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Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 9:18 am

"The Filth"
 
A month or two ago, I was coming back from lunch and there were a few VPD officers around the block where I work. 'Wonder what the filth are doing' I remarked to the people I was with, to which they seemed nonplussed until I explained that 'the filth' was actually slang for the police in the UK. I think they were moderately shocked by this and found it a little offensive. I guess it is a little bit offensive when you think about it but this didn't stop those same people using the phrase on occasion since.

Anyway, I know there are a few coppers that post on here (rae, dboy), and so was wondering what the Canadian equivalent is? I hope it's not pigs, cos that's lame.

iaink Sep 21st 2009 9:23 am

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I hope its not mounties, cos that even lamer!

Canadians have too much respect for authority to veer too far from "Cops" I suspect.

rae Sep 21st 2009 9:26 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7951873)
A month or two ago, I was coming back from lunch and there were a few VPD officers around the block where I work. 'Wonder what the filth are doing' I remarked to the people I was with, to which they seemed nonplussed until I explained that 'the filth' was actually slang for the police in the UK. I think they were moderately shocked by this and found it a little offensive. I guess it is a little bit offensive when you think about it but this didn't stop those same people using the phrase on occasion since.

Anyway, I know there are a few coppers that post on here (rae, dboy), and so was wondering what the Canadian equivalent is? I hope it's not pigs, cos that's lame.

i think this description and level of animosity for not particular reason other than it may be 'cool' in some quarters does not exist here. po po, cops, pigs occasionally, thats about it.

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 9:30 am

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Originally Posted by rae (Post 7951896)
i think this description and level of animosity for not particular reason other than it may be 'cool' in some quarters does not exist here. po po, cops, pigs occasionally, thats about it.

For sure, I confess that I started using it for it's shock value back in my early twenties. Unfortunately (or not depending on your pov) I'm now stuck with it and it's the first thing I think of when I see the police. But, like what happens when you swear all the time, the word loses a certain amount of it's power eventually.

Edit to add: And what is po po?

PrairieSushi Sep 21st 2009 9:34 am

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The BBC has a shot of a UK soccer ground with a line of yellow separating the fans:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...07937485-1.jpg

I've seen a few people led away for rowdiness at hockey & lacrosse games ... but it's usually by two cops - never seen the need for an army of them yet.

Cop or even "police officer" seem to be the generic terms ...

rae Sep 21st 2009 9:35 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7951905)
For sure, I confess that I started using it for it's shock value back in my early twenties. Unfortunately (or not depending on your pov) I'm now stuck with it and it's the first thing I think of when I see the police. But, like what happens when you swear all the time, the word loses a certain amount of it's power eventually.

and now you are using fershore! there is no helping you.

language can be powerful, these kinds of derogatory remarks/insults never bothered me too much, its a part of the job and you learn to accept it. however, there is a time and a place where quite rightly it should not be tolerated. if this kind of remark was thrown in my direction at a large family orientated event for instance, i should imagine there would be a certain expectation that i address it. ironically these very same people that may expect this, the respectable middle class, were often the worse for it. i always got far more respect from a thief than i did a speeding motorist in his BMW.

rae Sep 21st 2009 9:37 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7951905)
For sure, I confess that I started using it for it's shock value back in my early twenties. Unfortunately (or not depending on your pov) I'm now stuck with it and it's the first thing I think of when I see the police. But, like what happens when you swear all the time, the word loses a certain amount of it's power eventually.

Edit to add: And what is po po?

sorry saw the po po thing late. seems to be white wannabe gangsta and a native term mainly for the cops.

rae Sep 21st 2009 9:43 am

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Originally Posted by PrairieSushi (Post 7951914)
The BBC has a shot of a UK soccer ground with a line of yellow separating the fans:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...07937485-1.jpg

I've seen a few people led away for rowdiness at hockey & lacrosse games ... but it's usually by two cops - never seen the need for an army of them yet.

Cop or even "police officer" seem to be the generic terms ...

thats probably because of several things. 1. there is a real likelihood they will be shot or tasered indiscriminately if they do not comply, and they know they will have no recourse if this does happen. 2. there is only ever one or two of them, not hundreds if not thousands. 3. they are generally decent people who have got a bit carried away, not out and out hooligans intent on doing nothing but fight as they have been doing for the past 20yrs.

comparing hockey and lacrosse games with premiership football regarding trouble is like comparing two 89yr olds shagging to two 20yr olds. not much is going on in the first instance, and if it does its going to be slow, laborious and no one will want to watch it. compared to the other scenario where it will be fast, furious and with a crowd who all want to get involved.

