Gas Prices
Apr 5th 2012, 3:37 pm
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Apr 5th 2012, 3:46 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
Even the beloved Ryanair are implementing ideas to save fuel 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...save-fuel.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...save-fuel.html
Apr 5th 2012, 7:57 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
Even the beloved Ryanair are implementing ideas to save fuel
'as part of its efforts to trim diesel bills'
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...save-fuel.html
'as part of its efforts to trim diesel bills'
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...save-fuel.html
They are running their jets on Diesel??????
Apr 5th 2012, 8:00 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
it needs to come down soon, otherwise its seriously going to jeopardise my driving south plans next year 
Apr 5th 2012, 8:02 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
You most certainly can run a piston engine (diesel) on Jet A1. The only problem here is you will significantly shorten the life of the fuel pump/injector units as Jet A1 has a about 50% of the luricity of diesel. Fuel consumption will be slightly higher due to a slightly less calorific value.
Winter diesel as used in cold climates such as Canada is typically upto 25% Jet A1. You can always add a seperate lube additive (2380 is a good one). In fact the US military use a single fuel policy which is JP8, essentially Jet A1 with 3 additives. They use this in aircraft and all "diesel" ground equipment.
Not going to say this is my work, it is copied from another website.
Winter diesel as used in cold climates such as Canada is typically upto 25% Jet A1. You can always add a seperate lube additive (2380 is a good one). In fact the US military use a single fuel policy which is JP8, essentially Jet A1 with 3 additives. They use this in aircraft and all "diesel" ground equipment.
Not going to say this is my work, it is copied from another website.
Apr 5th 2012, 8:02 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
Price drop alert tomorrow. 2c down. Before Easter, they must have got embarrassed about the raise.
Apr 5th 2012, 8:09 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
Winter diesel as used in cold climates such as Canada is typically upto 25% Jet A1. You can always add a seperate lube additive (2380 is a good one). In fact the US military use a single fuel policy which is JP8, essentially Jet A1 with 3 additives. They use this in aircraft and all "diesel" ground equipment.
Apr 5th 2012, 8:13 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
i have personally used kero in a diesel truck, lots of white smoke initially, but ran ok. I was told at the time that kero is very similar to Avgas? I don't know. i know the military try to have as few fuels as possible so that anything will work with whatever fuel you can get. the czechs used diesel for their russian helos, very smokey.
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Apr 5th 2012, 10:18 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
You most certainly can run a piston engine (diesel) on Jet A1. The only problem here is you will significantly shorten the life of the fuel pump/injector units as Jet A1 has a about 50% of the luricity of diesel. Fuel consumption will be slightly higher due to a slightly less calorific value.
Winter diesel as used in cold climates such as Canada is typically upto 25% Jet A1. You can always add a seperate lube additive (2380 is a good one). In fact the US military use a single fuel policy which is JP8, essentially Jet A1 with 3 additives. They use this in aircraft and all "diesel" ground equipment.
Not going to say this is my work, it is copied from another website.
Winter diesel as used in cold climates such as Canada is typically upto 25% Jet A1. You can always add a seperate lube additive (2380 is a good one). In fact the US military use a single fuel policy which is JP8, essentially Jet A1 with 3 additives. They use this in aircraft and all "diesel" ground equipment.
Not going to say this is my work, it is copied from another website.
Apr 5th 2012, 10:51 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
My 19 y/o volvo does roughly 8 litres per 100km. The Hyundai Elantra rental I had in Canada did the same.
Then why do you have an F150?
Insurance can run up to $500 a month as well, depending on what car you have, even if you have a no claims record. A new top of the range Audi A4 or A6 (for example) would be in that range. Even Japanese cars or US cars. Drive more than 15000 km a year and insurance goes up considerably. My old volvo is $700 a year and I have a no claims record. My road tax is $250 a year. A diesel car would be taxed at around $1000-$1500 a year.
Basically, my fuel bill would be cut in half, moving to Canada, while my insurance would probably double or more. I still think I'd save money in the long run.
Then why do you have an F150?
Insurance can run up to $500 a month as well, depending on what car you have, even if you have a no claims record. A new top of the range Audi A4 or A6 (for example) would be in that range. Even Japanese cars or US cars. Drive more than 15000 km a year and insurance goes up considerably. My old volvo is $700 a year and I have a no claims record. My road tax is $250 a year. A diesel car would be taxed at around $1000-$1500 a year.
Basically, my fuel bill would be cut in half, moving to Canada, while my insurance would probably double or more. I still think I'd save money in the long run.
Apr 6th 2012, 1:01 am
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Re: Gas Prices
I drive an f150 as i need it for work and they dont sell the van i need here except the mercedes sprinter which i can not afford the 50 thouand price tag,,,,,,and you cant be in the UK with the insurance prices and road tax prices you are quoting ,,there is not a car on the road in the UK thats $1500 a year!!!!!!
Apr 6th 2012, 1:39 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
Plenty of Volvos and Mercedes in Canada.
Apr 6th 2012, 7:02 pm
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Re: Gas Prices
I drive an f150 as i need it for work and they dont sell the van i need here except the mercedes sprinter which i can not afford the 50 thouand price tag,,,,,,and you cant be in the UK with the insurance prices and road tax prices you are quoting ,,there is not a car on the road in the UK thats $1500 a year!!!!!!
Apr 6th 2012, 7:03 pm
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