and how this would be different to how one would treat a female who was not considered a lady.
You know...a lady. One who pats her brow with a lavender scented linen handkerchief. She would ideally defer to the man's superior intellect and never voice an opposing view. Heaven forbid she should be so crass as to pass wind.
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Old Jan 27th 2017, 5:34 am
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You know...a lady. One who pats her brow with a lavender scented linen handkerchief. She would ideally defer to the man's superior intellect and never voice an opposing view. Heaven forbid she should be so crass as to pass wind.
Women break wind?


It had to be posted, it was only a matter of time....
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Old Jan 27th 2017, 6:42 am
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Women break wind?


It had to be posted, it was only a matter of time....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THO9-N--k4
Women may, but a lady never would.
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Women may, but a lady never would.
Phew... Lucky Mr Dorothy.
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Old Jan 27th 2017, 8:05 am
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Phew... Lucky Mr Dorothy.
I am all woman Dr Pup.
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Old Jan 27th 2017, 1:09 pm
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I'm a lady in the same way my husband is a gentleman. Being called a woman is fine but I hate being referred to as a female. My dogs are female...
A lady, or a gentleman, in my opinion is somebody who behaves in a respectful manner, who doesn't embarrass herself or those she's with. Nothing to do with ironing the newspaper and warming up her husband's slippers before he gets home.
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Presumably this subject - here and the other thread - is to blame for BE crashing tonight?
No that was a tech issue that very weirdly only affected a few around the world.
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Old Jan 27th 2017, 1:58 pm
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You know...a lady. One who pats her brow with a lavender scented linen handkerchief. She would ideally defer to the man's superior intellect and never voice an opposing view. Heaven forbid she should be so crass as to pass wind.
As I have said I am 100% for gender quality, equal pay conditions and treatment etc, but women are the fairer sex and in that way men and women are different, I don’t think I need to explain these differences, and I’m not just talking anatomically, so why shouldn’t each sex be treated that way? I don’t see anything wrong with that? in fact being that way, is what goes a long way in making a successful relationship.

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Russia has legalised wife-beating. That's probably going to be viewed as a step backwards.
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I'm a lady in the same way my husband is a gentleman. Being called a woman is fine but I hate being referred to as a female. My dogs are female...
A lady, or a gentleman, in my opinion is somebody who behaves in a respectful manner, who doesn't embarrass herself or those she's with. Nothing to do with ironing the newspaper and warming up her husband's slippers before he gets home.
Very well put. Excellent post.
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Old Jan 27th 2017, 2:26 pm
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You know...a lady. One who pats her brow with a lavender scented linen handkerchief. She would ideally defer to the man's superior intellect and never voice an opposing view. Heaven forbid she should be so crass as to pass wind.
Ladies do not have body functions.

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Old Jan 27th 2017, 2:40 pm
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I thought i had an unfairish deal in my last two relationships... but what your son went through was disgraceful. Hopefully as you said he learned a lesson, but hopefully he doesnt go to too much the other way after that expereince. Id class myself as a gentleman and still like to think i have chivalrous qualities and like to treat a lady like a lady when i choose to do so, but when your both earning the same money....and when they earn more i really dont think its fair at all.
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Its not something i can really put into a few sentences, I have my interpretation of what a lady is, its a collection of lots of small traits and behaviours, i know when i see it and experience it, and when i do, i like to treat them as such.
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I'm a lady in the same way my husband is a gentleman. Being called a woman is fine but I hate being referred to as a female. My dogs are female...
A lady, or a gentleman, in my opinion is somebody who behaves in a respectful manner, who doesn't embarrass herself or those she's with. Nothing to do with ironing the newspaper and warming up her husband's slippers before he gets home.
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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd View Post
Very well put. Excellent post.
DandNHill is talking of basic good manners it seems. So does calling someone a woman mean that they don't have those manners then?

These chivalrous qualities? What are they? Good manners? Politeness? Paul, you say you treat a lady as a lady when you recognise one as such. Which rather implies that you have two levels of functioning raising your game for those you consider ladies. That isn't chivalrous at all.
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Old Jan 27th 2017, 2:48 pm
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Nothing to do with ironing the newspaper and warming up her husband's slippers before he gets home.
Dam, hope my wife dosnt read this
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