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 9:43 am

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Originally Posted by rae (Post 7951916)
and now you are using fershore! there is no helping you.

language can be powerful, these kinds of derogatory remarks/insults never bothered me too much, its a part of the job and you learn to accept it. however, there is a time and a place where quite rightly it should not be tolerated. if this kind of remark was thrown in my direction at a large family orientated event for instance, i should imagine there would be a certain expectation that i address it. ironically these very same people that may expect this, the respectable middle class, were often the worse for it. i always got far more respect from a thief than i did a speeding motorist in his BMW.

I've never really dealt with the police and am far too cowardly to call them the filth to their faces. Though I might use it as banter with people I knew - a bit like, "rae's in the filth, why don't you ask him if you can shoot bears legally"

I know when I use it it's an affectation designed to shock the people I'm with (to this day my parents are appalled). Just that sometimes I now say it in polite company by accident... oops!

rae Sep 21st 2009 9:46 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7951930)
I've never really dealt with the police and am far too cowardly to call them the filth to their faces. Though I might use it as banter with people I knew - a bit like, "rae's in the filth, why don't you ask him if you can shoot bears legally"

I know when I use it it's an affectation designed to shock the people I'm with (to this day my parents are appalled). Just that sometimes I now say it in polite company by accident... oops!

i doubt anyone will be really arsed, you may have started something though! i'll let you know if it gets this far east. no one has called me dibble, 5-o or the feds yet. salford shite was far cooler.

PrairieSushi Sep 21st 2009 9:48 am

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Originally Posted by rae (Post 7951929)
slow, laborious and no one will want to watch it.

Certainly sums up soccer for me :p

Kate2112 Sep 21st 2009 9:50 am

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The only people I have ever heard using this expression were wannabe gangstas in the UK :rolleyes:

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 9:51 am

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Originally Posted by rae (Post 7951937)
i doubt anyone will be really arsed, you may have started something though! i'll let you know if it gets this far east. no one has called me dibble, 5-o or the feds yet. salford shite was far cooler.

I know nobody is really arsed - it's a bit like saying twat to a nun.

I don't think it will catch on here anyways - there is (as you say) something quite british about it. dibble though - hmmm; 'yes darling, i know we're late, but dibble here is giving me a ticket instead of catching real criminals' - it could catch on;)

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 9:52 am

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Originally Posted by Kate2112 (Post 7951941)
The only people I have ever heard using this expression were wannabe gangstas in the UK :rolleyes:

You know many of those do you - or do you really mean that you've seen Ali G on TV?

Kate2112 Sep 21st 2009 9:57 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7951948)
You know many of those do you - or do you really mean that you've seen Ali G on TV?

I wouldnt claim to "know" them but I have certainly met them.

Oink Sep 21st 2009 9:59 am

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I usually use the classic; the fuzz.

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 9:59 am

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Originally Posted by Kate2112 (Post 7951959)
I wouldnt claim to "know" them but I have certainly met them.

Fair enough - I don't know any.

Oink Sep 21st 2009 10:02 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7951905)
For sure, I confess that I started using it for it's shock value back in my early twenties. Unfortunately (or not depending on your pov) I'm now stuck with it and it's the first thing I think of when I see the police. But, like what happens when you swear all the time, the word loses a certain amount of it's power eventually.

Edit to add: And what is po po?

In England, it was just the OB.

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 7951973)
In England, it was just the OB.

OB? What's that? Am I going to kick myself when you tell me:p

Edit: Hahaha - yes, don't bother answering. D'oh!

Kate2112 Sep 21st 2009 10:05 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7951982)
OB? What's that? Am I going to kick myself when you tell me:p

Edit: Hahaha - yes, don't bother answering. D'oh!

Old Bill

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 10:07 am

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Originally Posted by Kate2112 (Post 7951983)
Old Bill

Yes - was just a bit slow getting there.

The4BellsLondon Sep 21st 2009 10:22 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7951991)
Yes - was just a bit slow getting there.

Having a senior moment there love??

Simon Legree Sep 21st 2009 10:26 am

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Originally Posted by Kate2112 (Post 7951983)
Old Bill

They were always Peelers or Rozzers when I was a kid.

rae Sep 21st 2009 10:57 am

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Originally Posted by Simon Legree (Post 7952029)
They were always Peelers or Rozzers when I was a kid.

these and the filth and old bill seem to be pretty much southern terms, i've some friends i work with from the met and that is how they refer to themselves in war stories and the like. never really heard northern officers/customers use rozzer, OB or the filth.

Butch Cassidy Sep 21st 2009 11:03 am

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Oddly my OH has an a very endearing term for Calgary Police engaged in a particular Activity. That term is Bastards, karma for the first person who guess the activity.

One of UK friends has a much better term for the Majority of Calgary Police (and quite a few other Calgary Residents actually):- Fat Forkers ;)

rae Sep 21st 2009 11:07 am

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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy (Post 7952108)
Oddly my OH has an a very endearing term for Calgary Police engaged in a particular Activity. That term is Bastards, karma for the first person who guess the activity.

