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GavinR Feb 4th 2013 12:10 pm

Even fewer standards
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...hift-dead.html

5% or thereabouts, and I bet many of those are Mustangs and the like. Probably won't be long before manufacturers stop offering it as an option.

Piff Poff Feb 4th 2013 12:19 pm

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by GavinR (Post 10525404)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...hift-dead.html

5% or thereabouts, and I bet many of those are Mustangs and the like. Probably won't be long before manufacturers stop offering it as an option.

Which would be really sad:thumbdown:

orly Feb 4th 2013 1:17 pm

Re: Even fewer standards
 
Aren't they cheaper to buy by a reasonably significant amount?

When I buy a car for myself it'll be a manual. Until then sharing an automatic with the wife.

GavinR Feb 4th 2013 3:55 pm

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They generally aren't as easy to sell though when the time comes, as so many people don't want them.

haggis88 Feb 4th 2013 4:04 pm

Re: Even fewer standards
 
hate the fact i couldn't get the Ridgeline in a manual

its funny that here you can pass a test in an automatic and then be let loose to drive whatever you want!

i've never driven a manual left-hooker, but really want to try to see what i'd be like adapting to it!

mandymoochops Feb 4th 2013 6:22 pm

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by haggis88 (Post 10525589)
hate the fact i couldn't get the Ridgeline in a manual

its funny that here you can pass a test in an automatic and then be let loose to drive whatever you want!

i've never driven a manual left-hooker, but really want to try to see what i'd be like adapting to it!

It's actually very bloody easy! It was more difficult remembering which side of the road to be on, the gear changing is as natural as a rhd!

dbd33 Feb 4th 2013 11:25 pm

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Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 10525696)
It's actually very bloody easy! It was more difficult remembering which side of the road to be on, the gear changing is as natural as a rhd!

Obviously, I can work a lhd car but it's not natural as, for a right handed person, this configuration puts the phone/coffee/cigarette in the same hand as is needed to change gear. I once had a very nasty mishap when changing gear on the wrong side, somehow hot fluid gushed from my hand into my shorts. I'm sure I could have managed had I not had to move everything from one hand to the other.

Piff Poff Feb 5th 2013 2:54 am

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by haggis88 (Post 10525589)
hate the fact i couldn't get the Ridgeline in a manual

its funny that here you can pass a test in an automatic and then be let loose to drive whatever you want!

i've never driven a manual left-hooker, but really want to try to see what i'd be like adapting to it!

Once you've crashed your knuckles into the door a couple of times you figure it out. We used to drive left hookers in the UK, no problems adapting, you just do it:thumbup:

cheeky_monkey Feb 5th 2013 6:29 am

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by orly (Post 10525460)
Aren't they cheaper to buy by a reasonably significant amount?

When I buy a car for myself it'll be a manual. Until then sharing an automatic with the wife.

Yes i'm looking at buying a new Audi and the manual version is nearly $3k cheaper than the automatic..cant get a diesel for love nor money though..even BMW which offered a 335 diesel up to 2011 have now ceased to offer a diesel engine..bummer

iaink Feb 5th 2013 6:54 am

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10526965)
Yes i'm looking at buying a new Audi and the manual version is nearly $3k cheaper than the automatic..cant get a diesel for love nor money though..even BMW which offered a 335 diesel up to 2011 have now ceased to offer a diesel engine..bummer

Mazda are allegedely bringing their skyactve diesel over later this year:thumbup:

Didnt realise BMW had dropped the oilburners.


I suppose the realities now are that automatics are as efficient and responsive as manual boxes, sometimes more so. Its just not as ingrained here to learn to drive stick as it is elsewhere. I guess in the UK its driven mainly by most cars having much smaller engines and automatics traditionally being the expensive option. Im guessing that small cars with <2.0l engines make up the majority of the 5% rather than pony cars.

We have one stick and one auto, I prefer the engagement of shifting my own gears, but on long roadtrips there is a lot to be said for just shifting into Drive too.

cheeky_monkey Feb 5th 2013 7:01 am

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10527028)
Mazda are allegedely bringing their skyactve diesel over later this year:thumbup:

Didnt realise BMW had dropped the oilburners.


I suppose the realities now are that automatics are as efficient and responsive as manual boxes, sometimes more so. Its just not as ingrained here to learn to drive stick as it is elsewhere. I guess in the UK its driven mainly by most cars having much smaller engines and automatics traditionally being the expensive option. Im guessing that small cars with <2.0l engines make up the majority of the 5% rather than pony cars.

We have one stick and one auto, I prefer the engagement of shifting my own gears, but on long roadtrips there is a lot to be said for just shifting into Drive too.

i was watching a review of the new golf mark 7 that is on sale in the UK and the new 1.6 TDI engine can do apparently 88 mpg.

iaink Feb 5th 2013 7:06 am

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Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10527044)
i was watching a review of the new golf mark 7 that is on sale in the UK and the new 1.6 TDI engine can do apparently 88 mpg.

Its pretty bizarre that its emission rules that prevent diesel availability in North America. Lower NoX levels or something. Never mind the fact that they get better mileage and have lower CO2 levels.

Jingsamichty Feb 5th 2013 7:06 am

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10527028)
We have one stick and one auto, I prefer the engagement of shifting my own gears, but on long roadtrips there is a lot to be said for just shifting into Drive too.

On long road trips it scarcely matters. Inching your way through city traffic is when an auto makes sense.

iaink Feb 5th 2013 7:08 am

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 10527058)
On long road trips it scarcely matters. Inching your way through city traffic is when an auto makes sense.

Right, I should probably clarify that the only time I have to inch through city traffic is when we are on long road trips.... Otherwise a traffic jam for me is getting stuck at the lights.

Jingsamichty Feb 5th 2013 7:09 am

Re: Even fewer standards
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10527061)
Right, I should probably clarify that the only time I have to inch through city traffic is when we are on long road trips.... Otherwise a traffic jam for me is getting stuck at the lights.

Do you sit with your foot on the brake at lights, or do you slip it into N?


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