One of UK friends has a much better term for the Majority of Calgary Police (and quite a few other Calgary Residents actually):- Fat Forkers ;)

laser speed enforcement?

Butch Cassidy Sep 21st 2009 11:08 am

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Originally Posted by rae (Post 7952118)
laser speed enforcement?

Close enough :thumbup:

rae Sep 21st 2009 11:10 am

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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy (Post 7952123)
Close enough :thumbup:

close? just speed traps in general then?

Butch Cassidy Sep 21st 2009 11:12 am

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Originally Posted by rae (Post 7952127)
close? just speed traps in general then?

Exactly, Hiding up trees is the best I've seen them do

Oink Sep 21st 2009 11:14 am

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Originally Posted by rae (Post 7952090)
these and the filth and old bill seem to be pretty much southern terms, i've some friends i work with from the met and that is how they refer to themselves in war stories and the like. never really heard northern officers/customers use rozzer, OB or the filth.

The filth was a bit too 1970s Bermondsey gangster. OB was way more common, that and the 'Charlies', rhymes with Charlie Briggs, etc, but then I lived down safff.

mandymoochops Sep 21st 2009 11:14 am

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I have to admit when my oldest daughter was 15 or so - her and her wannabe gangster buddies would refer to them as "the feds"! :rolleyes:

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 11:16 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 7952143)
The filth was a bit too 1970s Bermondsey gangster. OB was way more common, that and the 'Charlies', rhymes with Charlie Briggs, etc, but then I lived down safff.

On TV, I think I heard it first on 'The Bill'. But having watched the sweeney recently, it is definitely of 70's vintage.

rae Sep 21st 2009 11:17 am

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Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7952144)
I have to admit when my oldest daughter was 15 or so - her and her wannabe gangster buddies would refer to them as "the feds"! :rolleyes:

yes definitely a white wannabe term, never heard it used apart from dealing with drunken teens from decent backgrounds.

triumphguy Sep 21st 2009 11:18 am

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Butch, apart from your OH, who is obviously innocent:rolleyes:, IMO If you get caught in a speed trap in the city you deserve it!;)

There's certain fishing holes that the police always use. You rarely get caught by a patrol car.

It's not worth speeding in the city either. All you do is get to the next traffic light more quickly and have to wait longer.

Now on my bike outside the city........

hehehe!:rofl:

rae Sep 21st 2009 11:19 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7952147)
On TV, I think I heard it first on 'The Bill'. But having watched the sweeney recently, it is definitely of 70's vintage.

never heard of 'charlies'

sweeney = "I'VE NOT HAD MY BREAKFAST" classic, never managed to fit it in though.

Steve_P Sep 21st 2009 11:21 am

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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy (Post 7952108)
Oddly my OH has an a very endearing term for Calgary Police engaged in a particular Activity. That term is Bastards, karma for the first person who guess the activity.

Radar traps, or quite possibly multinova radar ticket in the mail stuff.

Sally Redux Sep 21st 2009 11:21 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7952147)
On TV, I think I heard it first on 'The Bill'. But having watched the sweeney recently, it is definitely of 70's vintage.

Yeah I came out with it the other day to my own surprise, "Lot of filth around today" I think it came from the Sweeney :lol:

rae Sep 21st 2009 11:22 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7952151)
Butch, apart from your OH, who is obviously innocent:rolleyes:, IMO If you get caught in a speed trap in the city you deserve it!;)

There's certain fishing holes that the police always use. You rarely get caught by a patrol car.

It's not worth speeding in the city either. All you do is get to the next traffic light more quickly and have to wait longer.

Now on my bike outside the city........

hehehe!:rofl:

did you hear the news recently in Edmonton that due to obvious financial restraints at the moment the police are potentially facing a severe budget shortfall. to combat this some brightspark has proposed more budget for more laser traps and give the increased revenue to the cops.

i know north americans don't get irony, but come on, giving the cops more money to catch people so they can have more money to catch people. COME ON!!!

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2009 11:22 am

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Originally Posted by rae (Post 7952153)
never heard of 'charlies'

sweeney = "I'VE NOT HAD MY BREAKFAST" classic, never managed to fit it in though.

Being a copper in the 70's must have been awesome if it was anything like the sweeney.

Edit: ffs - that's the second ism i've used on this thread - must get a grip!

Butch Cassidy Sep 21st 2009 11:27 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7952151)
Butch, apart from your OH, who is obviously innocent:rolleyes:, IMO If you get caught in a speed trap in the city you deserve it!;)

There's certain fishing holes that the police always use. You rarely get caught by a patrol car.

It's not worth speeding in the city either. All you do is get to the next traffic light more quickly and have to wait longer.

Now on my bike outside the city........

hehehe!:rofl:

LOL, even when she gets caught, its MY fault somehow. (Even when I'm not in the car :confused:).


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